lol, this is turning out to be more fun then I thought!

First of all, my first PC game was Dune 2: The Building of a Dynasty, I bought that game in 1993. I also bought every C&C ever made except for Sole Survivor, C&C 3 and Red Alert 3.

Yes the graphics are from the 1990's, that why they are uber crappy right now! Also the gameplay sucks!

True that not all units are the same, but most units are copy of one another!

The C&Cs are getting crappier every year, although I did not buy C&C3 & Red Alert 3, I did play them at a friend and the devs should be ashamed of ever releasing those games. The gameplay is boring/stupid (parachuting BEARS) and it seems to me that most of the budget went to the actors that did the cutscenes!

You are right, the core gameplay as been around since the first one, thats the problem...

Compairing to Halo 3???, WTF are you talking about?? lol, I would compare Generals to Act of War, a much, much better game in every way!

I am clearly very young and I have never played these games before... WRONG, I bought every one of those games the day they came out, BTW I am 32!!! and I have been PC gaming since 1993.

I do believe that the original C&C was very good, and I will continu to say that it was a benchmark in PC gaming for many years! BUT having played these games in 2009, I can clearly say that they suck TODAY!

Bottom line is, C&C, Red Alert & Tiberian Sun are very crappy by today's standards and I recommend playing them only if you have nothing better to do!

Those games have aged very badly!

You clearly are a C&C fanboy!, if mediocrity is your thing then who am I to stand in your way!

I for one decided not to buy any other EA games.

lol, you just made my day! Thank you!

Your day has been made by someone pointing out that your posting style is that of a child...? I'm not entirely sure why you'd be happy that, at 32, your writing makes people think of a teenage fanboy?

Anyhoo, the fact that you're pleased by writing large number of question marks and exclaimation marks in sequence, then having it pointed out that you're apparently a grown adult and should really know better, is irrelevant.

The point is, stop trying to convince people that the original C&C games suck, and not to play them. They don't suck, and it's stupid to buy a game and then never play it. Just because standards have risen, it does not make what came before crap all of a sudden. The original C&C and Red Alert are still great games, because what is good and what is bad is not defined by similar things placed out of any chronological context.

That opinion just assumes that any product of any kind which is past a certain date in its history must automatically be rubbish. That's not logical or accurate. Players will still have a lot of fun playing the original C&C games - they did before, there's no reason they shouldn't now. Many people I do still do.

I'll just re-iterate the point that no, 'most of the units' are not a copy of one another. The minigunner and rocket guy are the ONLY units which GDI and NOD share, or in Red Alert, which the Allies and Soviets share. Many of the buildings are the same, but that just makes logical sense. I suppose you could say that the Humvee and Dune Buggy are similar, because they serve similar scouting roles. Still makes your statement cack.

Your points about Red Alert 3 may well be true, I can't say as I haven't played it. I hate what's been done by EA to the C&C franchises - they've pretty much raped part of my youth away, and I absolutely hated everything I saw about Red Alert 3 (though I enjoy C&C 3 and think it's far superior because at least the storyline's still serious). So no, again you're wrong - I'm by no means a C&C fanboy. Quite the opposite in fact - I didn't like Generals (it simply wasn't C&C) and aren't a big fan of the new ones. The originals are still the best, and as such the whole point of this discussion remains: the orignal poster should most definitely play all of the First Decade, because if he doesn't he will miss out on some great entertainment and a fantastic piece of gaming history.

WOW, back so soon!!!!!

YiddoBobbins, you typed lots of pretty words just for me, so nice of you!

BTW, my writing "style" is none of your concern! My opinion on the subject is just as valid as yours and nothing you can say or do can make me believe that the old C&C games are fun to play in 09. I found them boring, slow, and uninspiring. Nostalgia is the only reason someone would want to replay them, MOST people new to PC gaming will find that those games suck. Its like saying that DOOM is still a good game, its not. Its old and pass its time. I could not get any fun out of those old games. Its time to put the pass behind us and look forward to the future (Starcraft 2).

You accuse me trying to convince people not to play those games, but that is far from the truth. My post was a warning that the earlier games havent aged well, and that today they suck, nothing more.

As for the units, I still think that they are copies of one another, maybe they increased the number of hit points from the medium tank to create the heavy tank, but thats about it. Minor changes from one unit to another does not constitute variety in my book.

You did not like Generals, I think it is one of the best C&C out there. It was new, fun and from a creative perspective; original. It tried to separate itself from the old C&C and that was a good thing. I've got to give EA  credit for at least trying something diffetent.

I'm a huge Generals fan, but Act of War had the most boring demo.  I can't get myself to buy it.

I've still gone back and played tiberian sun(+firestorm) from time to time, but the original C&C+Red alert are too aged for my liking for me to want to replay them. If you're intending to play them all, I'd play them in order of age though, since once you're used to the fancy new graphics you'll hate the old ones even more (not to mention there will be some gameplay features that you'll be used to on the later ones that will be missing on the earlier ones, making it even harder to adjust). If you're not so bothered then I'd probably start with tiberian sun - the graphics are poor by todays standards, but you can still have a fair amount of fun with it and it doesn't make my eyes hurt. I'd pick out Yuri's revenge as being one of the best ones, although I also really like Zero Hour's general challenges.

I have nothing to gain either.  I have way too many games already.

(Along with plenty of other older games that seemed interesting but I never actually played.)

I disagree, you do have something to gain; one amazing RTS. If you are not ready to spent 8 tiny dollars for a great game then its your choice. The campaign alone is worth more than 8$.

I really dont understand why people continu to accept mediocrity (C&C). They are ready to pay large sums of money for anything C&C, but when something better comes along, they disregard it as inferior just because it doesn't have the C&C logo on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vIKHnX4gnE

http://reviews.cnet.com/pc-games/act-of-war-direct/4505-9696_7-31321174.html

Go buy it, and experience Act of War for yourselves. Play through the entire campaign, experience an incredible/superior RTS. If you liked C&C, you're gonna love Act of War!

To add some detail to that statement, I think Advent Rising is one of the best games I've ever played.  I don't go tell people to buy it because I'm sure plenty of them will disagree with me.  I'm sure there are plenty of people who would tell me turn based strategy is the only way to fly.  Same with world war 2 games.  I can't stand either type, except in rare cases.

The fact is, that ship is sailed.  Most people who actually wanted to buy Act of War already did.  You'll have a bitch of a time convincing anyone who doesn't have any solid evidence (like a demo that doesn't suck, which doesn't exist) that they need to buy it.

And I didn't like C&C2 or 3.  The Red Alert games are all good though, too bad I waited eight months before giving RA3 a shot, but C&C3 was so disappointing that it just happened that way.  Still, the day I consider $30-$50 to be 'large sums of money' is the day I go shoot myself in the head.

unfortunately the new CnC will require an active internet connection....even for single player.

Another one to throw onto the "don't buy" pile.