[quote who="Daiwa" reply="1465" id="3424271"] Quoting GeomanNL, reply 1461But why would the temperature be rising for the past 100 years if it isn't CO2? Has it?[/quote] Geoman - that is a good question. And the answer is - even for the propents of AGW - that we do not know. The sun just finished its largest Solar maxima in the past 300 years. Did that cause the temperatures to rise? I do not know. But it is something t
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[quote who="Jafo" reply="1447" id="3423935"]No....just every second commenter to the thread [call it a cull]....[/quote] Whew! That means we are all safe. We are up to the 1400s. I pitty the second commenter. ;-)
[quote who="Daiwa" reply="1441" id="3423572"]You know anything on WAWT is on the forbidden reading list.[/quote] I am just a naive seeker of truth and data. I was not aware it was forbidden fruit. I will ask Joe to pen his explanation on a neutral site. As long as the team allows him to that is. ;-)
[quote who="Daiwa" reply="1267" id="3421693"]*Edit: NOAA simply "predicted" the prior 30-year average for 2012, then upped the ante for 2013, based on what it's unclear.[/quote] Joe Bastardi also predicted an over active season. And he bit the bullet and admitted he was wrong and how. It was an excellent read. I will try to find it for you. Here it is: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/11/25/2013-slowest-hurricane-season-in-30-years/#comment-1484188<b
[quote who="Jafo" reply="1082" id="3416758"]'et voila' .... Spell checker ...[/quote]French are hard! ;-)
60" Smart LED TV. Thursday night. first (and hopefully last) Black Friday trip for me.
[quote who="Jafo" reply="72" id="3421631"]you don't need magnetic boots to cling to the underside of the planet....[/quote] no boots, just beer! [e digicons]:beer:[/e]
[quote who="Kantok" reply="71" id="3421627"]If I had to guess, and I'm sure that DrGuy will correct me if he disagrees, he means that societies that fought and died for their rights do more to ingrain protection of those rights into the documents that form the basis for government. [/quote] That is indeed a big part of it. Well said.
[quote who="Ekko_Tek" reply="70" id="3421622"]Really? In what way did the American Revolution make a big difference. Or rather, "a big difference" in what way? It sounds like you are trying to say a constitution born of revolution is superior to a democratic constitution that arose from non-violent means. Is that what you are saying?[/quote] The American revolution was unique in its time for 2 reasons. They defeated the worlds most powerful imperialist empire, and they decided t
[quote who="Jafo" reply="52" id="3414642"]I'd like to think the US Govt is 'above' rolling over its citizenry ..[/quote] Really? Obamacare taught you nothing? The NSA? The TSA? Roll over beethoven.
[quote who="Jafo" reply="24" id="3414211"]Native Americans....Incans....Aztecs..... Arming the US populace clearly didn't help everyone equally....[/quote] Probably because "those Native Americans....Incans...Aztecs" never fell under the US Constitution. One is from South America (Peru actually), and the other Mexico (which has never been under the US jurisdiction). Now if you are talking Mattaponi, Souix, Apache or Navahoe....
[quote who="Jafo" reply="9" id="3414151"]Meanwhile....much of the rest of the world gets by quite satisfactorily WITHOUT a mis-interpreted agendafied 'Constitution' and an armed populace scared of their own government.[/quote] Most of the rest of the world did not fight for their freedom from Tyranny. Makes a big difference. How's that free speech of yours? Can you talk about the carbon tax yet?
Shame I missed the overly political paragraphs. But the remainder is excellent! Both Den Beste and your comments. And exactly right.
Then there are these facts that show Obama is lying: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/19/woman-cited-by-president-as-obamacare-success-story-frustrated-by-sign-up-process/ But somehow that never makes the MSM. Why? Because a liberal is lying.
Your headline does not match the story. Cikomyr lies? Hannity may have been duped. Hannity may have lied. Hannity may have an agenda. But we know 2 things. #1 - Hannity is not Fox News. He is a COMMENTATOR #2 - The author of your piece lies. The stories are true if the people are not. We know #2 because of the following. #1 - While companies with less than 49 employees are
Just as he does not need permission, neither do I. Yes, hypocrisy is part of it. But mixed with a massive amount of condescension and arrogance. Due to the liberal bleat, some think they have more rights than others. And that is their biggest disappointment when they find out it is not so.
[quote who="psychoak" reply="1023" id="3414549"]- Rising sea acidity. It's called marble, grind it up, pollute the oceans with it. We use tons of the stuff for antacid. Much of the acidification is completely unrelated to atmospheric CO2 though. Nitrogen fertilizers.[/quote] Actually the sea does not have "rising acidity". It is less base, but still base. By a considerable degree.
[quote who="Jafo" reply="968" id="3412196"]OK....the reason Australia is such a warm place is that it's on the bottom of the world and has the pressure of the whole planet pushing on it and heating it up...[/quote] Lucky for you since cold air sinks. If not for the pressure heating you up, you would be a Popsicle! ;-) [quote who="Daiwa" reply="969" id="3412198"]Lucky thing, too, Jafo, or you'd be freezin your ass off.[/quote] Ok, what he sa
[quote who="Jafo" reply="915" id="3409017"]Yes, this STILL applies.[/quote] While I admit I have not read every comment, for the most part, the discussion has been civil. A hat tip to you and your moderating. Good job! [quote who="Jafo" reply="921" id="3409717"]I'll even supply you the magnetic boots so you don't fall off..[/quote] Keep the boots. Supply the Beer! ;-)
[quote who="GeomanNL" reply="886" id="3407925"]It isn't. It's not going to be "fact" until you can show the world measurements that are completely free of noise and artifacts.[/quote] That is a good concept to follow. Perhaps if the "team" used that standard, we would still be doing science instead of hysterics.
[quote who="GeomanNL" reply="872" id="3407478"]There isn't a lag ... that's a myth http://phys.org/news/2012-07-temperatures-co2-climate.html [/quote] You should read your own source: "Our analyses of ice cores from the ice sheet in Antarctica shows that the concentration of CO2 in t
[quote who="Ekko_Tek" reply="850" id="3407038"]2. Thank you for at least citing a source, more than most arguing against AGW. However, the paper you cited only deals with surface temperatures not increasing as much as expected by the models, which we've already dealt with a number of times in this thread. Surface temperatures account for a very small percentage of total increased heat.[/quote] #1 - Please show me where I have argued against AGW. #2 - AGW is about surface t
[quote who="flagyl" reply="848" id="3407020"]You have no idea, do you?[/quote] I most certainly do. However I do not dance to your tune. When you decide to pay for my social life, I will report when I am available to you and at what times. Not before.
[quote who="flagyl" reply="846" id="3407017"]No absorb this-You play semantics. [/quote] Science is not semantics. If you are clueless about the issue, please bone up on it. The issue is heat retention, not heat generation. Mann, Trenberth, Briffa, Jones, et. al. have clearly stated that the cause of the warming is NOT the sun, hence it is NOT additional heat. That is not semantics. That is called science.
The checks and balances are not functioning. We have no independent press. In time, the Internet may supplant the printer (and broadcast) press. But for now, it will not unravel due to lack of over sight.