[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="13" id="1968788"] Except the Bush administration in terms of Iraq, of course. I put no qualifier on it. Beleive what you want. I am sure that Obama and Clinton never ever lied.[/quote] BO already lied and hes not even office... was not one of his things durring the Run being that " I WILL BALANCE THE BUDGGEEETTT!!!!!" opps i guess he went back on that too
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="8" id="1968761"] You profess to be a hardworking citizen whether unionized or not. but you don't seem to give a damn for those facing layoffs. I have been laid off twice. Going for a third time now. Where are my boo hoos? I dont want any, and I dont need any. Unlike others, I am not a victim. Face it, apparently being laid off is only bad when you are union. No one is bailing me out (or has bailed out my previous 2 compa
DR your one your second lay off too? I am on my second one this year also and it stinks. Yeah I am sure they will blame bush for it too though I am sure that people wont realize that its a total liberial idea to do something like this. Its gonna kill small buessness and its also gonna take away the 1 weeks paid vacation that normal people get after one year because now the employers are gonna have to pay sick time off.... its so stupid if you ask me
[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="24" id="1967319"] I am a liberal opposed to the auto industry bailout. Just to let you know. Be well. Cowardice. Yeah there will be some backlash at first but it will recover. You profess to be a hardworking citizen whether unionized or not. but you don't seem to give a damn for those facing layoffs. Its not like the jobs are gonna get outsources to india or somethingTher's nothing to prevent the Big 3 from continuing their overseas
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="5" id="1968736"] Well I mean all of us together Those that had gave to charity. Those that wanted only "me me me" gave to Obama.[/quote] O you couldnt have said it better. We had a local story here about this same exact thing here in the city of Milwaukee having to do with sick time paid.... MMEMEMEMEME! and never think outside of the box. I personally think that i hope the city becomes a hole when all the buessnesses move out
I still dont think that the school has a place to do sex ed. Maybe water down when they are late middle school or High school. This is another example of taking the resposibility from the parents and making it the Gov resposibility. in fact its getting to the point where once the kid is born we should just hand the kids over to the state because all the parents are gonna be is financally resposible for the kids.... if we are lucky
[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="19" id="1967421"] So good try man. Its a sinking ship I recomend you jump ship while there is still room left on the lifeboat. No way, unions are as American as apple pie and the flag pin. It pays idled workers a full salary and benefits even when there is no work for them to do.")So does Toyota and only because management needs to retool their strategies.[/quote] to your last statement... granted you can retool , but here is the b
[quote who="Anthony R" reply="22" id="1967055"]I don't think this is the right time for ideology. The US auto industry is on the verge of collapse and its no time to take out a checklist and tick off what conservatives or liberals would traditionally do. If all 3 US automakers go down, it will be a severe black eye to all Americans and it will probably hurt our e3conomy in ways we can't yet imagine.[/quote] Once again americans will not stop buying cars. The slack will
[quote who="KFC Kickin For Christ" reply="20" id="1965939"]Did anyone watch 20/20 last night regarding this issue? John Stossel did another "gimmie a break episode. He outlined the whole drama even showing how Toyota and Honda are doing ok because they made better decisions and kept the pay scale reasonable all along. They managed to survive by keeping their costs down. They don't own expensive jets for one thing. Then at the end of the progra
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="10" id="1965016"] All I can say with the beating Colleen and I have taken in the stock market, we are applying for a bailout ourselves WE ALL are taking! But I refuse to burden others because of my decisions. Mac and Cheese anyone? [/quote] BUT BUT DR.! Didnt you know thats the way to do things now? cry " OOOO MEEE!!!! ITS NOT MY FUALT!" and hold out your hand! those of us that knew better not to buy even though we
[quote who="taltamir" reply="8" id="1965009"]ok so let me get it straight: 1. Bailout the banks. 2. Bail out home owners who have loans for more then the house is "worth". (by buying it down) 3. Bail out the auto industry... 4. ? 5. Profit? I see a little problem with this plan so far.[/quote] #2 should be requoted to say "bail out home owners that took on too much
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="10" id="1964611"]Wrong only if you beleive what you hear, and not what you see. Right if you beleive what you see. History has proven him right, and politicians have been proven to lie.[/quote] Politicans lie? no way@?!
[quote who="Moderateman" reply="4" id="1964721"]All I can say with the beating Colleen and I have taken in the stock market, we are applying for a bailout ourselves [/quote] Well if your not a big donater to the politicans dont count on any money [e digicons]:rofl:[/e]
[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="5" id="1962373"] WHat has Obama been doing for the past year?He let Biden carry the ball--pay more taxes dammit and you shall feel the thrill of patriotism.[/quote] BO little buddy Biden scares me alot more than OB does... Its a toss up between him and good ol nancy as wack job of the year
[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="16" id="1962387"] And that is why you find them more often working together, instead of working at odds.You're old enough to know better that the great history of the American automobile was responsible for so many jobs and wealth for the nation for a hundred years.[/quote] How do you like this so called "working" with the auto makers by the union? they are going to eleminate the job bank ( where you get paid I think 2 ye
[quote who="Daiwa" reply="22" id="1962177"]They're already laying the groundwork to blame Bush for any of BO's failures. For example, despite our economic turmoil, the economy wasn't actually in a recession as traditionally defined, so some economic analysts decided the definition was inadequate & simply redefined it on their own terms, then announced to us that we've been in a recession for a year, which the complicit media simply trumpeted front page as fact. I expect the ec
[quote who="Moderateman" reply="18" id="1960539"] watertown1978comment 17Nitro Cruiserreply 15whats wrong with napalm?It's now a banned weapon. Really? thats to bad. I guess its to "inhumane" yup there is nothing like the smell of roast pig in the morning air to let you know there are no enemy in this area for now anyway.[/quote] at least they are already cooked.....
[quote who="Nitro Cruiser" reply="15" id="1960115"] whats wrong with napalm? It's now a banned weapon.[/quote] Really? thats to bad. I guess its to "inhumane"
[quote who="Anthony R" reply="10" id="1959833"] As an old Marine would say, "Hell, we don't take no prisoners." Much cleaner that way. Geeze, using Napalm bombs and now "taking no prisoners" Are you sure youre a liberal? [/quote] whats wrong with napalm?
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="1" id="1958831"]Ugh! Bad all the way around. The money should not be given to the states. If no tax cut is forthcoming (and the very proposal indicates that at least some on his staff do believe that tax cuts work), use it to pay for the misbegotten bailouts already promised! And dont promise any more! But if you really want a depression, go ahead and soak the rich. That will dry up the capital to create jobs and thereby prol
Ehhh I am one of those layoffs :( Anyways OP.... bud... if you are illegal then GTFO. I hate people like you. Burning the American Flag ( not you per say but its been done ) You whine and complain about how "bad" it is... yet you are here using what stuff this country provides. If you hate by all means... leave... and never come back You say your at steet lvl and you hate the "everyday" joe. Let me tell you this... Us everyday Joes work. most of us want to do no
[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="4" id="1958341"] How about this... Give em credit if they actually spend the money wisely... if not then tax em?! I like this idea moreDitto and while we're at it give business credit when they hire here at home and keep their plants here.[/quote] See steve... I am not sure if your one of the people that are for the tax hikes ( short term memory is shot for me lol ) but I have this thing about themm.... I hate em. Though I am opene
I dont think hes gonna do everything he said durring the campain... hes already gone back on a few major issues... one being balancing the budget... and also the "tax raise" amount. SO no... I dont expect anything except Good ol nancy whispering in his ear "we got you elected now its time to pay up... sign this."
[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="2" id="1956955"]You might be right--somewhat harsh--but I'm talking about those businesses that have them on the books. I'm not advocating going after the lemonade stand.[/quote] Well I know but really being under the age of 18 shouldnt carry the burdon of taxes and paying for stuff that they have no say in. After all all of us over the age of 18 can vote and if we dont like what a certain elected offical is doing we have the right to v
I have issues with taxing underaged people sorry... but if your going to tax a kid you might as well give them rights to so stuff like vote and such... after all thier money that they earned is being spent tooo....