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Okay, now even though i'm a Kerry supporter, there is no way he'll win Ohio. So, I've heard 2008 rumors, Clinton, JEB, McCain, obama (UNLIKELY) etc. So what is your thoughts on who you want to win.
Me-- Maybe Edwards/Clinton?
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Reply #1 from PolMach Forums Top
Here's a full list:
candidates for 2008
Democrats
Evan Bayh, U.S. Senator and former Governor, Indiana
Rod Blagojevich, Governor of Illinois
Bill Bradley, former U.S. Senator, New Jersey; 2000 nomination candidate
Hillary Clinton, U.S. Senator, New York
Wesley Clark, retired Army General and former NATO Supreme Allied Commander; 2004 nomination candidate
Jon Corzine, U.S. Senator, New Jersey
Richard M. Daley, Mayor of Chicago
Tom Daschle, U.S. Senate Minority Leader, South Dakota
Howard Dean, former Governor of Vermont; 2004 nomination candidate Presidential nomination
Richard Durbin, U.S. Senator, Illinois
John Edwards, 2004 Vice Presidential nominee, and outgoing U.S. Senator for North Carolina (as of 2004); 2004 nomination candidate
Russ Feingold, U.S. Senator, Wisconsin
Harold Ford, Jr., U.S. Congressman, Tennessee
Al Gore, former Vice President and 2000 Presidential nominee
Joe Kernan, Governor of Indiana
John Kerry, 2004 Presidential nominee and U.S. Senator, Massachussets
Mary Landrieu, U.S. Senator, Louisiana
Blanche Lincoln, U.S. Senator, Arkansas
Janet Napolitano, Governor of Arizona
Gavin Newsom, Mayor of San Francisco
Barack Obama, Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in Illinois (as of 2004)
Nancy Pelosi, U.S. House of Representatives Minority Leader, California
Ed Rendell, Governor of Pennsylvania
Bill Richardson, Governor of New Mexico
Charles Schumer, U.S. Senator, New York
Eliot Spitzer, Attorney-General of New York
Mark Warner, Governor of Virginia
Republicans
George Allen, Jr., U.S. Senator, Virginia
John Ashcroft, U.S. Attorney General and former U.S. Senator, Missouri
Haley Barbour, Governor of Mississippi
George W. Bush, current President, will be eligible if he loses in 2004 (see also Possible Constitutional amendments below)
Jeb Bush, Governor of Florida
Elizabeth Dole, U.S. Senator, North Carolina; 2000 nomination candidate
Bob Ehrlich, Governor of Maryland
Bill Frist, U.S. Senate Majority Leader, Tennessee
Rudy Giuliani, former Mayor of New York City
Lindsey Graham, U.S. Senator, South Carolina
Chuck Hagel, U.S. Senator, Nebraska
Kay Bailey Hutchison, U.S. Senator, Texas
John McCain, U.S. Senator, Arizona; 2000 nomination candidate
Bill Owens, Governor of Colorado
Rick Perry, Governor of Texas
George Pataki, Governor of New York
Colin Powell, U.S. Secretary of State
Dan Quayle, former Vice President; 2000 nomination candidate
Condoleezza Rice, National Security Advisor
Tom Ridge, U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security and former Governor of Pennsylvania
Mitt Romney, Governor of Massachusetts
Gordon Smith, U.S. Senator, Oregon
Tommy Thompson, U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services and former Governor of Wisconsin
Greens
Peter Camejo, businessman
David Cobb, lawyer and activist, and nominee for President in 2004
Matt Gonzalez, president of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors
Winona LaDuke, activist and nominee for Vice President in 1996 and 2000
Pat LaMarche, activist and nominee for Vice President in 2004
Libertarians
Michael Badnarik, 2004 Presidential nominee
Michael Cloud, speechwriter
Michael Colley, retired Navy Admiral
James Gray, judge
Carla Howell, management consultant
Gary Nolan, radio host
Ron Paul, Republican Congressman, Texas
Aaron Russo, entertainment businessman
L. Neil Smith, science fiction writer
Ed Thompson, former Mayor of Tomah, Wisconsin
Other parties and independents
Pat Buchanan, America First, commentator and former Presidential candidate
Roy Moore, Constitution Party, former Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama
Ralph Nader, activist and former Presidential candidate
Jesse Ventura, former Governor of Minnesota and Professional Wrestler It is also conceivable that a candidate for a major party nomination that did not win that nomination might seek the presidency as an other party or independent candidate; contemporary examples include John Anderson, Republican nomination candidate and Independent general election candidate in the 1980 election, and Buchanan, Republican nomination candidate and then Reform Party general election candidate in the 2000 election.
Possible Constitutional amendments
There has been some discussion recently of amending the Constitution to remove the absolute requirement that only natural-born citizens may become President. If such a change occurred in time for the 2008 elections, possible candidates who are naturalized citizens would include Democratic Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm, born in Canada, Democratic former Secretary of State Madeline Albright, born in Czechoslovakia, and Republican California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, born in Austria.

The possible repeal or amendment of Amendment XXII has also come under some discussion. One proposal would allow a President to serve only two consecutive terms but seek to return after a respite. The only living former president who has served two terms is Bill Clinton. If George W. Bush won re-election in 2004, and sentiments across party lines looked favorably on a contest between him and Bill Clinton in 2008, a change to this term limit might find support.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hell, i'll throw in the hat. I am considering running for the democratic ticket in 2008. Sandy2 For President. How doesthat sound?

Obama won't win for sure... I hate to bring race into it but I feel a black senator could not get elected in this country right now. Maybe in 20 years.
Granholm won't run.

About that amendment- I would rather not have Clinton eligible if it would mean that Bush was eligible for re-election again. Thank god for term limits.
Reply #4 from PolMach Forums Top
Obama won't win for sure... I hate to bring race into it but I feel a black senator could not get elected in this country right now. Maybe in 20 years.


I think if the Dems lose in 08, Obama will be the nomenie in 2012; if they win in 08 then obama will be the nomenie in 2016!
Reply #5 from PolMach Forums Top
Reasons why these people will not run.
Tom Daschle, U.S. Senate Minority Leader, South Dakota: Lost; says hw won't run
Joe Kernan, Governor of Indiana: lost

Dan Quayle, former Vice President; 2000 nomination candidate: won't run again
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
One proposal would allow a President to serve only two consecutive terms but seek to return after a respite. The only living former president who has served two terms is Bill Clinton. If George W. Bush won re-election in 2004, and sentiments across party lines looked favorably on a contest between him and Bill Clinton in 2008, a change to this term limit might find support.


The way the amendment is worded here is that you would have to take time off after your two consecutive terms (respite)--that would mean Bush couldn't oppose Clinton in 2008 even if the amendment passed because he wouldn't have taken any time off...
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Besides, if were talking about it, Jimmy Carter or George Bush the first, could come and run again for their second term, not likely, but it's happened before.
Reply #8 from PolMach Forums Top
Besides, if were talking about it, Jimmy Carter or George Bush the first, could come and run again for their second term, not likely, but it's happened before.


I don't think it will happen because if they ran and won they would die in office from the stress or old age (both are up there in years)!!

Death by Hamsters Plinko!!
Reply #9 from PolMach Forums Top
Maybe 90 ehat 3, 4, 5 year old Ford will run? And Mondale and and whatever.
Reply #10 from PolMach Forums Top
Than it will be a case of where the election revolves completely around on who the VP is.

Death by Gerbils Plinko!!
Reply #11 from PolMach Forums Top
If I were a betting man I would put my money on an Edwards v Jeb Bush match-up, placing more money on Jeb to run than anyone in the field. I would put odds at about 90%. If his brother can mess up this much and not have it work against him, then nothing will. There is no way that Dems will nominate Hillary. She would galvanize the enemy base against her even more than what her husband would.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Go Hillary Go!
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
Or maybe we should just elect a black lesbian....
Reply #14 from PolMach Forums Top
Or maybe we should just elect a black lesbian....


What party-- maybe Condi Rice is secrety one!
Reply #15 from PolMach Forums Top
Okay how 'bout a poll- If the 2008 election was today who would who vote for?
Reply #16 from PolMach Forums Top
Wow. Nice comprehensive list. Although its hard to see many of those candidates (Bill Bradley....remember how poor his 2000 showing was?)

As a republican, I'd love to see a long, bitter Democratic primary, featuring heavyweights Kerry, Gore, and Hillary Clinton. Those three would tear each other to shreds long before November 2008 rolled around.
Reply #17 from PolMach Forums Top
Bill Bradley....remember how poor his 2000 showing was?)


Yeah, i know but I'm a Jersey Dem. and Bradley one of my favorite senators of all time!
Reply #18 from PolMach Forums Top
I suspect Gephardt will run again. He's had a lot of experience over the years, and ran several times before, but never made it past the primaries. Plus he seems to be still young (what? early 50s-ish), and has time for a few more kicks at the can. I don't know if he will actually win the primaries though.

For Republicans, McCain all the way!

Oh, and with that amendment that lets people not born in the US run--Go Granholm! A canuck in the white house has to be good for Canada-US relations
Reply #19 from PolMach Forums Top
What the top 4 best bets do you think?
Dems: Hillary, Edwards, Richardson, and Dean or Clark
Rebs: Jeb, McCain, Giuliani, Frist
Reply #20 from PolMach Forums Top
For Republicans, McCain all the way!


I think He would win if Jeb dosn't run/does poorly. Anyway McCain would then win the election because he attracts Dems and Independants as well.
Reply #21 from PolMach Forums Top
I think He would win if Jeb dosn't run/does poorly. Anyway McCain would then win the election because he attracts Dems and Independants as well.



Yeah...he's practically more popular with Dems than Republicans, which ain't exactly that great for him in the primaries.
Reply #22 from PolMach Forums Top
Would McCain take a Dem VP nomanion this time?
And Corizne will not run for President he will run for Govener of NJ (Yay!) in 2005. I'll hopefully be in that campain.
Reply #23 from PolMach Forums Top
It's going to come down to Giuliani and McCain for the Republicans. Jeb isn't gonna run, he's been certain about it. Giuliani has too, but his actions speak differently.
I personally think that a McCain/Giuliani ticket would be an unstopable powerhouse. Being a Dem myself, there really are no strong Democratic candidates. Some really good ones, but none that could beat either of the above. Personally, I think it would be smarter for the Dem's to forget about the White House for the next four years and wage a better war to regain the Hill. Leaving the White House to McCain and/or Giuliani is a good way for the Dem's to mount a comeback. Both are moderate Republicans who have power in their base but definatly have the respect of the left. We know they would cross the party lines. If the Dem's had control of the Hill, or at least the House or Senate, then it would make for a productive 4 years, that would probably lead to 4 more, putting us at the 2016 elections, in which both sides would have better candidates. Following this senario though would give the Dem's an advangtage in 2016 because a majority of the legislation would be bipartisian, but still Democrat in nature. Of course, this all hinges on the above holding true. If McCain and Giuliani don't run, then it's anyone's game!!!
Reply #24 from PolMach Forums Top
2016! Dammit! I have to wait 12 more years now!
Reply #25 from PolMach Forums Top
Even if there is no good Dem Candidates; don't you think Hillary or Edwards would have more South Support and change it from so Republican to more Demorcatic?