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Fair & Balanced Reporting : David Brooks Considers Sarah Palin Fatal Cancer of the Republican Party

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Fair & Balanced Reporting : David Brooks Considers Sarah Palin Fatal Cancer of the Republican Party

Palin Represents ‘Fatal Cancer’ to GOP, Top Conservative Pundit Says

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/08/palin-represents-%e2%80%98fatal-cancer%e2%80%99-to-gop-conservative-says/
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FrankenbarbieConservative New York Times columnist David Brooks, who has expressed doubts about Sarah Palin's readiness to serve as vice president, said this week the Alaska governor represents a fatal cancer to the Republican Party

From CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand

(CNN) – Conservative New York Times columnist David Brooks, who has expressed doubts about Sarah Palin’s readiness to serve as vice president, said this week the Alaska governor “represents a fatal cancer to the Republican Party.”

Brooks praised Palin’s debate performance and called her a natural political talent, but told a New York audience Monday that “experience matters”: “Do I think she’s ready to be president or vice president? No, she’s not even close to that,” he said.

“…Reagan had an immense faith in the power of ideas,” he also said, in remarks first reported by the Huffington Post. “But there has been a counter, more populist tradition, which is not only to scorn liberal ideas, but to scorn ideas entirely. And I'm afraid that Sarah Palin has those prejudices. I think President Bush has those prejudices."

 

Other prominent conservatives, including George Will and David Frum, have publicly questioned Palin's readiness to be vice president. Prominent conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, an early supporter, said late last month that recent interviews have shown the Alaska governor is "out of her league" and should leave the GOP presidential ticket for the good of the party.

Brooks himself has also written skeptically about Palin. "Sarah Palin has many virtues," he wrote in a recent column. "If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she'd be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness."

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Reply #101 from JoeUser Forums Top

Night Train

Repubs are in a panic state right now. The more crap they spew, the further Mccain falls. Start talking real issues and you might feel better about yourselves.

You say that.   Then you say this?

Has anyone seen Palin's SAT scores yet?

What does Palin's SAT scores have to do with the issues?  Didn't you JUST SAY mentioning anything but the issues is CRAP?  So are you willing to admit you're talking crap yourself?  Do you happen to know Biden's SAT scores as well? 

Spoken by a (closet) liberal perhaps?  Because you ain't making any sense to this conservative. 

Besides........... let's see............. the first thing I saw on the news this morning was all about Troopergate in Alaska.  Issues?  And the Dems are NOT in a panic? 

 

 

Reply #102 from JoeUser Forums Top

IF Barack Obama had solid ties to terrorism, the Repubs wouldn't hesitate for a moment to sling his arse in jail.

Does not work that way.  Bill Ayers is not in jail after all, and he is the terrorist.  Having ties is not a crime (it shows a lack of good judgement, but is not a crime).  You need to learn more about the reality instead of buying all the hype.

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Reply #103 from WinCustomize Forums Top

What does Palin's SAT scores have to do with the issues?

Not a thing other than she is not bright enough to understand the issues.

and Biden is almost as much of a joke.

Reply #104 from JoeUser Forums Top

and Biden is almost as much of a joke.

More so - he does not have the excuse of inexperience.

Reply #105 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Night, reply 3

What does Palin's SAT scores have to do with the issues?

Not a thing other than she is not bright enough to understand the issues.

and Biden is almost as much of a joke.

How do you know how bright Palin is?

Reply #106 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Bebi, reply 21

Matter of fact I also say we stay the hell out of other countries business, we have our own problems to deal with.Tell that to the Bush/McCain adminstration that thinks we should stay in Iraq forever if "need be."

 

The United States is still in Germany, Japan, and Korea. Does that mean Roosevelt and Truman were horrible Presidents?

Reply #107 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Besides........... let's see............. the first thing I saw on the news this morning was all about Troopergate in Alaska. Issues? And the Dems are NOT in a panic?

That is a valid and relevant issue. It relates to ethics and abuse of power, and when she could possible be in a position as powerful as the VP, or perhaps even president, it's more than relevant. And something you all seem to be forgetting, that investigation started BEFORE she was named VP, and she in fact WELCOMED the investigation, and only after being named VP did she turn around and say/do the opposite.

Reply #108 from WinCustomize Forums Top

she isn't the vp, bebi. hopefully, she'll never leave alaska again after nov 4. she can stay up there and give tours at the ice & snow festival.

Reply #109 from WinCustomize Forums Top

The United States is still in Germany, Japan, and Korea

We are there with the respective host nation's consent.  With respect to Iraq we have approval from the UN and the current geovernment of Iraq.  Both want us out of Iraq at some point in the near future.  It will make no difference who is President,  when Iraq's government and our government reach an agreement for us to leave we will leave.  They can also as a sovereign nation tell us to get out and we would have to leave or risk being declared to be in an illegal war.

I don't think that are current positions in Germany, Japan and South Korea are comparable to our position in Iraq.  I also think our sending the US military to Iraq was misguided and of no genuine value to us.

Reply #110 from WinCustomize Forums Top

How do you know how bright Palin is?

Have you been paying attention? ;P

 

Anyone trying to rebuild the middle class will be seen as a socialist.  It's a nasty trap we are in.

Reply #111 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Have you been paying attention?



Anyone trying to rebuild the middle class will be seen as a socialist. It's a nasty trap we are in.

I pay quite a bit of attention. 

I know a lot of very smart people and many of them, most of them, would likely not make very effective public speakers and would stumble a great deal on any number of topics.

I interview people for jobs all the time and many of them are highly intelligent but cannot coherently speak about topics that they are familiar with let alone having to cram in a bunch of trivial-pursuit like knowledge on arcane issues like who voted what on some piece of legislation a decade ago.

As someone who has been on national TV a number of times, I can tell you, it's a lot tougher than it looks to speak intelligently on topics -- even when you're being interviewed by people who want you to do well. 

As for the middle class, I wasn't aware it needed to be "rebuilt".  I don't know many people who wish they could go back in time and live in say the 1950s or even 1970s.

It's hard to look at people who have multiple cars, TVs, 2000+ square foot house, DVD players, iPods, lots of activities for their children, whose biggest health issue is trying not to get fat and conclude that they're somehow getting screwed.

 

Reply #112 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Daiwa, reply 12
Some in the media begin, after awhile, to imagine they are more qualified than anyone for everything (since they know/have seen it 'all') and therefore qualified to pass judgment on those in a position to do something they cannot.  I do appreciate their efforts at sparing me the trouble of having to think for myself, very kind & generous of them, but I choose to continue to shoulder that burden rather than outsource it to a columnist.


So you have the news (CNN) reporting that a news reporter thinks Palin is bad?? How is that news?
They think they are the news.  Simple as that.

Now if only we could stop the media from worshipping at the altar of the Obamessiah, we'd be in business.

Does anyone else think that the media's obsession with Obama reminds them of that cult in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom?

Reply #113 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Palin is Bush in drag.  Just as fundamentalist, just as deluded, just as ignorant, just as dangerous.

Her "knowledge" comes completely from cue cards and reading teleprompters. 

She's not the least bit qualified to hold national public office, let alone be a heartbeat away from the most powerful leadership role in the free world at a time when our country needs expert, competent, worldly stewardship.

If I asked Palin about the Khmer Rouge, she'd go blank, or talk about energy, or perhaps claim she tried that shade of lipstick but it didn't work for her.  :D

You know she would.

We don't need another moron, "buddy", puppet, or pitbull in the White House. 

We need a leader, a PRESIDENT.

This isn't American Idol, for god's sake.

 

Reply #114 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Does anyone else think that the media's obsession with Obama reminds them of that cult in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom?

The media's obsessions change with the winds.  Were you complaining equally when they were obsessing over Palin for weeks after her selection as VP?  Or only now that the gimmick has failed and that we've all caught on?

Reply #116 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Good find Bebi! k2

Reply #117 from WinCustomize Forums Top

It's hard to look at people who have multiple cars, TVs, 2000+ square foot house, DVD players, iPods, lots of activities for their children, whose biggest health issue is trying not to get fat and conclude that they're somehow getting screwed.


Ask those people how they are affording those perks. They may end up telling you that don't. They may tell you that they have multiple credit cards, most maxed out, and are on the verge of loosing all of it, because they wanted it all, but couldn't afford it in the first place, and now they don't know how to get out. Keeping up with the Jones's had just bitten them in the ass, and they are not liking how it feels. I would rather be lower middle class, single mom, struggling paycheck to paycheck, with a single loan of $5000.00, than those people(yes, I shared a bit of myself). All I ask for is health insurance and taxes to be lowered, so that I could live on my modest income (that is not suplimented by food stamps, welfare, or child support.) and be able to save something on the side. 401k at this point is a crap shoot.....but hey, I will let it ride.


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Reply #118 from JoeUser Forums Top

Bebi -

It is so easy to allow imprecision to reveal bias, both in CNN's headline & your reply.  The report did not find that she had abused her power in firing Monegan.  It explicitly states that she was perfectly within her right and within the law to dismiss Monegan.

The report claims she violated state ethics laws in attempting to influence Monegan to dismiss Wooten, who was in fact never dismissed.  This is American Politics at work in the 21st century.  Sad state of affairs when the head of the state troopers knew this was a bad actor (his disciplinary record is public) and when given information from individuals in a unique position to know, dismissed it.

Reply #119 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Which report were you reading?

Report full text (pdf)

The bipartisan panel (10 republicans, 4 democrats) found that she DID violate the Alaska Ethics Act. It wasn't the sole reason, but a contributing factor. It also found that there were at least 19 calls from her husband (using her office) and various other aides pressuring for Wooten to be fired (Todd admitted telling anybody who would listen about his complaints against Wooten). They have given so many different reasons for firing him (insubordination, drinking in his patrol car, going on a lobbying trip to DC to get money to fight sexual violence [are you serious? and this was later DEBUNKED because he did get permission from one of her aides], and in the report Todd Palin said another reason was because Monegan was complaining that Trig wasn't in a proper car seat, etc).

Yes, she followed procedure in firing Monegan, and was within her right to do so, but the issue is that a contributing factor was personal interest (as the statute and report says) and that her family was in fact pressuring to get Wooten fired. She then denied any wrongdoing, violating the trust of the Alaskan people.

The investigation by the personnel board (appointed by the governor) is still on-going.

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Reply #120 from WinCustomize Forums Top

The denials in the face of all evidence are remarkable.

Reply #121 from WinCustomize Forums Top

She's not the least bit qualified to hold national public office

And I assume you think O-ra-ma-ba-ma is qualified? :rofl:

Wow, that's a scary thought.

Reply #122 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Does not work that way.

Ah, but it does... having active ties to known terrorists and giving or receiving funds to or from known terrorists are imprisonable offences under the Patriot act.  Just ssk Australian, David Hicks, who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and was held indefinitely in Guantanamo without trial. Without negotiations and assurances from the Australian Governrment, Hicks would still be there.

Bill Ayers is not in jail after all,

No, he did his time for his crimes.

and he is the terrorist.

Was an extremist.... now a university professor/lecturer

Having ties is not a crime (it shows a lack of good judgement, but is not a crime)

Again, Ask David Hicks... better still, the hundreds of other Guantanamo inmates arrested and still held without trial.

You need to learn more about the reality instead of buying all the hype.

Ah yes, the hype... from the Australian and British Governments, the Red Cross and the UN! Hardly credible sources, so I and everyone else who thinks Guantanamo is in violation of the Geneva Convention must be wrong.

Reply #123 from WinCustomize Forums Top


Matter of fact I also say we stay the hell out of other countries business, we have our own problems to deal with.Tell that to the Bush/McCain adminstration that thinks we should stay in Iraq forever if "need be."



The United States is still in Germany, Japan, and Korea. Does that mean Roosevelt and Truman were horrible Presidents?

Let's not compare apples to oranges here!  The forces in Germany, Japan and S Korea were there in response to ongoing conflicts, and remained afterwards to make war reparations and establish security in those regions... now to maintain strategic bases offshore. 

In Iraq, however, it was an uninvited invasionary force, sent there on a pack of lies. (WMD's????).... and now ( for fear of wholesale slaughter in Iraq and subsequent international condemnation) the US does not know how to extricate itself from something it had no business being involved in... Bush had an axe to grind and lied to the American people (the World) about Iraqi WMD's.

Reply #124 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Which report were you reading?
. ..lol..yeah, musta been sumthin' on Rupert's network..SO accurate, 'fair + balanced'...nice one Bebi

Ah yes, the hype... from the Australian and British Governments, the Red Cross and the UN! Hardly credible sources, so I and everyone else who thinks Guantanamo is in violation of the Geneva Convention must be wrong.
...yeah Starks...they don't like facts getting in the way of their diatribes  lol...it must be stated & acknowledged Starks how well informed you are there down under;it warmed my heart to hear of your diligent & thorough journos having debate & public feedback on the Senator McCain campaign bus road rage incident in regard to his addressing his wife as a troll and a C_nt after her teasing him for his hair loss....in front of the embedded media no less...

 

Reply #125 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Alaska panel find Palin abused power in firing

Troopergate report: Full text

I was going to post this myself... beat me to it cos obviously I was in bed 'downunder' when it was released. ;)

The fact that there were 10 Repubs (6 more than the Dems) on that invesigative panel gives it greater credibility/legitimacy...

.. thus removing possible accusations it was all an Obama/Biden/Democrat plot to discredit Palin.. though no doubt the Repub faithful... er, fanatics will still try regardless.

I'd never heard of Sarah Palin prior to McCain's announcement that she would be his running mate - why would I have (down in Oz) when she was a 'nothing' and therefore irrelevant - but this Troopergate report seems to bear out my instant initial reaction (to seeing video footage of her) that she is clueless, and therefore slimy to cover her arse/further her own self-serving causes.

I did not like the woman then.. much less so now.