Hey Uzi any chance you will include planets like venus? I Really dunno what to call that hot, noxious pressure cooker....

Well, we got plenty a planet now, great job! Going to use your mod in my mod. What about any future uncolonizable planets? Like better plasma storms or electrical storms?

1.2 is in full flow now, so I'll give you a list of the include Planets (not bonuses as the list isn't finalised):
- Toxic Planet (kind of a Venus, crystal deposits)
- Paradise Planet (similar to Oceanic, but with minimal Tactical Slots and Planet Health, huge culture bonus)
- Industrial Planet (Heavily polluted, increased ship build time)
- Old Naval Base (Increased Range, Damage, and Chance to hit for Capital Ships and Orbital Guns) (My personal favourite)

I may include some more uncolonisable ones in 1.3, but they are limiting for gameplay.

Uzzi, i like the old naval base idea, will it have some hefty defense forces?

It may

I haven't got to that part yet, but a strong militia present is almost a definite. Probably on par with the Urban planet now.

I'm still looking for an answer on the chance of Bonuses.

1. Do I keep it as it is now with increased chance of getting some bonuses, but as a result you could get the same one twice, or thrice.

2. Do I give every planet one of each so you will never get the same one twice on a single planet, but as a result you are just as likely to get 'A Deadly Secret' as a 'Moon', which is somewhat an unlikely comparison.

Awesome cant wait for those new planets. I def like the ideas of a paradise and toxic planets. Just my opinion but i would keep it the way it is now with a chance of getting some bounuses even if you have the chance to get the same one twice.Keep up the great work

Thanks for the input Minkus, that is what I will do; leave them doubled or tripled up.

Uzii:

I've successfully installed your Mod and have played 2 medium random games with your mod enabled. Some of the features have been present - colonizable gas giants, additional research options - but none of the new planet types have appeared. Not once. In 40 planets.

I'll create a few more random maps and crank out a ton of scout ships just to see, but is there any reason why this might be happening?

Thanks for all of your hard work, to say nothing of the support you have provided for the community for your mod.

I'm just off, but it depends on which 'Random' maps you are using. User created random maps in the map maker (in-game) will have them at the bottom of the list of planets, and also in all the relevant categories.

However, I have not tested them with the 'Random Small/Medium/etc Map' in the map lists from Vanilla. I'm not sure how they pick them randomly, but if they use the GalaxyScenarioDef file, then they should include the planets.

If you'd like to see/play them, make a quick map on the in-game map maker, make it really random, and preview it. Have a nose around and enjoy

Quick update too: Paradise World texture is done, and so is the Toxic planet texture (courtesy of Davedon). Industrial and Military tomorrow if I have the time.

I'm still open for any Planetary Bonuses you'd like to see, along with their effects. And any planet types, although my list of them is growing exponentially.

What about some bonus that inproves your ships HP and weapons? You could only have it on your homeworld or something,would mean that the homeworld is harder to take over then any other world! As it should be as your homeworld would be more important then some backwater planet lol. But at moment there just as easy to defend(if there both terran that is).Just a suggestion! Great mod Uzii!!!!  

I must have had a bad file. I deleted the MOD and redownloaded from the link above, reinstalled, and all works great. Thanks for all of your hard work, Uzii!

yeah you might want to remove the "sins plus" that is added to the main menu whether you are running the mod or not. had to reinstall to remove that....

No you didn't. You installed it wrong. My textures replace nothing in the default directory, unless you, wanting to save space, copied and replaced the main directory texture files, and if thats the case, its kind of your own fault...

I will consider that Chaney, whether it can be done is another matter. Home worlds will never have any Planetary Bonuses(Something in the game that disables them), but they might work with the Gravity Well bonuses I am experimenting with now.

And its good to hear you got it working jdhas, could well have been a faulty d/l.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback.

Uzzi, i didnt see it. Can you post the list of possible planetary bonuses? I would like to give some feedback on additional ones.

Thanks

Ok, nm, i see it you posted that you are "Gravely" mistaken if you are to list them all...

Ok, here are some ideas..

Increased artifact bonus?

Guaranteed artifact?

Conquered natives.. you free them from the militia forces and you get a free colony out of it.

Rebel forces join your cause.. 2-3 free ships?

Yes, there's too many to name, I can post all the their file names, but some of them are not very 'readable'.

I can't increase Artifact Bonuses at present, nor should I in the future. If anything, I would make them better, but decrease their chance. However, this is all in the .Galaxy files, and so different for each map.

Conquered Natives, interesting, but why free them, when they would already be slaves to the superior race on the planet, and so be covered by the 'Slaves' Bonus.

Rebel Forces, now, I like this one. I am going to add two bonuses in 1.2 that are similar, but one is a positive, the other a negative. This would be a nice thing to use alongside the Planetary Insurgency at the moment, as they are a negative effect, but your idea could be the positive of the same bonus. I'll keep it in mind, thank you.

Random ideas....

-Galaxy wide or race wide random effects for X amount of time? Or some may be limited to one specific planet.

From time to time there are lucky breaks, disasters or emergencies. Positive or negative resource, economic, diplomatic, production, trading, disasters, structure destroyed, plague on a planet, lost XXX population.

-You find an abandoned depot, get XXX one time resources

-Solar storm, no ships can phase jump for the next 5 minutes.

-space dragon devours one of your ships... Or a suicide bomber detonates the phase drive on one of your ships and destructs.

All can be included I think, but finding out how to and incorporating them successfully would be worthy of a mod in itself.

All Galaxy Wide things would take some time to investigate. The only thing I can think of, would be to have a look in the Artifact files and see what makes abilities global. Even then though, it would be very difficult to get working.

I'm not sure either on how to include random events. Scripting I assume, but I wouldn't know where to start.

Abandoned depots is a good idea, and might make it into 1.3, depending on how hard they are to incorporate. I have something similar lined up, so it may make your idea slightly easier for me.

Much as I like the random ship loss idea, I think its just one step too far. Money and Resources can be easily replaced, but if a Capital ship, or a scout went down, it could really effect the game. Also, I won't know where to start on this either, events are a bit out of my league at present.

Kind of reminds me of the "Distant Suns" variant of Twilight Imperium, so was wondering, is there any way you could incorporate a "Scientific Society" bonus?

In TI3, Scientific Society would give you a free technology upgrade, which I guess in this case could be a somewhat small (yet not insignificant) boost to research speed? Or cost-decrease? *shrug* just a thought.

A good idea and one that has also crossed my mind. Making it possible and incorporating it could take some work, but once 1.2 is out, I will investigate.

Thanks for the input

Do you have a rough eta on 1.2? Like to try it out this weekend.

Hmm, how about allowing Wormholes to have a new object built arround them that can shut the wormhole down (based on autocast, so it woudl be reversable)? This would be an expensive, high tier structure (cheaper and earlier for Vasari).

I was going to suggest Laboratories also, if there could be a multiplier for the number of labs arround certain types. It would be neat if a Wormhole orbiting laboratory offered science bonuses.

Perhaps also replace Green Stars (which don't exist in reality) with Brown Dwarfs- sort of super Jupiters with very little fusion going on, but probably with lots of moons and harvestable resources- once your tech is high enough.

It would be interesting to be able to build tactical bases arround standard stars also. So long as the technology to do so were very expensive.

Something that would be REALLY cool would be a planet or site that had phase lanes that changed randomly. Don't know how possible this is currently, it could really make strategy interesting near one.

In addition, planets that had faster or slower phase lanes could make some routes better than others for both trade and for war.

A Corporate Planet, this would be a planet that is entirely owned by a corporation. It would have a low population total (the corporate population is separate from your empires administrative population), but a very high income and trade multiplier, and high Logistic, but very low tactical numbers (War is bad for business.) in addition it would have a cultural penalty (these guys don't care whose empire they're a part of really) It would look similiar to an Urban or Industrial planet). Finally Trade Ports would be cheaper and faster to build arround these planets.

Would it be possible to have the Naval Base to give Capital Ships built arround it an experience bonus, but a time penalty for construction? If the bonus were enough, but the time penalty signifigant, it might encourage some players to build multiple Capital shipyards arround naval bases...

For the Industrial Planet, perhaps have Antimatter researves in ships and structures about the planet double their refill speed? (Allied only of course)

Enemy of my Enemy- This would be a planetary condition, if you captured this planet, the diplomatic disposition of one of the other races would gain 100 as you eliminate an ancient enemy of that race. This would be a one time setting.

Ancient Monolith-A free superweapon appears about this planet after capture, it costs nothing, and could possibly be split into three conditions, one for each races superweapon.

Young Empire-This planet immediately rebels and forms a new, expansive empire (spawns a new Pirate base)

@ Kreyson
Sorry man, no chance of that. But most definitely next weekend. And I hate giving ETA's, 80% of all ETAs for mods/paperwork/appointments/anything are never met. But roughly a week, maybe less if your lucky.

@ verybad
I appreciate your feedback, but f*ck me dude, thats a hell of a lot of stuff. Ok;
- Wormholes, out of the question, and out of this mod's scope. I know what your thinking of, but at present, its a 'no can do' for this mod.
- Something like this has crossed my mind, and shall be looked into for 1.3, no promises though, as the 'Abilities' a planet can have are very unpredictable to whether they will work or not.
- It could be done, but it would be at the very bottom of my priorities list, a Sun is a Sun, not a planet, the whole reason they cannot be occupied is that they are the sure place to be a bottleneck.
- Randomly changing Phase Lanes, dream on Even if it were possible, it won't be something that I'd want to include.
- Phase Lane speed may be something I will look into in the future, sounds doable, and wouldn't have a huge impact on Gameplay.
- Corporate Planet, interesting idea, duly noted.
- I think you may be missing something. These are Old Naval Bases. The facilities would be intact, but personnel and equipment would be long gone. I may give these planets a slight decrease is ship build time, due to their factories, but the primary role for a planet like this would have been a forward base, and somewhere with increased defences.
- One off settings are not doable at present, or at least not that I know of.
- I like the idea, but its just too powerful. Imagine the first planet you colonised got this, you'd auto-fire and seriously f*ck over the other empires pretty quick.
- Once again, no can do. Its a nice idea, but just isn't possible at present, well, not to my knowledge.

Thanks for the feedback and input, some very interesting ideas there

Edit: Might help if you number the ideas next time, give me a reference to point to

Tried to look through all 200 or so comments for some info on how i would go about using these new planets in forge. If possible could you explain how to do that, I already know about editing galaxy files in notepad,would I have to add these planets to a map after I use forge?

Someone mentioned somewhere that if you change the ScenarioGalaxyDef file that the GF reads, they appear. I'm not sure which one that is, it could be the main directory one. If so, backup your original first.