Yet another lie, in poor taste as well:

As a Physician, I can inform all the wing nuts out there that for the past 30+ years I've had talks with patients and their familes when it was clear that things were headed "the way of all flesh", and also with HEALTHY patients regarding Living Wills, Health Care Proxies, etc.

Normal people (i.e. non wing nut H. sapiens) have feelings about certain types of "dire straights" they might find themselves in and welcome the chance to discuss "non fluff" subjects with loved ones.

It was due to one of these conversations I had with my late wife (long before there were problems) around the children, inviting them to participate as thinking, feeling individuals (and an appropriate mental/emotional age) that allowed me to separate her from "life" support without feelings of guilt.

Really. It's time for the birther/wing nuts to get a grip or get therapy. Whichever, American Health Insurance needs revamping.

And Huckabee needs to learn about what he's shooting his face off about.

Just in case you didn't get the fun thing about this:  Check headlines of BOTH articles: The first and the last one.

Yeah...that sums it up pretty good.

Wing Nuts and Moon Bats. It's all good.

Note, Huckabee is not a conservative.  He's pro-life and a proponent of the fair tax, end of conservative credentials.  He is not fiscally responsible, and does not demonstrate anything resembling social conservatism either.  All talk, no walk.  Discretional spending went through the roof while he was governor.  Typical tax and spend compassionate conservative nonsense, it's called progressivism.  He's as liberal as the republicans in the Senate are.

Not everyone. Just a has been fear monger and in such poor taste,

Wing nut (left or right) is a guy/gal who's out there where the busses ain't runnin'. You know...a few tacos short of an enchilada.

Saying "Kennedy would have been urged to die under 'ObamaCare' " is demogoguery of the lowest order. It is also a complete LIE:

1) The President has NOT put forward a health INSURANCE reform bill.

2) The Republican fear mongering LIE about "Death Panels" (already proven pure BS) is nothing less than "Big Lie" tactic used by their Health Insurance Co. bought legislators to whip up a panic storm.

3) Only the bought, paid for and corrupt are trying to torpedo this needed legislation.

Answer this:

If Gov't. run health care is so bad, why did McConnell, McCain and the rest of them use Bethesda for their surgery for Cancer and Coronary Bypasses? Wouldn't they have gotten good care in the private sector? Why did they choose Gov't run Bethesda?

And if their insurance is so bad, how come they ain't using BCBS or UHC or any other private insurance?

I'm fairly sure A: We pay for their care and B: Bethesda is the designated hospital of choice for their insurance group. Hell, Obama would go there as well.

Why do you think there was such complaint when it came out that Congress would be exempt from the currently debated plan, keeping the insanely good plan they already have without any of the reform they want us to swallow?

I'm not any of those things, and I strongly oppose this "legislation".

So which am I then?

This is the problem with people on the left, they don't understand what this is all about.  Conservatives don't oppose health care reform, we oppose government takeover.  Why?  Because the government can't run anything.  They screwed up a simple rebate program for cars, and you want them running healthcare?

The fact is the majority of American's have good health care, and they know enough not to get the government more involved then they already are. 

Obama and the rest of them are exempt.  Do you really think they will be forced to be on a government plan?  LOL

The guys who showed up ay healthcare rallies in NM with M-16's are self-professed terrorists. They claim the American Revolutionaries were terrorists and want to model themselves after them. This of course was a declaration of war. And the poor schmuck who got his finger bitten off yesterday? He threw the first punch. He should be glad he only lost one finger. Kent State, JKF, MLK, Unibomber, Oklahoma...we know where this is headed. The anti-government politicians have their base in a tissy.

 Island Dog did you participate in the Cash for Clunkers program? Because the data I've heard states very clearly that even though reimbersments have been slow the dealers were more than happy with the program. You know the people who were tarined by the Reagan era will never have anyhting good to say about the government. So it's pointless to argue. But at some point, Island Dog, you are going to be mistreated by an insurance company and you will have no recourse. And I hope you're man enough to share your experience.

This is a pretty sensitive issue for nearly everyone, and this may not be the best place to discuss it. I'd rather be asking Island Dog when the beta is coming now that it's the 4th, instead of about health care.

True true true. If Stardock would answer my questions about the game I wouldn't be in this stupid thread.