Maybe that's the "deadly secret" he alluded to in new planet enhancements? :p 

Seriously though, I think it's a missing line in the .str file. (it coudl be the string count number is too short so it;s no loading?)

That;s the only place I can suggest you look.

If you don't mind putting a save of the game up for download (and some explaination of which planet) I'll take a look and see if it crashes for me, and maybe do a hot fix if possible.

Ugh, I HAAAAATE that deadly secret 'bonus'. I found an ancient artifact on a world, but then found 'deadly secret' so I couldn't use the artifact lmao, was so gay. On another world I also got TWO 'diseased planet's. I mean wtf, that planet is like so useless lmao. 180% longer pop growth! 200% longer build times and costs! DAYUM MAN! 100% lower pop cap! @_@

Seems odd the militia would be causing crashs. Played a game and used a large random map yesterday (sins+ 1.1 and mars 1.0) and except for the initial headache of getting the mods merged and loaded, have not had a single crash ~6 hours in.

That being said i have yet to find an urban planet and its militia, so i cannot say for sure.

I also have a question, for some reason i thought forest planets were beefed up in terms of logistical and/or tactical slots, making them ideal for planetary fortresses.
Just noticed from the readme that forest planets actually have the same # of slots as the others, and actually less than gas giants.

So was that changed or was i smoking crack to begin with?

And either way, what do you see as the main purpose of a forest planet?

Visuals, I think. It would be cooler if it had some real bonuses like higher health or higher credit income. At any rate I think it would make more sense it the population cap was raised just a tad bit more.



Can you upload the merged mods please? I want to use this mode but don't really want the vanilla gameplay.

Visuals, I think. It would be cooler if it had some real bonuses like higher health or something. At any rate I think it would make more sense it the population cap was raised just a tad bit more.



Can you upload the merged mods please? I want to use this mode but don't really want the vanilla gameplay.

I would suggest waiting for uzii and aquetas to release a merged version of their own.
But if your like me and you need it now for whatever reason, i uploaded my modified version here:
WWW Link

Keep in mind this DOES NOT included the textures folder you will need to play..
So first you will have to copy over the default textures folder into "the mars effect" folder, then copy over the texture files provided by uzii.
ALSO keep in mind this merger is using Sinsplus v1.1 (NOT 1.1b), but i dont think uzii changed the texture files, so you should be able to use the 1.1b texture files.

It should be aprox 1.31gb in size now.
Now this is where i got the headache....

For some reason if i tried to enable this merged mod ingame, it would crash almost EVERY time.
I believe this is due to an issue in sinsplus (i am not sure)

Fortunately my work around was fairly painless, and only needs to be done once.
1.Take the ORIGINAL VERSION of mars effect (not my merged folder) and put it in the mods folder.
2.Launch the Game
3.Go to the mods screen and enable mars effect, making sure you click enable on startup
4.Quit the game, replace the original mars effect folder with my edited one (filename should be identical) and the game should load and play fine.

Like i said, probably better to wait untill theres a legit version, but this worked for me.

Nice mod, allowed me to easily adapt this mod with my own.

Thanks.

Why do so many people just make mods an easy-mode?

The planets give far to many resources/logistics/tac and stuff. They're twice as good as the normal planets.


Not balanced at all.

Right... Lets get started...

@ boeduur
One of the texture files hasn't been copied over or installed correctly. Make sure everything is in. Uninstall/delete my mod, then reinstall it. A bug like this would be one that everyone would get if it were a mod based problem. Also, check the effects and UI options, make sure everything is ticked like it should be (Icons, etc..).

@ Jeebus89
Sorry, your going to have to give me a little more detail on this. What planet type? Any other mods merged with mine? What do you mean by 'Going to the planets InfoCard', hover over the planet to see the bonus? Have the other bonuses worked so far? On new planets and old?

@ Silveressa
Thank you for answering that. Sound like you got the problematic area spot on, we'll see what Jeebus comes back with.

@ Colt
Ha! Must have had two different types of disease, unlucky. And the Deadly Secret is rare, but on larger maps you may see it.

@ chronicpayne
Forest worlds aren't really anything special at the moment. But from the feedback I've just seen, I may give them a purpose/strength/weakness. The bonuses you can find on these worlds are usually the better ones, Timber, Adhesive Resin, Dense Canopy, and both types of Ancient Planetary Shield.
Oh, and thanks for posting that merge, I can't give any support for it, but at least its out there for people who want it.

@ WIck742
I like both those Ideas. I will include the bonus for timber always, and rarer Timber types as the random bonuses. A population increase sounds good to me.

@ djuice
good hear, and go right ahead, just don't forget my credit

@ innociv
There are many thing I could call you/say to you, but I will refrain.
The Urban planet, by far the most valuable of the new planets, is heavily defended, and can mess up your expansion if you get it in the wrong place, as CaptainHardcore has shown. The others have distinct strengths and weaknesses (apart from the forest planet, as discussed above), lower planet health and population, but higher orbital structure slots.
If you do have a real issue, why didn't you post exact thing you'd like to see, or changed. You sound like a troll to me, so either prove me wrong with a thought out response, or leave this place.

To everyone else, thank you for your feedback, it is greatly appreciated.

Wow what a mod. I love it. Love everything about it. Why is this not just in the standard game? It should be, they should pay Uzii and get it in there. Makes the games so much more interesting and dynamic.

So much easier to get going with more things around that can be colonized without going 2 into civ. Makes gas giants more than just annoying empty space to try and control. The planet bonuses are great, the occasional debuffs are annoying but I can normally live with them.

My only humble suggestion would be to add something in the civ tree that can help deal with some of the planet debuffs in the event you happen to get stuck in a nasty portion of the galaxy. Something like "Hardened Settelers" - decreases negative planet effects by X%, yeah horrible name for it but whatever .

Much praise to Uzii and all the other modders! Keep making em and i'll keep trying em.

KP

Thanks for the positive comments kjpwv. I have a bad feeling that what you suggested can't be done, well not with the current mod tools anyway. The bonuses are completely separate from any other variables, so adjusting them through research is pretty much impossible.

Much as I agree with your point about getting a crappy starting position, a good player will adapt and overcome these problems. Well, thats my thoughts on it anyway.

If you have another suggestion to soften the negative effects early on, I'll gladly try it. Thanks for the feedback

A little bit of criticism:
Doesn't anyone think that Colonising an Urban planet is a bit illogical?
Urban planets are not natural .. they are created by citizens ... and it takes a LOT of citizens to urbanize even a sizeble chunk of a planet...
I sugest an alternative ... Upgrading to an urban planet - although I doubt its possble at the moment.
Now in a Starwars mod + Planet invation option - it is logical, but in sins world with current colonization mechanics I dont see how it fits in

Mmm... You may be slightly confused on how Sins works. Nearly all the planets that you can colonise without research in Vanilla are already inhabited. Terran and Desert planet have urban areas which can be seen from orbit on the dark side of the planet. These are, from what I understand and have heard, whats left of the TEC's old empire. Colonising really is the wrong word in Sins, you occupy these worlds. The population is in units, and I've heard is the number of Officials present on the planet (can anyone confirm?). The local Militia also backs up this theory, every planet has militia around it, they must have come from somewhere, most likely another colony or the planet's population.

The Urban worlds are just extremely developed Old Empire planets, left behind by the TEC when the other two races invaded. The Urban planet is just another pawn in the battle, but is just a lot more valuable than the other planets.

Well, thats how I view it anyway. Your entitled to your opinion, but this the principle on which my mod is based.

You're spot on Uzii, and the same basic mantra applies to planet bombing, where the rationale is you're not systematically wiping out all civilization, but rather (and I've heard two different explanations) the enemy government or the populace supporting the enemy government.

I can confirm the presence of this bug as well, as I just encountered it on a large map.

I;m not sure what;s causing it however, (I did a look at the code it seemed clean) but I worked around it by simply editing the subterranean bonus out of the planetary bonuses in the english.str file, which seemed to fix the problem.

Quck question here.

I downloaded it and installed it (and even enabled it in the mod option screen). But playing a premade map (systems of war) I saw no new planets or research.

Does this mod only work on random/created maps?

Im yet to experience a bug, im afraid to find one. The only thing that makes me crash is a video card error that makes it shut off. Thats always fun.
Yes the mod only works of random maps because the planets are added into the files that randomize the maps, the original maps arent edited.

Cool thanks. Wasn;t sure if it added anything into the algorythms that could alter premade maps.


Looks like random is the only way to go.

I hate to repeat myself but;



So you are saying the problem is in the .str file. I will look into it now.

Thanks to everyone for the positive feedback, good to here. And premade maps would have the planets in, so they won't be in when they are played. I'm not sure on the working of the Galaxy Forge, but I'm sure there's a way to put my new planet types into new maps.

Are there plans to have an official merged Sins Plus + Mars Effect mod?

I have done (well...I think I have done) what you said to do....but I am not so sure really that anything was done. Nothing seems much different in-game....

Chris

Ok, I just typed out a reply and I pressed the wrong button, so this will be brief.

Mino, ask the author of the mod(Aequitas), as I think me is using my mod as a base for his next update. This goes for most of the major mods, just PM the author.

The PlanetBonusSubT.ENTITY file had the error in the StringID. Replace it with THIS file. Put it in my mod's GameInfo folder and replace it when asked.

no problem...sorry about asking that here....i just saw that there were some ppl talking about merging them.

Anyways....

I reinstalled your mod. And, I am probably just being idiotic....but where exactly do I find the Gas Giant Colonization? I cannot find it anywhere....this is why I am thinking I installed it incorrectly....

Chris

ok....i feel stupid, but I figured out what I did wrong. After looking at the pic of the folder and the address bar...I finally figured it out. Somehow, I installed the mod into a folder, and that is what was messing it up.

Anyways....now, that it looks like it is working correctly, I am excited about getting into it.

Chris

You should have an extra section with a Sins Plus logo in the Non-Military research tree. Look carefully at each line, although you should see it pretty easily.

The best way to find out if it is installed correctly, is look at a Gas Giant, does it require a research to colonise?

I re-installed the mod and it still is adding the new planets in the in-game map editor or in any of the playable maps here is a screen shot to help you
The size of the entire folder 1.31GB
WWW Link