They just need the tooltip updated so it doesn't still show them being used when they are gone.  They are a consumable resource and should be displayed more like the other resources 

You want a simple solution but not so simple solution?

Administrators should create Projects or Commands   once a Project point or Command Point, or Bureaucracy point  is used up it is gone.   Simply changing the name of the "admin point" to something else will simplify things.

Update the tool tip to show what they were spent on.     


Create a building that is Empire Unique and call it the Continuing Education Center.  This building grants say 2 "admin points" when built but allows for the project that always takes 5 turns no matter what, but will allow existing administrators to be retrained  once  for say 3 more admin points.

Then a player that has lost starbases or ships due to mega events or wars can recoup the loss     The player also has to pay in something (time) to do it    but they can also control when and if they need it.   Also they would lose a tile.

My biggest concern is I create a colony ship or a constructor, and then start the looooong move to get where it needs to get only to find it I can no longer claim it be a planet or resource. So then I can either drop it on nothing (starbase/constructor) or just lose it (colony ship).

I would be fine if you lose a starbase in combat the admin is lost (died with the crew), but a ship that I haven't yet "transposed" either to a planet or starbase I should be able to recover the admin for possible other use.

Yes. Virtually unlimited. It limit by the how long the turn you will play on one game which last around 100-200 turns so use them wisely. Although there is a tech that allow you to train your own citizen by using social production. It is bloody expensive too.

There is a limit to how many can have 'x' job in the government though. So for Admins for example, I believe there are only 10 slots. So once those slots are filled, you can't assign any more admins leading a semi-limit of 40 admin points from Citizens.

Could you make it possible to repurpose a Star Base e.g. by getting rid of it's mining modules and turning it into an Influence or Military or Economic Star Base or vice versa?

On really large maps Administrators are going to be a major bottleneck. I am playing a new game (2.1.3)with a Gigantic Spiral Map with almost everything common (except Ascension and Anomalies) and after less than two years I am starting to run into being able to build Colonizers and Constructors, faster to a lot faster, than I can get Administrators even training all of my new Citizens as Administrators. I do seem to be ahead of all the Races I have meet in numbers of Colonies. There is still a lot to be colonized and resources to grab with Star Bases.

I am still seeing some spikes of 4,000 to 6,000 cash gains in the timeline for some AI Players, not a lot of spikes but some.

PS I am Dray Prescot in the Steam Discussions.

My suggestion:

- Administrators on starbases or ships that are destroyed are lost.

- Administrators can be retrieved from colonizers/constructors/survey ships if those ships are disbanded in a shipyard. For that matter, I would strongly prefer the change (that was mentioned by several people in the past) that ships can only be upgraded and disbanded in shipyards and/or that there is a new constructor type that doesn't need an administrator but can upgrade and disband ships in space.

- When a starbase is disbanded the Administrator has to fly back to the nearest shipyard with a private vessel.

I made a mod that removed all admin costs, so you can build an unlimited amount of colony, constructor, survey, or hypergate ships. After playing it a few times, I found the game didn't change much.

Mind you, before that mod, my play style involved getting 4 admin citizens at the start and researching a whole bunch of techs that gave me admin points. Near the end of the game on huge maps, I start running out of admins for my starbases. I don't use a whole lot of survey and no hypergate ships.