watertown1978

[quote who="EL-DUDERINO" reply="16" id="1937678"] Most of us wouldn't know what the middle class was without the dedication of unions. I don't think anyone here is denying the importance that unions had to creating decent working environments and livable wages in this country. The problem is that some unions today are actually killing businesses and how exactly does that help the employees? If GM goes out of business is that going to help the workers? No, but is th

[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="15" id="1937655"]So, it's screw the 2 million plus spinoff jobs just to kill UAW, eh? Most of us wouldn't know what the middle class was without the dedication of unions.[/quote] Pftttt yeah I wouldnt mind if the unions actually cared besides lining pockets. Why cant auto maker unions do what the airline unions do? if the company is in trouble...hey lets cut back a bit so we all can keep the jobs, I mean after all... who needs a woody a

someone posted this on another fourm and ill share its really eye opening: Labor cost per hour, wages and benefits for hourly workers, 2006. Ford: $70.51 ($141,020 per year) GM: $73.26 ($146,520 per year) Chrysler: $75.86 ($151,720 per year) Toyota, Honda, Nissan (in U.S.): $48.00 ($96,000 per year) According to AAUP and IES, the average annual compensation for a college professor in 2006 was $92,973 (average salary nationally of

[quote who="CharlesCS" reply="9" id="1937313"] Americans make terrible cars. Seriously cacto, why the need to insult something American when most here are agreeing with you and happen to be Americans? Your comment could have gone without the need to say we suck at making cars. Then you wonder why some here come down hard on you when in a debate.[/quote] I think US cars are good. I have a chevy mali and happy with it... the problem is that parts cost alot. I al

[quote who="cactoblasta" reply="6" id="1937157"]I say they should let them close. Americans make terrible cars. Only Ford has halfway decent models, and even then that's mostly from their European outfits. Let them go and then everyone can enjoy the benefits of good, reliable Asian and Euro cars.[/quote] The problem is not that the auto makers CANT make good cars.... Look at the SUVs. They lived off those cars for god knows how long. So it IS possible for the

[quote who="kryo" reply="4" id="1936857"]Unions have actually caused jobs to be lost in this area. A nearby plant was having trouble, and made an offer to the workers: if you guys take a cut, we'll take a cut, and we can muddle on through the downturn together. The union outright refused, and as a result the company started shipping the equipment to Mexico while the workers were still picketing, so that they could afford to stay in business.[/quote] See i have been on b

I say get rid of the union for they helped alot to drive up costs of making the autos to the point that for the car is costed to much

You know what is funny we tried to get into some housing based on income long time ago ( when our 2 kids were first diagnosed disabled and such ) and they told me flat out that there was not enough funding and that there was a waiting list a mile long. They then went on and told me that if I knew of any minorities at my place of work that needed help to give them thier number and they would be happy to help... I was like wth! Anyways I have to disagree with the statemen