watertown1978

[quote who="Moderateman" reply="10" id="1956890"]Seems to me the people that support higher taxes on the so called rich, don't have to shell out more money, so higher taxes do not affect them. While the so called rich do not use any of the perks of goverment and still be forced to pay higher taxes, don't sound fair to me at all.[/quote] see That is one of my pet peeves so to say. All these people for the tax increase it would not really affect them at all. Refusing to t

[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="4" id="1956429"] wow I never though of that right off usually I do. I tell the old lady that when she says something about the gas companies or whatever.... I told her that they are going to make the money either way. stuff just gets handed down to the person buying said stuff and overall it just hurts the middle to low income people.You're as laughable as Nitro.[/quote] What the higher taxes will be passed on to the consumer. TO t

[quote who="Moderateman" reply="13" id="1956759"] ive been a HUGE supporter in econ being a required class not for one but TWO years worth. Many parents have gotten away from teaching thier kids the basics in life and how things work. This is one of the very few things I support the schools to teach watertown1978on Nov 27, 2008 Amen, after teaching, we would only have to be able to pin down a politician to get an answer, they are all masters at saying tomes of information while

[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="11" id="1956433"]I saw a wamu commercail on tv last night and almost busted a nut laughing so hardYeah, me too--both nuts![/quote] a sad fact is though people will once again put money there and if it fails again they will wonder what happend. Me I bank at a small bank that has a total of 10 branches... and most are in stores with a few B&M offices here and there... I never did trust big banks.... and what has happend sure as

[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="10" id="1956474"] all it did was line the pockets of the people that got into the mess in the first place. I'll grant you that it appears that way and I have always suspected white collar thievery, but this time they are under scrutiny and will have to come through. Even Freddie and Fanny are making steady progress.[/quote] Let me ask you this... if there was not as much public uproar you think that there would be a watchful eye on

[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="17" id="1956456"] A job is a job right? I am a good enough worker where I dont need some "union" to protect me.A John Wayne, eh? Well, there are many others who do need protection--all for one and one for all. BTW how would I be a scab if there is no union there anyways? And if your trying to get me all rattled believe me its gonna take more than this Not my aim, but in commentary elsewhere you told me to shut the hell up so semper fi to

[quote who="Nitro Cruiser" reply="1" id="1955782"] The few corporations who actually pay 35% are low and they have huge write offs and shelters to minimize the effect of 35%. Apparently you never heard of churning--the process of brazenly selling and buying not for the client but to amass extradordinay fees. How do you account for multibillions in bonuses for traders and brokers? Get a life. It's no problem for the companies large or small to pay their 35% tax. Apparently you n

Thnk... you for some reason support more taxes so why on earth would you give the politicans more money to waste? Why on gods green earth would you want to do this? are you not sick of them tossing money left and right for no real benifit except to those that dont need or deserve it? Look I have no issues with more taxes if they are put to good use... none of this over budget crap.... non of this helping the illegals .... As for the groth thing I think that tax

I saw a wamu commercail on tv last night and almost busted a nut laughing so hard...

[quote who="grokTheSystem" reply="4" id="1954452"]There are far too many loons - I get liberals and conservatives but not the ones who start foaming at the mouth. I think many Americans have become so wrapped up in the liberal vs. conservative labels that they don't realize that at best these politicians are decent custodians of public will. Remember when Democracts and Republicans were laughing at Bush looking for weapons of mass destruction under the couch? These guys

[quote]and I could ask you the same question. You are blowing this [/quote][quote who="stevendedalus" reply="9" id="1954669"]No, I'm not kidding and I could ask you the same question. You are blowing this up beyond reality. Yes, I've worked union and non-union jobs and except for better conditions of the former, there is no difference in the comaraderie in the workplace. Btw, ever hear of magnatized screw heads? Even if your absured example were true, management would have decided it was

[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="15" id="1954707"] thats what needs to happen. As much as i feel for anyone loosing a job, if they really want to work they will go back. Heck I would move if i was promised a job there lolPAYBACK TIME: STHU, scab.[/quote] What> because I would work to provide for my family? O soooo sorry I should just sit on my thumbs and think OOO POOR MEEEEE WHERES MY NEXT HAND OUT??@@!!! A job is a job right? I am a goo

[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="4" id="1954686"] Where do you even get your statistics on "most of the wealthy"?Talking about the truly big guys; certainly not small business owners who work their ass off to survive. So who decides what "non productive" items are?Never heard of drivatives and default swaps? Ask the 800 Starbucks franchise owners that were shut down if it was "productive."[/quote] but saying that anything above 250k is going to hurt the small guys.</p

[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="13" id="1954700"]STHU: do you make 250k a year? if not then STHU because your not the one that has to pay it "And the same could be said to the rich: 'do you make less than 20k a year? If not then STHU because you're not the one that has to struggle to survive'." Thanksgiving for Maudlin! [/quote] Ahhh alot of the rich people start out like me or you. Making shit pay. Unless they

[quote who="taltamir" reply="2" id="1954496"] Quoting watertown1978, reply 24see this is why ill never along with alot of Conservatives will never cross the and huge and kiss Dems... National heathcare...look to the north and see how well it can work. I know how we can lower the cost though of drugs and Healthcare. How about we put an end to everyone sueing them your all good then!! i just did, the earliest you can get a bypass surgury in canada is after

[quote who="TheBigOne" reply="6" id="1954419"]Isn't it more fault of GM that they let have UAW such a big and negative impact? I mean saying that its fault of a union or even unions in general is a bit of a weak argument if you look at Volkswagen, Mercedes, BMW or even Renault, Citroen and Peugeot. Most of their workers are in unions and there are even works councils. (speaking about "socialist" europe here where corporations also have to pay for pensions and health care and all th

Sod... One way is to first have decent traspariency on the budget and easy for someone with half a brain to read. Yes you can see the budget but most of it has clutter of garbage and is also hard to understand with all the "in between" stuff. It would be intresting how much money is waisted for a specail hammer and stuff like that

[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="18" id="1953965"]Volume has always been the aim--I suppose since the old white sales of Woolworth and Macy's--to reduce prices so that in the end you make more by thinking smarter and working harder. Model Ts, too, showed this in order to produce for the masses, not to mention the move to raise wages to make products more affordable. That's also the theme behind progressive taxes: indeed, spread the wealth to make more products available for the little g

To be honest Gov has shown any ability recently to actually spend money wisely. I rather have the induvidual decide how to spend it, heck even probually give some to charity. This whole "because they can afford it" BS is getting old and that is usually the only counter people that support more taxes on the wealthy can come up with.

[quote who="Draginol" reply="13" id="1954034"]They should just file for bankruptcy. Let people who know what they're doing run them. And I live in the Detroit area. [/quote] thats what needs to happen. As much as i feel for anyone loosing a job, if they really want to work they will go back. Heck I would move if i was promised a job there lol

your kidding right? Its not bashing but is a fact. everything in here is true. Have your worked a union job? You see a need to have one person put the screw in and another one just to run the screw gun? Because that is the way it is. In fact why are people still paid to sit around and do nothing because of more automation? Because by union and laws they cant just lay them off. Trying to compare the 80's to now is just silly. Its a more competitive market. With that its

[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="9" id="1953914"]Your tax rate is based on "taxable income" which means the excess[or profit] above and beyond what the cost is to survive. The reason taxes is progressive is that "survival" doesn't mean the cost of a yacht or the latest fashion so that the more you make the more you spend on frivolity which will cost you another marginal percentage above the base tax. A person making $20,000 probably pays 10% on the amount s

[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="8" id="1953873"] come on have we seen any of this money going anywhere besides the execs pockets? Im not seeing growth unless your calling growth in the unemployment claimsHopefully, Paulson has mandated that this infusion must go to borrowers--consumers and small business--who are relatively financially secure.[/quote] you would think and that was what the inital was supposed to do was free up the credit and like i siad all it did

CC companies still make money even if you dont pay intrest. It cost money to run your CC though the system to charge it

[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="7" id="1953862"]Social Security is matched by the employer, but anything including UI is factored into the value of labor--nothing is charitable.[/quote] This is a very good point.. after all you can only get UI if there is a legit reason for getting fired ( Ive had to collect when I got fired for taking 2 days off in 5 months both for specailist apointments out of town for my kids, didnt have the FMLA so pretty much because it didnt fa