Thank you, that helped me, to help you.

I've updated the image.




Basically, you've installed my mod, INTO my mod's old version folder. So you need to take out all those folders there (textures, gameinfo, etc.. ) and basically move them back one folder.

The address should be something like this:

C:\------>Mods/Sins Plus


NOT like this:

C:\------>Mods/Sins Plus/Sins Plus

Hope that helps. Must be you lucky day, was just about to shut down for the night, and I wouldn't have been back on until 3:00pm tomorrow (GMT)

Just an FYI, in Galaxy Forge if you put the planet type as "Random True" or "Random" you will see the new planet types in the game. -J

Is that vista? If so i needa upgrade. Thats hot.

Aha, that aside, thanks for putting so much effort into this mod, it really improves the gaming experience significantly. The whole community really appreciates how much time and effort you've put into the mod. Great Job.

Just a comment - you might wanna reverse the pop caps on gas giants, oceanics, and forests for vas.

They don't, in fact, ever build structures on the 'ground' of their planets. The lore as it is now shows em building giant hanging cities, and nebulous gas giants [especially ones with an atmosphere that could be made breathable with only a little genetic tinkering/filtering] would make PERFECT targets for such free floating cities. The more jagged the terrain, the bigger the area per volume, the more repulsion force their anti-grav tech can exert on the planet's surface, and the easier it is to keep giant cities up [not that it isn't already more cost effective to have a very large structure rather than many small structures]

Just some thoughts to mirror the differences you already see in game. [with TEC lovings the terran planets, Advent the desserts, but vas don't get anything worthwhile from volcanos, 30% to 70 isn't worth it]

EDIT: just read over all the comments, so a few more thoughts
Firstly and most importantly, there NEEDS to be a version without negative bonuses, those can cripple a game, and ALL planets need to have a positive income at max upgrade.
The reasons for both have to do in small/medium multiplayer maps - if you get bottled in and the only things behind your choke points are useless planets, your screwed.

Also a comment on design philosophy for future updates - The TEC are the most technologically inferior, but they can bring the most resources to bear on a problem, the advent are ~1000 years ahead of the TEC in technology, and the vasarii are millenia ahead of both, but are vastly inhibited by their main purpose - to strip resources and haul ass.

@ CaptainHardcore
Are you insane. Never, never "upgrade" to Vista, it is the bane of many lives. I haven't heard one positive comment about it yet, and I specifically asked not to have it in my new computer (and I am so grateful of that). Must be close to 70% of all technical problems I've seen on game's Forums end with, "Must be a Vista only Issue".

But hey, who am I to tell you what to buy

@ Jean Luke
I appreciate your feedback, but I am in disagreeance with much of your post. I have designed this mod around the believable theory that the urban areas on the planets are in fact land based cities. As much as your view is correct about the more land, the bigger cities above, I see it as preposterous to think that it would be cheaper to keep a City in the air, than on the ground. The resources, fuel, and power to construct and maintain something like that would be phenomenal.

To your next point about research advantages to one race or another; I aim to keep this Mod balanced, as it is solely here to "Add, not Alter". There are plenty (and I do emphasise plenty) of mods that alter the game is many ways. Those mod authors are free to use my Mod as a foundation to start from and enhance the game, then the changing and balancing of units and research can be done by them without undoing my changes first.

Your following comment is also something that I personally will not do. I can see your point, but in my opinion, and many other peoples, random factors are what makes fun games even more fun. Also, with your idea, Exploration is a must. As it stands, it is a risk. Not a very big one, as 99% of all the bonuses that can be uncovered from Exploration are a positive, but still a risk. Another reason why I dessagree with you, is because I am a strong believer of thinking your way through a game, not just learning what to do and when. Great players and many Military tacticians in history have been judged by their ability to 'Overcome and Adapt'.

Example; You get a real bad bonus, Plague say. You now have to choose what to do.
1. Hold the planet, knowing the population increase rate is abysmal, and other aspects will mostly hinder you empire.
2. Abandon the planet and move on, and see what the next one holds.
3. Hold the planet, and do the best you can with it, but quickly spread out past it to the next planet.
4. If you enemy is close, you fall back one, and fortify you bordering world like a citadel. You let him take it, and let him suffer for it. This now opens up a lot more options for you, but I could be all day here describing them.

And why should all planets have a positive income? These planets usually excel in another area, and are worth the cost. Another example; The maintenance on a factory is losing you money, but the products you produce are worth twice as much to you as the money itself. If its early in the game, then you are faced with more options on what to do, which I'm not going to list.

Some else is free to take my mod and make these changes themselves, if they want to. They will then of course be beyond help from me if something were to go wrong, and every update they would have to alter again, but if you feel that strongly (which looks like you do by saying: "there NEEDS to be"), then feel free to do it.

Your last point also can be answered by my response to your second comment. Balance.

Thank you for your feedback, everyone.

I just wanted to say what a great mod this is, love the new planets. I'm just wondering if it's possible in the future to have the planets appear in galaxy forge without using randomcolonizable. The ingame map designer is very meh.

haha, noted. I will not be purchasing vista. [quote]@ phenomenal

good use of vocab words.

@ Iranium
I don't know how to do this, as I haven't touched the GF. But if someone knows, then please enlighten me, and I'll see what can be done.

@ Captian
I love using big words, usually stops children and trolls dead in their track when they read it

Oh, and no problem about the Vista tip, it is only my opinion, but I do recommend steering clear, at least for another year of two, until all the bugs are ironed out.

And dam both of you, I've seen two typos that I now can't edit and fix in my last post

Finally got the mod to work but it looks like the textures are corrupt.

The new types of planets are just dark and when zoomed out has a square graphic over laying them.

Should I just download the mod again and replace the texture file maybe?

Aye no prob, here goes:



Barren



Aye, but I've had the problem when just running pure Sins plus 1.1a (first thign i did was tey to replicate it using just pure sins so I don;t complain to you about a bug I caused from merging mods)




When you click on a planet and select it then mouse over the planetary exploration tab in the lowr left had of the screen. When i do this the game ctd's




Aye, everything else is 100% fully functional. In my last game I colonized gas giants, ocean, forest, urban and barren worlds wihtout a problem complete with all the bonuses (and a deadly secret or two) and had no issues what so ever.




I;m not sure if that;s where the problem is per say, but I edited out the subterranean coloy from the games file so it wouldn't show as a discovery in game, which fixed the problrem by keeping it from arising. (not really a fix though, more of a work around.)



I think one woudl have to reprobragm the GF tools to recognize the additional planets, which sounds out of my league.



But anyway, while I;m posting I just thought I'd add in my feedback on the mod.

So far I haven't noticed any glaring balance inconsistencies as far as planets, or their bonuses go. Aye the deadly secrets and plague can be a real aggravation, but it makes exploration of planets far more exciting now, instead of just enless artifacts, positive bonsues or nothing at all. (it's also not so common as to be unbalancing and really adds to the deopth of the game.)

Overall your mod plays so well it feels more like a natural addtion to the game; (like a mini expansion if you will) and Sins feels far more "empty" without it active.

This is a fantastic mod! Admittedly I altered it a bit to fit my personal tastes but I have to say - you really made the Sins experience a lot better for me

a request for future versions if you're considering it: more forest images. It just gets odd seeing the same weird-shaped lake over and over lol. but that's just me

thanks again for a great mod!

I'll echo the 'awesome mod' sentiments. However, I've run into a problem which may or may not be related to the mod, but I'll mention it since it did crop up right after I added in the fixed PlanetBonusSubT.ENTITY file. After that Sins started crashing on game load or start. It stuck around after removing the mod completely, though, so I think it's a problem with my install...I'm waiting to hear back from the support guys, just in case. Anyhow, the mod otherwise worked perfectly, and I don't know if I'd want to go back to playing without the extra planets now. :LOL:

All good comments to hear, makes it all worth while. And Silver, I found the problem, it was a string issue, but it was on the other end. Not in the .str file, but in the PlanetBonus file. So I didn't need all that info after all

The new links on the front page are an updated version, with this minor bug fixed.

Cypher, I don't think it is my mod, as it shouldn't override any core game files, and so shouldn't effect the main game. A total reinstall (delete all traces etc...) should fix it. Good luck.

Good to hear Caldari, and I will try to make some additional textures.

Once again though; If anyone wants to design a planet texture for either a new planet, or an existing one, please do, and PM me a preview and a link to the file. You will be given full credit if I use it. I recommend copying one of the existing planet textures in the textures folder, and editing that. Don't forget, the light(_cl) and dark(_da) side.

I am having a problem using this mod in a multiplayer game. Single player it works fine for both me and my boyfriend. But when we try to direct connect with it enabled, it gives a checksum error. We ensured that we both have the same amount of files in each of the mods folders and have the same version of the mod. His checksum is 1413649636. Mine is 1413649635. Theres a difference of ONE! Apparently thats all it takes. I'm using XP, he is running Vista. (Is this part of the problem?)

Is anyone else running into problems like this or know how to correct this?

I haven't tried it MP, but no doubt it is that one number. I'm also going to go out on a limb and say it is a Vista issue. I'm slightly prejudice against Vista anyway, but that probably is the problem. The checksum I think is the total size of the folder, in bytes.

Actually, I think I know where it is. Can you both download from the link on the front page again (I know, its a pain, but this should fix it). I released a ultra minor fix yesterday, literally one letter in one file, which would mean one byte, which would explain the Checksum's being out by one.

If not, post back, and I'll try and get back to you tomorrow. In the mean time, if it doesn't work from the above fix, check every folder for the size (Right click, properties, then get the exact folder size) and compare them with each others. One should be one byte out, probably GameInfo. Then, if you really want some Brownie points, you could view the folder as a list, then arrange by Modified. Then make sure they are all in the same order (another pain, but you don't have to do it), then give me the name of the odd file out.

Good luck, I'll be back tomorrow, lunch time probably (GMT)

Hey Uzii. Great mod here. Look forward to seeing even more planets out there by you.

I did have one question for you when it comes to the gameinfo folder. Did you change anything around in any of the files that were already in the folder, or just added new ones to the folder?
Like PlanetOcean etc are new, but PlanetBonusSubT was changed around.

Thanks for any info you have time to reply with.

Looking forward to seeing more planets from you.

For future reference, the easiest way to check is to open the GameInfo folder, and arrange the icons as a list, and sort them by "Date Modified". Any files after 2/9 were modified by the modder.

As it turns out, he downloaded from filefront while i used rapidshare.com

after we got it from the same source we got it working and the checksums matched up. Might want to update your filefront upload Thank you for the help, the mods great!

@ IHIavok
Like my good man Aequitas said, best thing to do is arrange by modified. And no, SubT is new, like all the planetary bonuses. The Cavern System you may be thinking of is still in there somewhere.

@ Aelya
Is all sorted now. What happened was when I updated, I removed the too file links and put in the new ones. However, if one of you downloaded from one of the old links before I updated, and the other downloaded the new one, then that would be the problem.

All links on the front page are the same now.

Thanks for the feedback everyone, and Aequitas for being here when I'm not

Ypou menationed if anyone had any suggestions to post them so here goes:

My first suggestion is a sort of a "ship graveyard" that's full of mostly destroyed vessles and a few neutral ones that could be captured. It would make the "planet" (or would it be better called debris field) useful but not overly powered (since the ships would count towards your fleet capacity once captured and it'd take time to capture them all)

As for my second idea, I'm njot sure if it would qualify as a "planet type" since it would be more or less a "system type" but thought I'd suggest it anyway.

What about system that has a black hole at the center instead of a star? (which could slowly deal damage to ships in oribt near it do to intense gravity) Within the system could be a variety of plasma storms, dead asteroids and other debris, maybe a few barren planets, nothing really colonizeable but still littered with some resource value.

I know from a scientific stand point it's not really realistic to have this kind of system, (but no more unrealastic than seeing ice planets right next to the star) but from a fun stand point it would be pretty neat to see.

Interesting ideas. Ship graveyard sounds good, but would require some time to look into. An interesting concept though, and definitely one I'll think about.

Mmm.... I'm not sure how to deal damage to everything in a system, but it would be doable in the Star's Gravity well. The only problem is meshing and texturing the thing, which I would be useless at.

Thanks for the suggestions though, much appreciated.

Is there anyway to to use these planet in the galaxy forge editer?

Not that I know of. But I haven't used the GF at all, so it would probably be est to ask someone in the know

I'm sure if you edited some text somewhere you could get the GF to read the new planets. But I'm not sure where, anyone else know this?

Concerning the black hole thing, our galaxy supposedly has a uh, super massive deadly black hole of death floating in the middle. Earth is slowly being sucked into it, hence the spiral galaxy name.


Fun right?

history channel

Love the mod Uzii, just had to say it again. Great work. I know I'm a little late to the defense on this, but the chance at a negative from exploration is great. In fact, I would like more random events in this game. I don't want an invincible Borg cube to come through and rip up my fleet or anything but it would be nice if the devs could put a little terrorism into the game (if a planet is 70% aligned with your empire, that still leaves some angry folks. Who's to say they couldn't pack a trade ship full of Hushaboom and blast a hole in the side of a capital ship or take out a trade platform.

Would be a nice incentive to actually build and research media centers for those who miss out on the obvious reason (more money/resources from the planet)

As someone with a BA in History let me tell you that the "History Channel" is quite often wrong, and likes to state "facts" that are actually theories.

If it doesn't come from Neil deGrasse Tyson, don't believe it.