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Reply #1701 Top

Then they are being assholes and not real friends...well night and gl koda.

Reply #1702 Top

Quoting Xer07, reply 1700
The main goal that Jess and Liz together are out to get is to STOP me from Dating Mishayla at all costs. (which confuses me, since Liz actually broke up Ethan and Mishayla...)
End of Xer07's quote

Ironic, isn't it? Withheld love only adds romanticism. Do they want you NOT to date M or do they want your relationship with M to fail? If the latter, wouldn't it suit them best to let you fail on your own (or more likely succeed)?

Reply #1703 Top

heres what i posted

 

brothers sad cus he was going to tell a girl he liked her tommarow and this is what he said hapened today

her-hay oaka i want to tell you something

him-(embarrassed) yah what is it

her-I GOT A BF he asked me to the prom

him-(dieing inside) thats awsome

her-arnt you happy?

him-yah so who is he

her-joey

him-wow well im happy for you(HOW DID I LOSE TO JOEY!?!)

so i feel bad for him

 

Reply #1704 Top

Damn, that's actually VERY relevant to me...

Well, talking from experience, tell him to stay by her side the entire time, as her friend, but also to outcompete and outshine Joey, but in MODERATION.  Have her attention over Joey whenever easily possible, and do nice considerate things for her that a Boyfriend typically does, but can't, since he's already done them.  Eventually, Joey will get jealous of him, and leave her, OR she'll get tired of Joey's inferiority to him, and leave Joey.

Of course, I'm not sure if your brother is the type who can do things like this w/out his conscious telling him how wrong it is, that call is up to you, skidi.

Xer0 \^/

Reply #1705 Top

Ifear: i'm not entirely sure at the moment, that's the issue...

Xer0 \^/

Reply #1706 Top

see all he can do is still be her friend it just bummed him out cus this happened the DAY before he was going to ask her and hes such a kind heart that he couldnt try to turn her agenst him so the best he can do is be her friend and keep trying to show her that he really cares also i saw this joey and i dont like the look of him eather he looks like he may hurt her in the end anyway and brother will be there for her when he dose

Reply #1707 Top

I see... hm.

Man, I hate it when this happens, when others come to me for help, but they either already have the answer, or they can't do anything. Makes me feel like a third wheel. :'(   Well, I wish him luck in his endeavour, and to never get too down and to never think it's over.  Tomorrow will always be there, with fresh oppourtunities and promises awaiting you.

 

Off Topic:This vid just about shows/explains how pissed I am at Liz and Jess, yet I can't do anything.

Xer0 \^/

 

Reply #1708 Top

xer0 you are no third wheel you are the maker of the wheel

and good night see you all tomarrow

Reply #1709 Top

Quoting skidiantasa, reply 1688
i myself have also trained in magic so has my brother i specialize in charms and wards and physical magic while my brother is good at wards spirit magic altho its hard for me to explain without adding religion so...
End of skidiantasa's quote

Then showcase some piece of proof of this so-called magic.

Quoting Twilight_Storm, reply 1689
Whiskey, given that situation, there was no time to exploit a flaw as (According to Skidi's current relation of how the events transpired) there was no time to examine the slab, and flaws in metal are meticulously difficult to find on the spot like that.  If there were an obvious one, Skidi would have mentioned such(I believe)

We need to clear up our definitions of magic before this continues.

To me, magic is the focussing of Spiritual power.  (Your own, most commonly in my case, but sometimes other spirits as well) to increase your own physical or mental prowess.  Most often achieved through meditation.)

I very rarely will acknowledge large scale shows of power such as throwing a fireball or some other such act, unless I actually see that.  To me, magic is mostly a complete knowledge of one's physical ability, and being able to manipulate your spiritual energy to enhance/compliment that ability.

-Twilight Storm | My life for the Dahkri | Be as one with yourself
End of Twilight_Storm's quote

1. Then the only answer is the simplest one; thus, the shaman has exceptional physical conditioning. Besides, I know a man who has broken on at least one occasion no less than 5 1-2 (probably ~2") inch thick concrete slabs. With his elbow. This man is at present a 6th degree Master of Ho-Am Tae Kwon Do.

2. The specific nature of so-called magic is not the subject of debate; its existance is. Thus, definition has little relevance.

3. There are lots of fancy and simple methods of throwing fireballs. A small device that can launch a pyrophoric material and also ignites it, can give the illusion of throwing fireballs, IF the illusion is pulled of correctly.

Quoting skidiantasa, reply 1690
heres my list of magic (twilight may remember this)

 

in the world we belive in three forms of power

spirital-wich draws on your spirit and that of your guardian

phychical-draws upon your own strength

arcane-a source of power traped between worlds the source of all creation

 

the power can be used in many ways like

spirital

charms- mostly used by shamans and seers charms ward the dark and evil spirits they are also used for simpler tasks such as keeping food supplys safe from vermin

enchantment- by useing the aid of your guardian you are able to enhance objects usualy jewly on jewly it would help protect you when in danger or help your guardian find you in times of need

combat- one is able to use there spirital energy to enhance there fighting asbility by focusing on a punch or blow they are able to drasticly change its power this has been demostrated when the shaman was able to punch through armor

 

physical

blood magic- one is able to use there blood as offering to call power and evil to the world of the living i do not yet understand it myself because my master avoids the subject

combat-as above but insted of your spirtial energy you push you body to extreme limits usualy only used when in greate danger altho it is limited to the users own physical limits

 

arcane

not much here i have yet to study this school it is only taught to the seers and shamans but from what i understand the user is able to call the power of the gods for healing of aid

 

i only listed the one i have studyed
End of skidiantasa's quote

I shall now pick apart this list of so-called magic.

1. There is nothing we can do to keep demons away. Nothing.

2. Keeping food supply safe from vermin is as simple as making sure they don't get into the storage area.

3. Practitioners of many martial arts are able to break several wooden boards or concrete slabs. Is this magic? No. It is the simple application of the formula "Ke=M*V^2", where Ke=kinetic energy (in Joules), M=mass in kilograms, and V=velocity in meters per second. Additionally, a hand-to-hand combat weapon (like a knife/sword/axe/hammer/whatever) adds more mass, that then gives more impact force.

4. This is utter ridiculousness. Additionally, due to your lack of knowledge on the subject it would have been wiser to keep silent on it.

5. Occam's Razor provides the answer of adrenaline and "mind over matter", if you will. Adrenaline can cause the human body to accomplish impressive feats (such as breaking concrete or lifting trees), and "mind over matter" is simple willpower. It's possible to fight solely on willpower. You just need a lot of it.

6. There is only 1 God, and He hates magic/sorcery, since it is essentially the worship of something that is not Him. After all, man was created to serve and worship Him (yes Storm, you said no religion, but skidi did bring it up).

Quoting Twilight_Storm, reply 1691
With the proper meditation I have been able to divine the coming of a storm in the past and relieve the pain of myself and others.  I'm also highly empathic to those around me(Yeah, you may not think this is magic but I do.)

My belief in magic can be summed up in the magical aspect of Wicca.

Any of you ever heard of Stav?  (The form of martial arts/magic practice I mentioned)  I didn't get a comment on that one.  It's something I'ma look into sometime soon.

-Twilight Storm | My life for the Dahkri
End of Twilight_Storm's quote

I believe in intuition. More likely IMO you simply (correctly) observed the conditions and predicted that a storm was coming. Empathy isn't magic, it is simply being very observant of those around you and determining emotional state based on body language, tonal inflection, and general demeanor.

Explain this releiving of pain.

You do know that some "wiccan" practitioners declare themselves gods, correct?

No. I have not heard of Stav, nor am I interested in it. All things magical and sorcerous are, to put it nicely, not good, in nature.

Quoting Altaux, reply 1695
Like I said. Its impossible to believe in God and not believe in the spiritual. But I want nothing to do with your magic this and that so I  am out here before Whiskey starts burning all the heretics. lol
End of Altaux's quote

I do believe in the spiritual. However, I don't believe in magic. And I won't be burning the heretics. I will be sending troops to cleanse them.

You want a definition Storm. Alright. I have no definition except for I'll know it when I see it. However, I can tell you what it can include; this is: Necromancy, Sorcery, certain types of blood rituals and sacrifices.

After all, an Aztec sacrifice isn't magic (it's paganism but that's beside the point). Actually, I do have a definition of magic- the practice of calling upon supposedly otherworldly powers to do the bidding of the summoner.

Quoting Xer07, reply 1697
*SIGH*

So much for mah distracting kittehs.  And yes, morph, I'm trying to redeem myself.

*Pulls out trump card*

SO I HAVE GREAT NEWS!

And... bad news.

The great news is that Ethan and Mishayla broke up today, and that our "Date" this weekend will be exumpt of her Girlfriend, Hannah.  However, several of our friends are coming along, anyway.

The bad news is that Liz is getting SUPER PISSED at me for giving Mishayla more attention BEFORE we date then I ever gave her while we were dating. As a result, Jess (the one who hooked me up w/ Liz in the first place) is calling me a man-whore, Mishayla a self-centered ignorant slut and blah blah blah...  I was afraid this would happen when I found out that Liz had a crush on me last year.  The easiest way out of this is to just not be friends anymore, but that's gonna be hard, since Liz is my oldest friend, and Mishayla's best friend.

Hmmm... no such thing as a perfect day.

Xer0 \^/
End of Xer07's quote

Ignore them. A small mind is easily filled with anything really. If your crush begins to feel down, then silence those who are causing it.

 

And now, for my finale- I will DISPROVE the existence of magic using Occam's Razor.

U=N

U=N+M

Where: U=Universe as we know/understand it, N=laws of nature/physics as we understand them, and M=magic. Occam's Razor dictates that the simplest (workable) answer is the truth, thus, there is no magic.

The only way you will get me to believe in magic is if you-

1. Present me with quantifiable and incontrovertible truth. After all, a suspicious mind is a healthy mind; if I can find an alternate answer, then it disproves the existence of magic.

2. Present me with the rules that govern this force. If I didn't believe in gravity, then you'd present me with Newton's Laws and Einstein's Relativity.

In short, magic existing is about as likely as alien life visiting Earth for some reason or another.

Which brings me to solving the Fermi Paradox- the reason we haven't detected any signs of alien life is because there is no SENTIENT alien life. It's not that alien life doesn't exist, it's that none of it is sentient and therefore capable of creating a civilization of any kind, let alone one with any industrial capability.

 

"A suspicious mind is a healthy one."

Reply #1710 Top

Quoting Xer07, reply 1700
Oh, sorry Skidi, can you quote the post? Your tiny posts get lost in the HUGE arguments between Morph and Callen.

Ifear: The main goal that Jess and Liz together are out to get is to STOP me from Dating Mishayla at all costs. (which confuses me, since Liz actually broke up Ethan and Mishayla...)

Xer0 \^/
End of Xer07's quote

Then your goal is to remove the obstacle they present using any means necessary.

 

"A suspicious mind is a healthy one."

Reply #1711 Top

Quoting skidiantasa, reply 1708
xer0 you are no third wheel you are the maker of the wheel

and good night see you all tomarrow
End of skidiantasa's quote

He's not the maker of the wheel; he is it's driver.

 

"A suspicious mind is a healthy mind."

Reply #1712 Top

FOR
THE
LOVE
OF
(INSERT RELIGIOUS FIGURE HERE)

Whiskey, the ENTIRE point of me even changing the topic of conversation was to DETRACT from this topic of conversation.

Every human, regardless of race, ideaology, gender, religion, or intelligence is entitled to his/her own opinion, and trying to take away another human's born rights is simply wrong IMO.  Let me ask you this: You beleive that magic is impossible, well, I beleive that acheiving a human lifespan over 150 years is impossible.  Same basic principle, yet I'm not ignorant to the point where I'll try to stomp out any and all beleifs otherwise within you.  Looking back thru history, this has been the cause of many wars and countless lives lost, on each side.  Fighting about anything such as this is the same as fighting for air in an air-tight space; you'll only end up killing yourself faster by wasting your energy fighting for something that can be mutually shared amongst the conflicting members.

Srry for my rant, I'm a bit miffed ATM.

Xer0 \^/

Reply #1713 Top

OMFG

During my rant, Mishayla sent me this via e-mail.

On second thought, nvr mind.

Xer0 \^/

 

 
Reply #1714 Top

Quoting Whiskey144, reply 1709


Which brings me to solving the Fermi Paradox- the reason we haven't detected any signs of alien life is because there is no SENTIENT alien life. It's not that alien life doesn't exist, it's that none of it is sentient and therefore capable of creating a civilization of any kind, let alone one with any industrial capability.
End of Whiskey144's quote

Your arguement is that "because aliens have not come into contact with humans, they cannot be sentient."

I warned you earlier about the perversions of Social Darwinism, but you didn't heed it. One more infraction, and I shall render you nothing but an overactive conspiracy theorist.

Reply #1715 Top

Xer0, you just found the space ponies. Congratulations!

Reply #1716 Top

Space ponies?

Bwwwaaaaaaaaah?

In the meantime; what's everyone favorite song of all time? This is mine, along w/ my fave video of all time.

 

Xer0 \^/

 

Reply #1717 Top

Quoting Xer07, reply 1712
FOR
THE
LOVE
OF
(INSERT RELIGIOUS FIGURE HERE)

Whiskey, the ENTIRE point of me even changing the topic of conversation was to DETRACT from this topic of conversation.

Every human, regardless of race, ideaology, gender, religion, or intelligence is entitled to his/her own opinion, and trying to take away another human's born rights is simply wrong IMO.  Let me ask you this: You beleive that magic is impossible, well, I beleive that acheiving a human lifespan over 150 years is impossible.  Same basic principle, yet I'm not ignorant to the point where I'll try to stomp out any and all beleifs otherwise within you.  Looking back thru history, this has been the cause of many wars and countless lives lost, on each side.  Fighting about anything such as this is the same as fighting for air in an air-tight space; you'll only end up killing yourself faster by wasting your energy fighting for something that can be mutually shared amongst the conflicting members.

Srry for my rant, I'm a bit miffed ATM.

Xer0 \^/
End of Xer07's quote

And yet people used to live for up to several centuries (like 300+ years) a few thousand years ago. The oldest recorded human (Methusaleh) is said to have been a bit over 900 years old. Using the proper techniques, lifespans of several centuries would be easy to achieve.

Nobody is born with any rights. All men/women are born unequal, and they are that way because we are all different, and thus have different skillsets. While a group of people may have the same/similar skills, all those people are different.

If the enemy is defeated, then my demise is irrelevant; my objective was achieved.

What are you miffed about?

Quoting IrationalFear, reply 1714
Quoting Whiskey144,
reply 1709
Which brings me to solving the Fermi Paradox- the reason we haven't detected any signs of alien life is because there is no SENTIENT alien life. It's not that alien life doesn't exist, it's that none of it is sentient and therefore capable of creating a civilization of any kind, let alone one with any industrial capability.


Your arguement is that "because aliens have not come into contact with humans, they cannot be sentient."

I warned you earlier about the perversions of Social Darwinism, but you didn't heed it. One more infraction, and I shall render you nothing but an overactive conspiracy theorist.
End of IrationalFear's quote

No, it's not "because aliens have not come into contact with humans, they cannot be sentient". It's "because the human race has not detected any signs of industrialized alien life, there is no sentient alien life". Makes more sense when I say it that way doesn't it.

What warning? I'll pervert social Darwinism all the hell I want, since it's just a bunch of BS.

Oh really? Render me nothing but an overactive conspiracy theorist? I'll be the first person to admit my errors if we encounter intelligent, sentient alien life. But not until then. Besides, I never brought up any hint of conspiracy. I simply stated what I believe to be the solution of the Fermi Paradox.

Reply #1718 Top

Alright, Whiskey. I'll two of your birds with one stone: in order to overcome this, you are going to lose something.

You say people used to live for several centuries several thousands of years ago, therefore, the records from then are highly accurate and reputable.  Well, in several ancient societies' records, there are records of "men who came from the sky" and hyrogliphics of such men as well. SEVERAL. THOUSAND. YEARS. AGO.  If you believe ppl actually lived this long, you therefore must also believe that SOMETHING of unhuman origin visited mankind in it's infancy. 

Similarly; yes, we are all born different, but we are also all born HUMAN.  Not even your God has the right to take away the rights of a newly born child, just because he's of a different race, etc. etc. etc. 

I'm miffed at my friends, tbh.

Xer0 \^/

Reply #1719 Top

Quoting Xer07, reply 1718
Alright, Whiskey. I'll two of your birds with one stone: in order to overcome this, you are going to lose something.

You say people used to live for several centuries several thousands of years ago, therefore, the records from then are highly accurate and reputable.  Well, in several ancient societies' records, there are records of "men who came from the sky" and hyrogliphics of such men as well. SEVERAL. THOUSAND. YEARS. AGO.  If you believe ppl actually lived this long, you therefore must also believe that SOMETHING of unhuman origin visited mankind in it's infancy. 

Similarly; yes, we are all born different, but we are also all born HUMAN.  Not even your God has the right to take away the rights of a newly born child, just because he's of a different race, etc. etc. etc. 

I'm miffed at my friends, tbh.

Xer0 \^/
End of Xer07's quote

My view of inequality is based on the fact that not everyone does the same job (indeed, not everyone is even CAPABLE of doing the same job/all jobs), not everyone has the same resources, and not everyone is born in the same circumstances. It has nothing to do with skin color, ethnicity, religion, or anything of that sort.

In fact, I could accuse you of being rascist by saying that there are different races of humankind. I'm not going to because I 1) I have insufficient data to extrapolate such a conclusion and 2) You have provided no evidence that you are in fact, rascist. But the fact is there is no such thing as a "white race" or a "black race" ad nauseum.

As for your statements about "men from the sky"-

1. Please provide the names and duration of said ancient societies, the time during which they existed, as well as any records which pertain to your claim. To prevent myself from being accused of no source, I offer up the Bible, specifically the book of Genesis, as my source. Methusaleh lived many thousands of years ago (like at most a millenium after the creation of the universe). In fact, I'm pretty sure his lifespan occured in an era that predated much of ancient civilization as we understand it.

2. I won't deny the possibility of "men who come from the sky" visiting said civilizations. To say something is impossible invariably invites proof that it is in fact possible. I will say that it is highly improbable and highly implausible. After all, if sentient alien life is abundant, then why would aliens take interest in a small blue sphere with some primitive ape-people who like to kill each other. Unless of course they have some kind of god complex.

3. So what if we're all born human. That doesn't mean people treat each other like it. The world is a harsh place where bad things happen to nice people all the time.

4. Explain WHY you're miffed at your friends.

 

"A suspicious mind is a healthy mind."

Reply #1720 Top

*sigh*

I had MORE GREAT NEWS, but this has to come first.

1. The Egyptian Empire, the Nazca Empire, the Easter Island Statues, and several references in the Old Testament and the book of Genesis.  UFO's (notably, with people staring at them in fear or awe) can also be found in numerous rennaissance art pieces. 

2. A theory is that they are native to here, another is that they genetically engineered the human race, and yet another is that old classic, "They're looking for a new home".  Do I look like the extraterrestriologist in the room?

3.  Yes, I do agree there.

4.  Simply because they expect me to be who they want me to be, when they want me to be that, and HOW they want me to be.  I used to play that card, but now it's getting to be annoying.

Xer0 \^/

Reply #1721 Top

And now, FANTASTIC NEWS FOR ALL FANS OF CODE GEASS!

A new anime series, currently called Code Geass Gaiden: Bōkoku no Akito, has been set to be announced, AKA previewed to refine upon by professionals, this Friday. AKA: Today, save 5 minutes or so.  This side story of the anime is set to take place in the European front of war, focusing on a unit sent into battle with a 5% survival rate.  We are unaware of the time setting ATM.  So, if it takes place as the events of Code: Geass, Lelouch of the Rebellion and R2 take place, there will be no C.C., Lelouch, Kallen, or Shirley there.  They will be missed. 

Just figured I'd let you know. I plan on setting up a new post so we can discuss this there w/out clogging this game.

Xer0 \^/

Reply #1722 Top

Somehow, I knew Whiskey disappeared for so long just to gather Ammo.  I've moved on for tonight, might read all that tomorrow.  I been making a reference chart for sins.  (TEC section nearly finished, I posted it.)

Xer0, again I say good luck.

-Twilight Storm | My life for the Dahkri

Reply #1723 Top

Quoting Xer07, reply 1720
*sigh*

I had MORE GREAT NEWS, but this has to come first.

1. The Egyptian Empire, the Nazca Empire, the Easter Island Statues, and several references in the Old Testament and the book of Genesis.  UFO's (notably, with people staring at them in fear or awe) can also be found in numerous rennaissance art pieces. 

2. A theory is that they are native to here, another is that they genetically engineered the human race, and yet another is that old classic, "They're looking for a new home".  Do I look like the extraterrestriologist in the room?

3.  Yes, I do agree there.

4.  Simply because they expect me to be who they want me to be, when they want me to be that, and HOW they want me to be.  I used to play that card, but now it's getting to be annoying.

Xer0 \^/
End of Xer07's quote

1. Please provide the approximate age of the artifacts in question, the references in the Bible, your definition of a UFO (just because it's "unindentified" doesn't mean it's aliens), and the names of said art pieces. Also include the eras the aforementioned empires existed in, and any evidence that leads you to believe that the Easter Island Statues are referring to alien visitors.

2a. If they're natives then they're human. My explanation is that God spread man across the galaxy/universe (or a portion of the galaxy), and allowed some portions of the human race to advance far faster than others.

2b. False on the grounds of why would any sentient species engineer what could become a competitor for resources.

2c. Then they can shove off because Earth is property of humankind.

2d. I don't know, do you look like that?

3. I'll take what I can get then.

4. Then f*ck 'em. I don't do that, and neither should you IMO. If anything, start playing the "I'm uber-introverted and don't care about you" card (except for when in contact with your crush; after all, she sounds like a winner for you. I really hope you end up with her.). Alternately start doing freaky stuff around them (and them alone) to drive them off. Then proceed to NOT tell Mishayla about it; it isn't really her problem now is it.

 

"A suspicious mind is a healthy mind."

Reply #1724 Top

Quoting Xer07, reply 1721
And now, FANTASTIC NEWS FOR ALL FANS OF CODE GEASS!

A new anime series, currently called Code Geass Gaiden: Bōkoku no Akito, has been set to be announced, AKA previewed to refine upon by professionals, this Friday. AKA: Today, save 5 minutes or so.  This side story of the anime is set to take place in the European front of war, focusing on a unit sent into battle with a 5% survival rate.  We are unaware of the time setting ATM.  So, if it takes place as the events of Code: Geass, Lelouch of the Rebellion and R2 take place, there will be no C.C., Lelouch, Kallen, or Shirley there.  They will be missed. 



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Just figured I'd let you know. I plan on setting up a new post so we can discuss this there w/out clogging this game.

Xer0 \^/
End of Xer07's quote

This is wonderful news!

Quoting Twilight_Storm, reply 1722
Somehow, I knew Whiskey disappeared for so long just to gather Ammo.  I've moved on for tonight, might read all that tomorrow.  I been making a reference chart for sins.  (TEC section nearly finished, I posted it.)

Xer0, again I say good luck.

-Twilight Storm | My life for the Dahkri
End of Twilight_Storm's quote

You'd be surprised how easy it is for me to gather ammo; plus I was at Tae Kwon Do class.

Incidentally, you'd also be surprised about the number of '40k sayings that make quite a bit of sense.

 

"A suspicious mind is a healthy mind."

Reply #1725 Top

Read it. All I have to say is that a definition is required to argue either side.  If you do not have a definition, you have nothing to argue against.

The definition you did offer was very vague.

By relieving pain, I mean exactly what I said.  I've relived back pain, headaches, joint pain, and a few times instanses where the pain was caused by concussive force.  (Being hit by something)  Both in myself and others, at a touch, over no more than 30 seconds to a minute.  Not applying pressure to dull the pain, I mean a light touch, barely contact.  I can't heal a wound, and I'm not entirely sure that's even possible, but I will not say it's not.

-Twilight Storm | My life for the Dahkri