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Hate Speech - or Joke?

Hate Speech - or Joke?

Just recently, San Cho posted this Photoshop picture of Sarah Palin in a KKK uniform in the comment section of my blog.

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I personally condemn the picture and I can't find any humor in it.  My question is simple. Does anyone else condemn this?

And who supports it? I have joked around with photoshop pictures before, but I have never put anyone in a Hitler or KKK uniform because that goes beyond being a joke and crosses over into the realms of full blown hate speech.

 

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Reply #51 Top

Damn Snidley!

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Reply #52 Top

Then what you 'all know' is wrong. The Klan was originally created as a merely fraternal organization. It later became militant during the reconstruction era after the civil war, led by an ex Confederate General named Nathan Bedford Forrest.

 

 Your facts are wrong lady! Your speaking of the second version of the Klan. As far as it original purpose? It was to promote white supremacy in the aftermath of the American Civil War. Get your facts straight. Geez. And a fraternal organization? Cmon liitle whip, your not that naive are you. haha.

 

@SanChonino....... Skinhit doen't have to do anything. I think your a "little-whipped" it sounds like haha.

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Reply #53 Top

Your facts are wrong lady! Your speaking of the second version of the Klan

Thank you!

k5  

As far as it original purpose? It was to promote white supremacy in the aftermath of the American Civil War. Get your facts straight

At least don't take bunch of lies with you to your deathbed!

Thanx PJD!

:thumbsup:  

 

Reply #54 Top

@SanChonino....... Skinhit doen't have to do anything. I think your a "little-whipped" it sounds like haha.

 

Thank you also PDJ!

Reply #55 Top

You can dress Obama in a Black Panther beret and patch, you can put Biden in a Klan outfit, hells - you could put Nader in whatever silly politically charged outfit you want.

Does the connection have to make sense?

For example, if somebody put Nader in the outfit of an ambulance chaser, I would think it's hilarious (because he is a lawyer). But if somebody made him out to be a new Hitler, I wouldn't think it's funny, because I don't see a connection.

 

Reply #56 Top

Nasty little cuss, ain't she?

 

More like,.... whatever it takes to stay in the spotlight. O:)

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The Klan was originally created as a merely fraternal organization. It later became militant during the reconstruction era after the civil war, led by an ex Confederate General named Nathan Bedford Forrest.

Your facts are wrong lady! Your speaking of the second version of the Klan. As far as it original purpose? It was to promote white supremacy in the aftermath of the American Civil War. Get your facts straight. Geez. And a fraternal organization? Cmon liitle whip, your not that naive are you. haha.

She wasn't talking about the second version of the Klan, unless you believe that was the one that "became militant during the reconstruction era after the civil war".

She says the Klan was a fraternal organisation that became militant during the reconstruction era and was led by an ex-Confederate general.

You say it was an organisation to promote white supremacy in the aftermath of the Civil War. I can see how she got her facts "wrong".

Except that she didn't. She was just a bit more precise than you.

In fact I know few people who know more about the Klan than LW. And it was a fraternal organisation. They do see themselves as brothers.

As for the white supremacist views of the Klan... well, duh. Excellent work, Sherlock! (In fact the SECOND version of the Klan was more into that than the first, but that is perhaps beside the point.)

I still don't see why it is funny to imply a connection between Palin and the KKK. The KKK _hate_ George Bush and his policies; they certainly don't like John McCain, and a _woman_ politician married to an Eskimo is certainly not to their liking. Plus the KKK are not really into the idea of powerful women and Sarah Palin is too much on McCain's side. And what about handicapped children? What do you think is the KKK's view on handicapped children of white women and Eskimos?

 

 

Reply #58 Top

The point (which so many of you numbnuts missed) was that the Klan was not originally formed 'to support slavery'. Slavery was already dead and gone by the war's end...

HIS-STORY: And it is so painfully obvious from this rather bias analogy that you don't have a single ounce of Black History in you!  Not a clue.  I knew you wouldn't attempt to read "Conclave From Kokomo," because had you done so, we wouldn't be here.  Thus you can believe what you want, but the truth is there.

Yet you have such insight about the plight of people you refuse to know.

Do you even know what the lyrics to "Wade In The Water" mean?  Ever hear of the "Midnight Raiders?"  Your chronology is distorted.

Study the truth and not someone else's bedtime story, because right about now, this is so disgusting, I'm going no further with this.

Blatant and willful ignorance is a shame, but attempting to open eyes which wants to remain shut is a bigger shame.  I guess terrorists don't exist until a plane knocks a tower down.

which so many of you numbnuts missed

Just call me by my slave name Toby

Signed; 

Kunta Kinte

For Leauki and LittleWhip who knows US history better than anyone:  Ignorance is not bliss kids

Born poor in Chapel Hill, Tenn., in 1821, Forrest amassed a fortune as a plantation owner and slave trader, importing Africans long after the practice had been made illegal. At 40, he enlisted as a private in the Confederate army at the outset of the Civil War, rising to a cavalry general in a year.

 

I find it hilarious how you completely ignore everything she says and then simply fall into a discussion about black studies.

Nah partner, what's hilarious is your inept ability to see no further than your own nose!  And it obvious they don't teach no better in Ireland, so you can keep your low opinion.  How in the world can you tell someone to study when you don't?  Your ignorance is comical.  Now go on and jump on another soapbox!

 

Oh, the above info was written by a white woman, so there goes your bias black history theory

May I suggest that you study further on subject matters that you have no clue about rather than speaking from stupidity

 

 

 

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Reply #59 Top

His name is not Toby

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Do you even know what the lyrics to "Wade In The Water" mean?  Ever hear of the "Midnight Raiders?"  Your chronology is distorted.

I find it hilarious how you completely ignore everything she says and then simply fall into a discussion about black studies.

It is your chronology that is distorted. She is talking about the reconstruction era, after the Civil War. Slavery was outlawed at that point.

"Wade In The Water" I understand is a 20th century song referring to Moses and his people. The urban legend about those songs being coded messages for fugitive slaves is perhaps what you are referring to. Is that what they teach in universities these days?

(Do you believe that fugitive slaves needed to be told that they should walk in water to escape hounds? It's not rocket science and slaves probably knew a lot more about blood hounds than those who later tried to find coded meaning in their songs.)

I think you studied black history too much and forgot about common sense. Studying anything that is specific to black or white people is stupid. Try studying history instead of black history.

 

 

Reply #61 Top

Just call me by my slave name Toby

Congratulations. You have ancestors that were victims of slavery.

So do I.

Neither of us have done anything to deserve those ancestors. Please don't speak to anyone as if ancestry was relevant!

 

Reply #62 Top

Your break will come at the same time OURS does, when Brad gets enough complaints about the forced crossposting between sites to seperate these disparate communties like they used to be. Trust me, those of us who enjoy discussing politics are as sick of being force-fed your skinning crap as you are of being involuntarily exposed to our political debates.

 

Please don't swim in our toilet. We do not piss in your swimming pool...

Reply #63 Top

I loathe the forced crossposting mainly because I'm not always 'nice' (as you've seen) and I find you artsy-fartsy types far too delicate and emotionally retarded to play with.

in other words your saying that you are a selfish asshole that has to be a dick to us skinners because we don't care for the topics that cross here? get off you damn soap-box.

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Reply #64 Top

Prolly not....so never mind.

thats just the problem with you fucking trolls. You have to continue your bullshit mouth time after time after time.

Yeah, Brad needs to get JU off of WC, on that I think we ALL agree. However that does NOT give you a gold card to bash the mentality of people that like to customize their PC's as opposed to waging a word war for fun now does it.

 

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Reply #65 Top

Nothing changes here. Same few names, same abusive attitude.

Reply #66 Top

Little whip is harsh but she is right.  You are in their house now. If you don't like it, it's just a click to get out. Until Brad seperates the 2 sites this will always be an issue. I can understand them being sick of seeing skinning related stuff on their blogsite as is we get sick of listening to people ranting about absolutely nothing that matters.

 

Besides, WC is a little too goody goody. All the drama has been used and redone and so on. At least JU'ers offer fresh Drama. :grin:

It is the politically correct against the politically incorrect. }:)

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At least JU'ers offer fresh Drama.

Our own little Peyton Place. ;)

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Little whip is harsh but she is right. You are in their house now. If you don't like it, it's just a click to get out. Until Brad seperates the 2 sites this will always be an issue

 Exactly so!

It is the politically correct against the politically incorrect.

I find the politically incorrect more comfortable! O:)

Reply #69 Top

The pictures should be condemned.  Not on the basis of "Hate Speech" (which is really a  term to justify thought police) but on the basis to demean and smear another person's character.  And to associate them with persons and/or groups who have been condemed in the past/present for their actions aganist the rest of humanity.

The costumes and/or scenes within either picture are not meant as "jokes".  How an individual can attempt to argue otherwise is beyond me.  As far as I'm concerned they're outright attacks who have joinged with others to assualt Palin in one way or another for either being a mother, a mother of five, a mother of a child with Down's Syndrome (some media members even made attacks against the child himself), pro-gun responsibility, pro-life, Christian, and a social conservative.

The major news media outlets with their love affair with Sen. Barack Obama and his socialist  history & sordid voting record does just fine without anyone else joining in on the smear campaigns focused on Gov. Sarah Palin.  All this does is make light of the American responsibility to vote within an informed manner. 

Reply #70 Top

Please keep a civil tone when addressing other users.  This forum is open to all, and since it is the Internet category, it is not limited to customization topic strictly.  It is not up to individual users to police these forums or tell other users whether or not they should post or whether or not they belong.  That is a call left to Stardock site administrators.  If you have a problem with a post or a comment, use the Report feature and we will see it and address it if we see fit.

If a thread bothers you, you are encouraged to close the browser and not read it.  We don't want to get into the habit of censoring content on these forums to avoid anyone being offended.

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Reply #71 Top

k5   to little-whip for fending off the ankle-biters and thought police

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Reply #72 Top

My 2 cents?

There's a growing community of users of "Phoney Umbrage", and folks just looking for a reason to be "offended". Most of it based on one "entitlement" or another. The main reason for it though is profit of one kind or another.

Who cares about silly Photoshopped crap on the net? Laugh at it or shake your head....but move on. No one's gonna apologize or worry about your hurt feelings. The world just doesn't spin that way anymore (if it ever did).

To conduct a discourse one has to respect the person on the other end. And, respect has to be earned by the tone of the responses: This is civility. It is the sine qua non.

Civility is not "Political Correctness" nor is it the "Thought Police". It has to do with manners.

Well, that's my 2 cents.

Reply #73 Top

I think she looks good in anything.:grin: But I take it for a joke and hope thats the way it was intended.:)

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Quoting WOM, reply 5
I think she looks good in anything. But I take it for a joke and hope thats the way it was intended.

I dont think it was meant that way, but then the perfect revenge is to laugh at it that way. ;)

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what far left stuff? You mean playing the same game as played on Obama ( the Muslim/Terrorist stuff? ) out on the Intertubes and on Fox?

Your so right! I mean.. it's not like he won't have top security clearance if he becomes President because of the people he associates himself with, right?. Oh wait... looks like he wont be getting anything of the kind! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2104594/posts Try to ignore the comments, but read the other stuff. Like this for example:

 

Obama might find problems getting a top secret security clearance for the following reasons:

If Obama couldn't qualify for a Top Secret Security Clearance, is it wise for him to be President?