AM88 POsts:

This type of reaction that you describe is a hardwired, natural one of 99 out of 100 2 year olds. Most two year olds will back off ususally to the comfort of a parent's side, when an strange adult approaches them. It's an natural, self protective, as you say, instinctive reaction.




RE: but children are getting smarter..info being presented with sensitivity and tact..

No matter how much sensitivity and tact that schools teach sexual molestation concepts, it's going to open a whole new world to children whose sexual lives are dormant due and otherwise would never be even thinking of it. The study reported that the gains in knowledge after participation was very low and there were surprisingly untoward results. The children responed negatively even to neutral pictures of interaction between people and parents reported increased anxiety, changes in sleeping patterns, and an overanxious fear of strangers.

When children are prematurely given information in matters of sexuality, anxiety is aroused even to the point that academic subjects are interfered with. In matters of sexuality, latency age children (ages 5 to puberty) should be kept in their happy ignorance as long as possible. Yet, those who design and develop these programs and curriculums have ignored warnings from medical authorities.

You are very fortunate...and it would be good for you to check out every resourse and material, go and watch that video and if your kids have questions you'll know the context from which they come.


On the other hand, I'm talking about school districts that absolutely usurp parental rights, disrespect their authority and undermine parents who take seriously their responsibility and role to instruct their children.

This is true. Google "latency period" and Dr. Rhoda L. Lorand, who wrote a paper entitled, "A psychanalytic View of Sex Education Controversy".

Public schools started sexually intructing high schoolers, then that moved to 7th and 8th graders, and now to 4 year olds in pre-K. They get away with it claiming they are teaching sexual information that is only "medically accurate" and "age appropriate". Today, by fifth grade kids are taught more about sex than could be found in 'smut' books in my younger years (and I'm not thaaatt old!), but I digress.

Keep in mind that when the most explicit and intimate aspects of a person's body and sexual expression are discussed, natural sexual expression is awakened and modesty breaks down. The sense of private and intimate versus now public is breached. Imagine the pressures placed on youngsters to go and experience what is freely talked about in his sex-ed class?

Bottom line: sex-ed instruction whether it's given to a four year old in pre-K or to a 16 year sexualizes them.

What do medical experts say happens to immature, innocent, unwary youngsters who are exposed to thirteen years of indiscriminate sex-ed programs and materials, such as GT/BT, developed by the national sex forum and SIECUS, spawn of Planned Parenthood?

It breaks down feelings of revulsion (like those just described by AM88)which act as normal barriers to premature sexual expression.
On this from from Dr. Lorand,

essential to this sexual attitudinal restructuring process is the violation and destruction of the latency period roughly from age 5 to puberty when sexual interests are dormant and which could result in the loss of their innocence by the deforming of the young and impressionable conscience. Latency age children do not scrutinize their thoughts and feelings. Their natural inquisitiveness is directed to the outside world and the sensible educator has always seized upon this fact to instruct the child in fundamentals. The study of anatomy belongs to puberty when the child's interest turns to his body becasue of pubertal changes...when a child is prematurely inundated with concepts, anxiety is aroused, learning of academic subjects is interferred with and self-confidence is damaged.


(and BINGO, breaking down the natural barriers to premature sexual expression is the goal----cause if kids aren't sexually active, then they aren't going to need to buy contraceptives, condoms and have abortions which is the sole aim of Planned Parenthood-types who develop the programs in the first place.)

You know, you don't teach a 10 year old to throw a curveball. You can ruin your arm throwing curveballs. If a 10 year old knows how to throw one, they will. If they don't know how, or it isn't address, they won't even know you can teach them that. You wait until the right time to teach it, until they are more responsible and know what to do with it.

Where is this happening? Are you finding it in the news? If its in the news then its because it is an exception, not the rule, thus its newsworthiness.

This is my oldest son's fifth school, all but two in diff states. How is it, if this is so prolific, he made it to the end of 5th grade without really knowing what sex is?

In 4th grade we discussed the mechanics because he heard some kids talking. He thought kissing was sex. It wasn't until the end of 5th grade that he learned a man's sperm impregnates and he doesn't just "pee" inside a woman.

The reason its taught earlier now, imho, is because kids are going through puberty at younger ages. Why that's happening is a whole nother can of worms. Once the body starts making that transition it gets all kinds of funky smells, hair and reactions. So my son's class last year was split..boys went to the male gym teacher who explained puberty and how to wash and clean up after themselves. Girls got the same thing from a female.

My oldest is in 6th grade this year and still pretty ignorant about the details. I talk bluntly with him when the teaching moment is present. This year in sex ed he will get the whole deal...then we'll talk about it.

I agree with LW. I often remind my 4 year old to stop touching himself in front of people.

No offense Lula, but most of the sexually active girls I knew in jr high and high school went to Catholic Schools. My Catholic friends were the first to smoke and drink as well. So I certainly don't believe for one moment public schools are inferior to Catholic ones.

No offense taken, Tova. The Catholic Church has for 2,000 years constantly taught that what those sexually active girls were doing is morally wrong and sinful....and I've yet to hear of one public school that would ever tell a student that having sex is morally WRONG. They give a ton of information, but none of it is from a moral standpoint.

That's where the inferiority part comes in.

True.



As a parent who wants her boys to stay celibate until marriage....I wouldn't mind the public schools endorsing abstinence. But they don't, so you are right. Public schools are inferior when it comes to Christian values.

That's my job anyway. heh

AMEN to that.

ya, but it's always nice to have backup..

Note to Ziggy...YOU AREN'T A TEACHER. You have a teaching degree, yes. You taught one school year and were not invited to return. You then worked as a PARA-Educator, (at a different school) supervising in-school detentions. You were not invited back the following year. You then stacked boxes at WalMart. You are currently unemployed. You have a teaching degree. You are NOT A TEACHER.

!! Your world-renowned memory is going to pot, LW. You have Ziggy's employment history so f-ed up. Oh...but wait...it serves YOUR purposes, so it must be right, right? He was also teaching less than 3 short months ago, so I guess that would kind of qualify him "as a teacher" since he's been in the classroom very recently. But...that serves your purposes, too, so it must be okay.

Oh...and btw...what are you doing these days? Telemarketing and ordering crap from Fingerhut so you can have something else to complain about? Real lucrative. And what were you doing before your last two telemarketing gigs? Sitting on your butt, smoking and drinking to excess while my tax dollars pay your disability. Whooooeee! So glad I can keep you fueled up.

So you ARE teaching these days, Ziggy? Funny, I just read on one of your moving blogs the other day that you were unemployed. And wasn't your most recent job at Walmart? And prior to that, as a 'para-educator' supervising in-school detentions? And haven't you been talking about looking in to a new career...as a truck driver? (go read his blogs, folks. it's all there. unless he's pulled a 'marcie' and deleted everything.) I stand by my statements. You may have a degree in education, but you aren't a teacher. On the odd occasions you have managed to land a teaching (or para) job, you've done so poorly---(didn't you have almost 3/4 of your last class FAILING?) and were so intractable and untrainable (because ziggy knows best) that not a single school district has wanted anything further to do with you. Funny when we're always hearing about the shortage of teachers in this country, dont ya think? Why would a 'teacher' be looking into truck driving if he COULD work in his field? Just admit it, Ziggy, you blew it. You blew it with every chance you were given. Not that I have any problem with this, our school systems are far better off without you. But don't go around JU talking like you're some kind of EXPERT because...YOU AREN'T A TEACHER. You were for a LITTLE WHILE. But you aren't NOW and aren't EVER likely to teach again.

Wanna know why I pulled a "marcie," hoser? Because you are creepy-insane. Do you realize that you added nothing to Angela's original discussion except about kids' sexual awakenings (why does this not surprise me?)? Your first two posts on this thread only served to say "HEY! ZIGGY'S AN IDIOT!" Who cares if you think he is? The other people that participate at JU can spot an idiot for a mile away. Oh...but you have to be the savior so that you can be the martyr later on. You have a proven pattern: "Blogger and husband were mean to me, so now I'm going to write a nasty article so that I can be vindicated and continue bashing them." Its insanity. It's completely childish. And frankly, I want no part of it. You take too much joy in threatening to "call this person" and that "board" and you're so concerned about people you'll never met thousands of miles away. It's sick. YOU'RE sick. So you wallow in your self-pity and your drugs and your booze and your creepy-crazy nuts-ness. I hope you enjoy it.

Can someone pass the popcorn?

Charles...

Unfortunately it's going to be a short movie. Sorry to disappoint.

You're a liar, Sabrina, and I think you might have a tad bit of dementia, too, because AGAIN, like I said, you have Ry's employment history screwed up beyond belief. But you don't seem to care that your facts are all wrong, not that I would expect you to. It serves your purposes to be wrong, so it's all right.

Honestly, you're not worth talking to. So I'm not. I've got other things to worry about. ~whatever~

Only if you've lied on your postings here, Marcie. Because EVERYTHING she said came directly from your postings.

But, since you've deleted them all, you can call her a liar. How convenient. You should just hope nobody realizes the value of Google caching!

You never disappoint, Marcie. You take the bait every time.

Yes, and managed to get fired AGAIN. How could that have slipped my mind? So that's THREE attempts at teaching, and THREE invitations to hit the road and don't look back as soon as the school year was over.

Well this should be interesting Sabrina. Please tell me the other two invitations and how I managed to get "Fired again" from those as well.
The thing here is that you are implying that Im getting fired from every job. Which simply is a flat out lie. in Vegas, I was scheduled to return and had a classroom set aside for me. I even worked as a sub in year round schools during the summer months before I came back. When Marcie was hired, we both went in and resigned. Sure, we both had jobs in Vegas, but we wanted to be closer to family. The part where you are wrong...is that I was scheduled to come back. My contract WAS renewed.

I guess maybe in your book, my resignation counts as being fired or not invited to come back. Actually, it seems like it does. Is there a reason why?

Lets look at the other job I had. My job as a para. Tell me how I got 'fired' and 'not invited to come back' from that job as well. Please tell me how lack of funding for quite a few para professionals and my low seniority because I was hired for the job in November translates into my getting 'fired' and 'not invited to come back." Hmm, maybe you can 'educate' me on this because Id like to know how you can twist my position being eliminated along with many others as 'getting fired' and 'not invited to come back" Maybe you expect me to work for free?

Of course, lets keep out the part I mentioned quite a few times that I actually was invited to come back towards the end of the summer if I was interested in another position.

I guess maybe in y0our book, my termination due to lack of funds counts as being fired or not invited to come back. Maybe you would work for free.

Down here, my contract was simply not renewed. So sorry to say that I wasn't 'fired' as if I was, my principal would easily have taken me out of the classroom right away if that was the case and he felt I was doing so poorly of a job. Never mind the fact Sabrina, that I was not told why I was being let go and my first evaluationw was almost perfect. I know I wasnt told why I was getting non rewewed. My wife as there along with a union rep. We both asked why I was being cut and he did not give me a reason. I also was never specifically told in writing what I needed to improve on. Its rather hard to fix something when you don't know what you are doing wrong. But Im sure you know all the 'facts' about it because you read what we decided to write on here.

At one point you did seem to be hoping that HIS failure wouldnt affect you that year, and that at least YOU could remain in their employ. Apparently that was not to be, so you were let go too, just because you're his wife.

Ok Sabrina, please show me the letter we got from the school district proving this. Id like to see the copy from the superintendent that you have in your hands.

Don't have one? All right. Then let me tell you the truth so you can get over yourself. Her position wasn't cut because of me. But a lack of funding for her position. In our school, there were three employees that did the same type of job she had and they were paid based on a seperate funding from the government. Now you may not know this, but if the money dries up or gets cut back, they need to cut positions. One position was cuf from every elementary school in the district. In our school, there was only three people and now there is only two. She was cut based on her hiring date as she was the newest employee of the three. At our school, there still is only two employees instead of three, meaning her position is not available.

I guess again in your book that lack of funding for a position and cutting the newest employee counts as firing. Despite the fact that the position was actually cut and the reduction in numbers is evident today as there are only two employees doing that job instead of three.

Yes, telemarketing IS very lucrative, I averaged $25-30 an hour. Not bad for someone without the gobs of 'formal' education that you little snobs like to think passes for actual knowledge.

Correct me if Im wrong, but you posted earlier (back in March) how it was only 9 bucks an hour. 25-30 bucks an hour isnt bad. Sounds a lot better than 9 bucks an hour which it seems like you are getting now...rather large pay cut for such high qualifications.

Tsk tsk, there's that reading comprehension problem again, Marcie. What I said was "ZIGGY IS NOT A TEACHER."

Its funny how I make a comment about various educational things and instead of actually commenting on my comments, you point out a fact that Im not a teacher. Now keep in mind that I was a teacher up until June.

Also, You yourself said last month that up 'until very recently" you were employed at a newspaper. From your own archives, you quit there in February, over a half year ago. How can 6 months be shorter than three?

Another thing which is interesting. You havent been in the mortgage industry (for whatever reason you might have) for how many years? Yet you feel insulted when we don't take your advice. However, the fact that after three months, Im no longer teaching some how makes me uncredible in my opinions? You said that Simon has gone through numerous bouts of unemployment in the past four years. So does he too become less valid / qualified in his opinions during that time, or does it only apply to people you don't like? No offense to Simon as he and I have never talked on here (that I can remember)...Im just trying to get you to clarify.

Just because you have a crapload of jobs everywhere, does not make you an expert everywhere either.

I certainly wouldn't invite myself into a discussion of mountain climbing and present myself as some sort of insider, some sort of expert with true wisdom to share, as he has done here. He was a failure at teaching. An utter failure. A three time loser.I thought it was important for people to know, so they can consider his views on the matter accordingly.

Lol...how can they not know, you point this out everywhere anyways, your version. Keep in mind the fact that you didnt actually reply to any of my comments at all.

Can someone pass the popcorn?

Can we have some butter on the next batch Charles?

AngelaMarie88's blog has been hijacked for the want of airing out grievances.

We'll call it a short film then. I use to seeing this kinda stuff anyways. I still get a kick out of it. No disappointment.

BTW, considering you are not the main star but part of the main cast, the movie can still be good so long as the other main cast members continue as they have above.



Regular or kettle corn? Salt?



It's all Bush's fault.

I still nominate her for her role as best supporting actress.

Skip the kettle corn. I like mine salty, not sweet.

I would have to nominate everyone on this site for best supporting. I don't know how we support these 2 "teachers".



So I take it marshmallows are out of the question? No biggy. The way things are heating up around here we're bound to have popcorn done before you know it.

Next time on "How to school a teacher"...

How many teachers does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Depends on if they are really teachers or just people with diplomas.

Ziggy, all of your long-winded explaining does not change the fact that you were not invited to return the following year. Three times now. Marcie was canned at least once as well, doing poorly on her reviews. And while I'm not going to dig through all your old crap to find it, I do believe you had issues with one particular class because you intended to FAIL over 75% of them, causing them to repeat the grade. (fourth, i think.)

Ok please prove in detail the three times. Resigning while I was invited back, being cut because of no money to pay my position and being non-renewed doesnt add up to three times. But you keep saying three, when its only been once.

As far as the 3/4...Im sure you wouldnt go back and double check because that would again point out some errors you continue to make. At two points last year, my class was struggling in their math grade. This was based on them not handing in their work. By 4th grade, students are responsible enough to hand in their own seat and homework. I do not hold their hand nor give them constant reminders. I give them plenty of time to finish their work...but for most of my class, this was an issue. Keep in mind I had no late policy so students could hand in work when they got it finished. This was never a concern for them. So, yes, my students at two points last year were failing math because they did not hand in their work. Although, for your benefit, you conveeeeeeniently left out the parts where I gave them opportunities to bring up thier grade, most of them bringing up their grade quite a bit.

You said that Simon has gone through numerous bouts of unemployment in the past four yearsOne.

My eyes decieve me!
"Simon is another good example of what a lender would consider stably employed in spite of several periods of unemployment in the past 4 years "

You are wrong, so I will happily correct you. In the first place, most telemarketing jobs pay a base plus commission. My base at the newspaper was $5.15 an hour. My sales commissions added another $20-25 per hour to that. The $9.00 an hour (base) job you're thinking of was a work from home position I was considering after the newspaper. I didn't take it.

I vaguely remember you possibly telling me in the last month or two you were working somewhere but I cant remember. I assumed it was this place. Right now off the top of my head, I cant remember where you are working.

Only if you've lied on your postings here, Marcie. Because EVERYTHING she said came directly from your postings.

Everything she used came right from our postings. Sabrina seems to think that Ive been fired or not invited back from my last three jobs. Which I keep pointing out to her, is simply not the case; but she doesnt seem to care about the truth at all.

She took a comment about my bike and then proceeded to take the MSRP for a 08 model off the Honda webpage which is a completely different model than my 05 bike. She doesn't even have a clue what I have because she wrote in length about the bells and whistles I have on my bike (lol if only that were true), and said I got one of the higher levels of the bike. Well the 05 didn't have levels. ABS and non-abs were it, and I got the non-abs. Second, you dont have to pay msrp, and I didnt. Thirdly, I put on about 300 bucks worth of stuff onto the bike, hardly as much as she implies. When I wrote in length on how she was wrong in so many ways on her blog, she simply deleted it, reminding me that while she can write in detail insulting and going off on me any which way she chooses, I can't reply back...even if she is completely wrong. Just one example of taking something, distorting it and using it to ones advantage.

That's what I've been trying to tell you all, but nobody wants to listen to the raving Jesus freak.

LW here, momentarily on Emp's account...

Reading back over some of Zig's other posts, they're ALL full of grammatical mistakes, every single one of them. Call me a grammar nazi, I'm not the one presenting myself as a teacher of children, a creature to be revered as all knowing and God-like in my wisdom, knowing what's best for your children in spite of your own parental instincts.

Hey Ziggy, hukt on fonix werkd fer me.