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Fair & Balanced Reporting : David Brooks Considers Sarah Palin Fatal Cancer of the Republican Party

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Fair & Balanced Reporting : David Brooks Considers Sarah Palin Fatal Cancer of the Republican Party

Palin Represents ‘Fatal Cancer’ to GOP, Top Conservative Pundit Says

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/08/palin-represents-%e2%80%98fatal-cancer%e2%80%99-to-gop-conservative-says/
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FrankenbarbieConservative New York Times columnist David Brooks, who has expressed doubts about Sarah Palin's readiness to serve as vice president, said this week the Alaska governor represents a fatal cancer to the Republican Party

From CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand

(CNN) – Conservative New York Times columnist David Brooks, who has expressed doubts about Sarah Palin’s readiness to serve as vice president, said this week the Alaska governor “represents a fatal cancer to the Republican Party.”

Brooks praised Palin’s debate performance and called her a natural political talent, but told a New York audience Monday that “experience matters”: “Do I think she’s ready to be president or vice president? No, she’s not even close to that,” he said.

“…Reagan had an immense faith in the power of ideas,” he also said, in remarks first reported by the Huffington Post. “But there has been a counter, more populist tradition, which is not only to scorn liberal ideas, but to scorn ideas entirely. And I'm afraid that Sarah Palin has those prejudices. I think President Bush has those prejudices."

 

Other prominent conservatives, including George Will and David Frum, have publicly questioned Palin's readiness to be vice president. Prominent conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, an early supporter, said late last month that recent interviews have shown the Alaska governor is "out of her league" and should leave the GOP presidential ticket for the good of the party.

Brooks himself has also written skeptically about Palin. "Sarah Palin has many virtues," he wrote in a recent column. "If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she'd be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness."

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Reply #126 from WinCustomize Forums Top

It was a UNANIMOUS finding from a BI-PARTISAN commission.  Good luck trying to spin that as "Obama's people are trying to get us!"

Reply #127 from JoeUser Forums Top

#57: Wow...if there was ever a demonstration of racist, bigotted, uninformed/ignorant hate and fear mongering...that was it.

There's more.  Enjoy.

 

Galactic Civilizations IV
Reply #128 from WinCustomize Forums Top



Now that McCain has realized that the angry mob mentality of his rally crowds is hurting him, when he tries to tame the crowds, he actually got booed for stating that Obama is a "decent person" and booed again for saying they need to be respectful.

Reply #129 from WinCustomize Forums Top

it is heartwarming to see such citizen journos like yourselves Bebi + Chonino getting this ugliness out in the open for awareness + discussion - the power of the internet is truly being felt in this election, even tho I was councilled that this post was misplaced in the 'Internet' section & would be more appropo in 'Politics'...whatevs - the video of that old bag at the rally today advising Senator McCain Senator Obama made her nervis cuz he is an 'Arab' & therefore, she cannot trust him...omg...lol;that video is going viral, you know it and it does make citizens of the world squirm seeing that kind of bigotry/racism put to electoral use....when 'that' is your 'base', no wonder the US is in the mess it is in today if that is who Dubya had to answer to...

Reply #130 from WinCustomize Forums Top

...yeah Starks...they don't like facts getting in the way of their diatribes lol...it must be stated & acknowledged Starks how well informed you are there down under;it warmed my heart to hear of your diligent & thorough journos having debate & public feedback on the Senator McCain campaign bus road rage incident in regard to his addressing his wife as a troll and a C_nt after her teasing him for his hair loss....in front of the embedded media no less...

Yep, we in Australia are fairly well informed, particularly with regard to this US Presidential election.  Like Jafo said earlier, if the American people see fit to inflict themselves with John McCain and he turns out to be an arsehole (to which there seems very little doubt he is/will be), we get the same piles... as does the rest of the world. So yeah, it is relevant to me/us.

I must state, however, that I am not a fan of Fox or any other highly commercialised news service... think it might have something to do with over-sensationalising. over-dramatising and agenda driven biased reporting.  No, if I want more factual, unsensationalised news reporting which tends to be unbiased/'more fair/balanced, I turn to the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Commision) news service.  While the ABC news presenters tend to be more dour, even boring to some, I find the presentation of news to be more factual, credible and certainly more palatable.  One thing that really pisses me off with commercialised TV news presentation is when one presenter will start a story and another chimes in part way through to add 'that' element of drama and sensationalism - our commercial TV news services do it all the time/far too frequently - thus my preference for ABC news/current affair programs.

Ah yes, the good old ABC... owned by the people and run by the people for the people, not by corporate entities with vested interests.  Oh, and the talkback program that discussed the McCain tour bus - C word incident was on ABC radio, which tends to attract a more intelligent and reasoning audience than (most) commecial stations... and thus, callers tend to be less inclined to entertain sensationalisms and/or bullshit, less likely spew forth bullshit just to be heard on national radio.

Oh how very sad it is, that vested interests have turned our medis outlets into virtual circuses, with every type of clown imaginable seeking his/her few moments of fame and glory.  Take for instance the clip Night train posted earlier @ #83 (sorry FF won't let me copy/paste it)... while it may have been amusing it did very little to lend itself to the facts behind Sarah Palin's dubious record.  Um, perhaps this sensationalist journalism is the reason many foreigners are more/better informed on the US Presidential race/election than much of North America's voting public... they're hearing fragments of truth all raveled up with some miguided idea that news items should be edge of the seat, soap opera-like entertainment.

Reply #131 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Yep, we in Australia are fairly well informed, particularly with regard to this US Presidential election. Like Jafo said earlier, if the American people see fit to inflict themselves with John McCain and he turns out to be an arsehole (to which there seems very little doubt he is/will be), we get the same piles... as does the rest of the world
no truer words...lol

I must state, however, that I am not a fan of Fox or any other highly commercialised news service... think it might have something to do with over-sensationalising
...again, right on the money...that is why in North America, Fox 'Noise' is considered a pariah amoungst journalists and the educated, professional public due to its propaganda + 'preaching to the choir' Neo-Con agenda...I mean, when Palin complains that the dreaded 'Main Stream Media', which represents American Broadcasting Corp., NBC News, Columbia Broadcasting Corp., MSNBC, CNN, the British Broadcasting Corp., Canadian Broadcasting Corp., the New York Times, the LA Times etc., and the only 'news' organization that gets her is Fox and treats her 'fairly', well you know she is being given the kid glove treatment by Fox to appeal to a very niche audience ....and yeah, our Canadian Broadcasting Corp. carries snippets from your ABC, and yeah, they are right on...truly world class news gathering organizations....

Reply #132 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Now that McCain has realized that the angry mob mentality of his rally crowds is hurting him, when he tries to tame the crowds, he actually got booed for stating that Obama is a "decent person" and booed again for saying they need to be respectful.

McCain should have begun his campain with his latter thinking... a lot of nastiness all round would have been avoided.

Sadly, though, he did not and the damage is done

Reply #133 from WinCustomize Forums Top



MCCAIN: "Uh, I, I just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don't have much of a vision for the future or you're not ready to articulate it."

McCain's own words [The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, 2/21/2000].

And now, his own campaign is producing 100% of negative attacks ads...irony? (about 34% of Obama's are negative)

Reply #134 from WinCustomize Forums Top

McCain's constant media bombardment of lies.

Sending Palin to do all the "pitbull" attacks of fomenting the ignorant into lynch mob frenzy.

 

These actions under the personal direction of McCain vastly outweight his slight "mea culpa" today.  If he wants to impress me, he needs to go back to the campaign he said he would run, by actions as well as words.

It's no coincidence that his numbers are falling the nastier his attack dogs get.

 

Reply #135 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Alan Colmes

Some interesting reads from the intellectual giants of Fox News' audience e-mailed to the network's lone liberal who kindly shares these gems ;

From: DL
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:58 PM
To: Alan
Subject: Admit it…

Alan,
Why don’t you just admit it, and do it on TV so we can get it over with. You hate America, you, like Obama want to see us lose the war, and you want to see Obama put his turbin back on and turn this country into a terrorist state where people like you who bow down to popularity instead of standing up for freedom survive. People like you, radical far left liberals make me and REAL AMERICANS sick. I am sure you are a real hero in some of the worlds hot nices places like Russia, China, Iran, Syria, North Korea, places that are laughing at America and thanking people like you for putting Obama on a pedestal and opening the door for everything that we have fought for years to keep out of America to come walking in.
It’s a good thing this is the 20th Century, they used to shoot traitors on site!!

Yours Truly
An American Vet who Proudly Wears his flag pin and stands and salutes the flag when it goes by

From: Linda
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:49 PM
To: Alan
Subject: Hannity

Dont you wish you were Hannity, so people would like you?

From: Caleb
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:51 PM
To: Alan
Subject: question
Dear Dillhole,
I’m just wondering how many times you had ass whipped as a kid. How many wedgies did you get on a daily basis, you ignorant coward. Grow some balls, you neutered cat. I sit at home and imagine that your whole bit MUST be an act. What intellectual midget can’t see the truth about Obama, and worse yet makes excuses for a man who likes spending time with shimmering jewels of anarchistic terrorists like Ayers. You have got to be getting paid to act a fool. Please tell me it’s just an act, because if it isn’t, wouldn’t you just be better off in a communist or socialistic country

Reply #136 from WinCustomize Forums Top

and for more laughs

Bill Kristol is the Man Behind Genius "Sarah Palin as VP" Concept. . .William Kristol

George Packer knows Bill Kristol only too well. In a recent article, Packer sets out the Republican analyst and NYT writer's agenda in this election in three easy steps :

1. Have McCain take credit for the imminent bailout legislation and promise more tough, decisive leadership.
2. Liberate Sarah Palin to be herself: a conservative attack dog. “As one shrewd McCain supporter told me, ‘Every minute she spends not telling the American people something that makes them less well disposed to Obama is a minute wasted.’”
3. Accuse Obama of being too liberal. Again and again. And bring Rev. Wright back into the mix.

There's no doubt that the Alaskan pitbull has brought an interesting element to the election (as well as giving SNL their allotted year's worth of funnies. But how much can Kristol, who after all, is a commentator and political analyst, not a politician, sway the course of the election so much as to "handpick" the VP candidate for the GOP?

A key organizer and participant in the Palin meeting was Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, who can fairly lay claim to having “discovered” Palin for Washington political circles. Palin’s name appeared in fifty-seven Weekly Standard articles since the Juneau meeting—starting with a paean entitled “The Most Popular Governor” that ran right after the reception.
Kristol, in any event, was quick to press the campaign for the Palin candidacy with the party’s faithful. Taking a cue from the Straussian handbook, Kristol appeared on Fox News on June 30, 2008, confidently predicting that McCain would select Sarah Palin and as a public display of support, oil prices would miraculously fall.

Bill Kristol is the best opponent of Bill Kristol: he makes sure that his ties and accomplishments are always underplayed. Remember that Kristol is the same guy who praised President Bush's inaugural speech without revealing that he helped right it. Cramazing.

So essentially, Kristol is Keyser Söze: and the best trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he was just a politics commentator, not politics-maker.

 

Reply #137 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Some interesting reads from the intellectual giants of Fox New's audience e-mailed to the network's lone liberal who kindly shares these gems ;

Yup, that pretty much sums up my earlier comment about the kind of audience that's often attracted to the sensationalist TV news and current affairs programs run by networks such as Fox'.  While many are obviously not of this ilk, this element of ill-informed uneducated dimwits certainly do nothing to help all Americans avoid being 'tarred with the same brush'... because it is not the educated and rational who get published/on air, but rather this 'rotten egg' part of US society that the commercial networks see fit to promote and sensationalise to boost ratings

Worse still, it would be this radical 'no clue' element that'd be crying the loudest if they elected McCain/Palin to office and it all went wrong... and of course, Fox and the like will be there to record/air their irrational knee-jerk reactions/comments for posterity/all the World to see... wouldn't matter that their sick idea of 'entertainment value' would tarnish the image of millions  of rational and decent minded Americans on the 'World stage', purely and simply because it's sensational and jacks up the ratings/advertising revenues.

Jafo was right, piles are contagious when arseholes are in control.  Thing is, politicians are not the only ones Americans need to sort out.  There's plenty of corporate high flyers and media moguls who need a good swift kick in the bollocks to bring 'em back to earth as well... though I believe Fox is owned by Australian arsehole, Rupert Murdoch.  Never mind, he resides in the US now, and you have our full consent to kick him in the cobblers. ;P

Reply #138 from WinCustomize Forums Top

it amazes me how some of my best friends on this site and i are at polar opposites of the political spectrum. it's a good thing we live in america where we can have such views and not risk jail time.

Reply #139 from WinCustomize Forums Top

it amazes me how some of my best friends on this site and i are at polar opposites of the political spectrum. it's a good thing we live in america where we can have such views and not risk jail time.

This is the highlight of the whole thread! Well said.

Reply #141 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting steve-, reply 1

OMG... you did not just sit there and relate Obama to Hitler with the past that the Bush family has with Bush's grandfather laundering money and doing business with the Nazi's... downright unbelievable...maybe you should read this...


I didn't make the image. I said it was funny, and I could care what Bush's grandfather did as it's in the past. Nothing you can do about the past, not that 1 article is going to confirm anything for me. I care a bit more about the present, you know what I mean?

Tell that to that hockey mom bitch Palin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es5S1vSASmw

Reply #142 from JoeUser Forums Top

hockey mom bitch

I see the personal attacks are back ... and from WC'ers no less.

*sigh* used to be rules against this sort of thing. Great job guys ;)

Reply #143 from WinCustomize Forums Top

 

Calm down , I wasn't attacking you , or anyone here.

Reply #144 from JoeUser Forums Top

...again, right on the money...that is why in North America, Fox 'Noise' is considered a pariah amoungst journalists and the educated, professional public due to its propaganda

I'm pretty educated and a professional and look at Fox News as a pretty good news source with an conservative tilt to its commentary.

It is similar to CNN except CNN's commentary is liberal. 

MSNBC, by contrast, has left-wing tilted news and commentary.

Most people who hate Fox News I suspect don't watch it. It's a boogieman.

In a thread where people are talking about how awful McCain supporters are, it's amazing that no one sees the irony of a Obama supporter calling Palin a "hockey mom bitch". I think it demonstrates how people allow their ideologies to color their impressions of people they barely know.

Reply #145 from JoeUser Forums Top

Yes, she followed procedure in firing Monegan, and was within her right to do so, but the issue is that a contributing factor was personal interest (as the statute and report says) and that her family was in fact pressuring to get Wooten fired. She then denied any wrongdoing, violating the trust of the Alaskan people.

Whatever.

If someone pisses me off on WinCustomize, I reserve the right to ban them for any reason I want.

Is this an abuse of power? Probably. Is it illegal? No. Is it a violation of the "trust" of the community? No. I've banned plenty of people for no other reason than annoying me. Yet you guys are all still here.

People in power "abuse power". It's almost inevitable.  I supsect plenty of you screaming about Palin would have been defending a Hilary Clinton nominee despite her frequent firing of people who got in her way when she was first lady. Or supported Bill Clinton's violation of public trust on numerous occasions.  Or Obama using his power in the Illinois senate to get his friends and supporters choice government projects.

Many of you are alllowing your ideologies to color your opinions of individuals.

Reply #146 from JoeUser Forums Top

The media's obsessions change with the winds. Were you complaining equally when they were obsessing over Palin for weeks after her selection as VP? Or only now that the gimmick has failed and that we've all caught on?

The media's obsession with Palin consisted of blind hatred of her without even knowing anything. Within the first week of her nomination, she was subjected to press insuations that her child was actually her daughter's. We got plenty of coverage that her daughter is pregnant. She has been ridiculed on SNL multiple times (despite Biden saying equally to more ridiculous things in interviews at the same time and his son being indicted).

By contrast, the media's obsession with Obama has been a total love fest. His visit on the View included questions on how come he was so "sexy" (when McCain went on, he was asked if he might legalize slavery). Obama's ties to Acorn, his various gaffes and his history have been largely ignored by the media.

So yes, there have been media obsessions with both but the way those obsessessions have manifested themselves differs greatly.

Reply #147 from JoeUser Forums Top

Let's not compare apples to oranges here! The forces in Germany, Japan and S Korea were there in response to ongoing conflicts, and remained afterwards to make war reparations and establish security in those regions... now to maintain strategic bases offshore.

In Iraq, however, it was an uninvited invasionary force, sent there on a pack of lies. (WMD's????).... and now ( for fear of wholesale slaughter in Iraq and subsequent international condemnation) the US does not know how to extricate itself from something it had no business being involved in... Bush had an axe to grind and lied to the American people (the World) about Iraqi WMD's.

Are you suggesting that Germany and Japan invited US forces into their countries?

I supported the US invasion of Iraq. I don't like how the occupation of Iraq was handled in the pre-surge time but I was very much in favor of removing Saddam from power. It had nothing to do with whether he had WMDs or not. It had to do with Saddam's long term intent and his continuing violation of the 1991 cease fire agreement. Did I think that Iraq had stockpiles of chemical weapons? Sure. But did it materially affect my position one way or the other? No.

Similarly, I would have supported the US invasion of Hitler's Europe despite Germany having nothing to do with Pearl Harbor.  300,000 Americans died to help defeat Nazi Germany even though Nazi Germany was no imminent threat to the US.  In Iraq, we've lost a little over 3000 Americans in combat.

The US, 60+ years later, is still in Germany and Japan, using them as strategic bases.  In Korea, US forces are still engaged on the border of a country we are still technically at war with (they have a cease fire agreement).

 

 

Reply #148 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Are yu

Quoting Draginol, reply 21

The media's obsessions change with the winds. Were you complaining equally when they were obsessing over Palin for weeks after her selection as VP? Or only now that the gimmick has failed and that we've all caught on?


The media's obsession with Palin consisted of blind hatred of her without even knowing anything. Within the first week of her nomination, she was subjected to press insuations that her child was actually her daughter's. We got plenty of coverage that her daughter is pregnant. She has been ridiculed on SNL multiple times (despite Biden saying equally to more ridiculous things in interviews at the same time and his son being indicted).

By contrast, the media's obsession with Obama has been a total love fest. His visit on the View included questions on how come he was so "sexy" (when McCain went on, he was asked if he might legalize slavery). Obama's ties to Acorn, his various gaffes and his history have been largely ignored by the media.

So yes, there have been media obsessions with both but the way those obsessessions have manifested themselves differs greatly.

Untrue. I've heard the Muslim/terrorist connotation . the pastor at Obama's church , that whole Weather Underground crap even before Obama finished the Democratic primaries. Only now am I hearing about Palin's ties with Alaskin sepratists , her own church pastor .... Wow that big bad liberal media is on top of things as usual

Oh and Palin's inability to construct sentances when asked relatively softball questions by Katie Curic does not equal blind hatred. Her being a bitch on the campaign with her Obama rhetoric does not equal blind hatred. She's out of her depth , and the way I see it , she's simply a tool being used by the McCain camp to allow the campaign to be dirty without McCain himself actually having to do any of it, sort of a good cop bad cop. Only they're both bad cops

 

Reply #149 from JoeUser Forums Top

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, DJ.

But in the meantime, you should try to keep your hatred of those who don't share your ideology in check.

 

Reply #150 from WinCustomize Forums Top

But in the meantime, you should try to keep your hatred of those who don't share your ideology in check.

Quoted for irony.

 You and I may or may not share idelogies , do I hate you , no. 

I understand this is probably a JU cross-post , but seriously , do we have to be called idiots when we *don't* agree with the right wing's call on the relative merit's of Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin's respective personalities and campaigns?