watertown1978

Hahaha BO nut riders are sooo funny. What people fail to understand is that the money will take forever to get into the system and even more ironic...the market will have started to pick itself up ON ITS own by the time the money hits.... and OMG BO WAS Right! I can see it now. Hell Ive seen people already claim that the new money already created several thousand jobs in his area.... yet the money has not even made it out the door... how can that be?? BO is just anohter

aeor...at the rate its going you wont be able to smoke even outside either.

[quote who="foot69" reply="10" id="2085118"]you people complain about every one getting health care well before Regan came along and busted the unions most people got health care though their union jobs so If you want to not pay national health care then support unions after all they are suppose to be there to fight for workers right's and that's not a bad thing no matter what you say[/quote] O please. Most unions ( I di

[quote who="the_Peoples_Party" reply="9" id="2085073"]Speaking of the government. Since a lot of people have spending issues and a lot of people have debt issues how do we expect people that we elect into Congress to be any different then the people that they represent? Our government should mirror what the people do. Don't get me wrong not every one has spending issues. I for one am currently debt free, but that doesn't mean I am cheap/stingy. I do understa

how about cut the growth of gov... get people off the gov tetts.... and bam... instant savings

[quote who="Island Dog" reply="4" id="2084781"] It just creeps me out because any time I see pictures of Soviet Union, Maoist China, Nazi Germany, Cuba and now Venezuala I see their great leaders hanging in every home. I am willing to bet there is a good percentage of Obama supporters who do in fact have his picture hanging somewhere in their house. [/quote] along with plates... coins... ect ect it creepy.

[/quote][quote who="MasonM" reply="4" id="2084556"] Still it is an example of a group of individuals being able to harm others without their consent. Here we disagree completely. If you knowingly walk into a place such as a bar where you know that people will be smoking, and you believe that smoke will harm you, then you make the choice to do harm to yourself. That's the point I have been trying to make all along. Nobody is ever forced to walk into a bar or any other place of busine

[quote who="Nitro Cruiser" reply="3" id="2084571"] White House Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag said the follwoing: "This is last year's business. We want to just move on. Let's get this bill done, get it into law and move forward," Funny, I recall the Democrats didn't want to pass the omnibus spending bill last year, so they pushed it until now. What changed? How much added pork (both R & D) was added because they knew Obama wouldn't v

Charles I hear that BO wanted his name removed off the earmark (s) that were in this bill so no one would know exactly who wrote them :)

Foot69 ill give you the benifit of the doubt and think your just sick of politics. MY fear is that this country is going to socailism so fast people dont realize it. The problem is the media and for the most part the general public cant seem to look at the big picture. If you put all the peices together.... you will see we are now in the very fast lane with no cars ahead of us. Is there someone out ? I am sure there is ...but here is the problem:

[quote who="CharlesCS" reply="4" id="2073083"]Hmm, no defense towards Obama? Strange. [/quote] o they are still out there... but the numbers a growing slim by the day... then there still are the nut riders that cant see though the BS

O hes gonna do more than tax the rich my friend if he is going to follow though with this cutting of the defisit... hes gonna tax the shit out of the middle class too.... actually everyone working is gonna get taxed to hell. Only way he can do it. O and this "pork" bill they passed had alot of stuff that will be in the budget for years to come... so its not like all that money is just a one time thing....

well damn god forbid they actually cut spending and not raise taxes.... i mean... you know damn well that 250.000 mark will get lowered and most of the working class is gonna get hit .... just so we can hope and change and provide "entitlement" garbage to people that should not get it

[quote who="Zubaz" reply="5" id="2069271"] O really... and what about people that eat un healthy? what about people that get cancer... what about people that pop out kids every year? Are you going to bad fast food? cheetos? Kick people out of your state that has terminal deseases?New York City has made trans-fat illegal. And I'm OK with that too. 1) I'm not in NYC, and 2) I'm tring to cut back too. You know what though . . I don't really care about NYC. That

[quote who="JillUser" reply="4" id="2069266"]The way I see it, the government wants to be able to keep making money off from smokers but wants to take away the right of private business owners to do the same. [/quote] BINGO! Jill Id hug ya for finally seeing the real reason why smoking is the new deamon! Its not because they want to "help" others and live a healthier lifestyle... its just a front for the real reason WHY they are doing it whic

[quote who="Zubaz" reply="1" id="2069145"]I joined the same Facebook group with some of the same issues that JillUser expressed. The further away a government is from my position in society the more I want them to stay the hell out of my live. I'm willing to put up with more intrusion at the city level than at the federal. That's how I roll. I believe that smoking costs the gov't money in health care. That's my money. If they can pass a law that s

[quote who="aeortar" reply="4" id="2069068"]So presumably companies will think twice before firing employees? if so then it should prove useful. Companies are often too quick to fire their staff without exploring alternative means. It's probably not something you'd want to have around once things get better though (since then a lot more (proportionately) of redundancies would be due to the employees fault rather than the employer just deciding they need to cut costs.[/quote]what its bad to le

TAX TAX TAX! Tax some more! Why live on what you have but instead demand even MORE MONEY!

[quote who="zorven" reply="2" id="2069020"]No we are not union. If a union organized here and that caused increased costs we would not survive.[/quote] Well if you got a decent union I guess You could do okay as long as the union has some sense.My local one here that I work for is half way decent ( okay maybe its more us workers than the union itself ) we rather take pay freezes over 5 years and let the new hires come in at a decent wage and at the same t

get used to it. The current politicans that have power are very very anit buesness... after all they want the drones to live off the Gov... so if they cant directly shut you down, they will break ya so you close shop...and boom... they got more welfare people living off them... aint it great? BTW are you a union job? if not... be ready for a less of a % of workers needed to vote in a union. You think you had your hands full now... just wait till ...what... only a 1/3 of

[quote who="kingbee" reply="17" id="2068684"]jeez, just as i was recovering from the shock of discovering a choir of self-proclaimed conservatives belting out an updated "big rock candy mountain" ("there'll be pie in the sky and free wifi") while envisioning and advocating government not merely licensing but OPERATING a full-on public communications network and was hoping to add to the fun, i saw this: Obama hates me because I am white followed by this:

[quote who="Mumblefratz" reply="10" id="2068787"] The road he is going down is "giving" people stuff that they are not entitled to off the backs of us that bust our behinds daily to make a living.Hmm ... entitled. Great word. Wonder what you mean by it though? I assume that when people use the word "entitled" or it's more common form "entitlement" that they're essentially speaking about things like welfare, social security and medicare. Basically it's folks that are still pissed off

[quote who="foreverserenity" reply="8" id="2068537"] I think you just view it differently because this is a President that YOU stand behind. Perspective makes a difference. No disagreement there! Where is the hope now? Maybe we can help him find it? Or refer him for some motivational pick me up since he has probably realised that there will be hell to pay if he doesn't deliver..?[/quote] As long as Bo support

[quote who="taltamir" reply="3" id="2064807"]What we DESPERATELY need is massive spending CUTS. the united states was a shining beacon of technology and freedom, leading the world, with seemingly infiniate resources... the rest of the world cought up... and the united states pertended it didn't and kept extravagantly spending, digging itself deeper and deeper into dept. We can't keep pretending, but that is exactly what they are doing, they are pretending we have infinite money, an

[quote who="taltamir" reply="1" id="2064788"] So if I'm reading this right, spending money on energy efficiency, security personel, waste disposal, flood defences, fighting health epidemics, education, and fire services is all 'pork'?! In that case, give me all the pork I can eat! 1. Energy efficiency - spending money on it will slightly decrease greenhouse emissions at the cost of harming the economy. Humanity accounts of 3% of the total global carbon emissions. Carbon Dioxide is h