Ted Kennedy calls out Bush on Iraq

By: sqrrldrw Posted: Friday, January 28, 2005 on sqrrldrw Message Board: Democrat Senator Ted Kennedy shows himself to be the elder statesman and advocates wisdom and diplomacy in Iraq in his speech to the John Hopkins School of International Studies. At the end of the speech he calls out Bush to "swallow his pride and end our country’s continuing failures in Iraq and in the eyes of the world." Finally, a Democrat with a backbone. Perhaps there is a pulse in the party after all.

He may have a backbone, but Mr. Chappaquiddick is minus a brain.

Right, and when do we send the terrorists and insurgents the route, time table and air lanes we are going to use to pull them out after we give them the due date?

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He may have a backbone, but Mr. Chappaquiddick is minus a brain.

The only backbone he has is from Jim Beam.

Only to Democrats could a strategy of running away be considered brave.

 

If the majority were to rule in Iraq, they would end up with a Shiite theocracy, right?

Then Iraq would buddy-up with Iran.

Then we'll have three theocracies in the reigon: Iran, Iraq, and the USA

"Brave Sir Teddy ran away - No!
Bravely ran away, away - I didn't!
When danger reared its ugly head
He bravely turned his tail and fled - No!
Yes, brave Sir Teddy turned about
And gallantly he chickened out
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat
Bravest of the brave, Sir Teddy"

If there is one thing we know about Sen Ted Kennedy it is that he does see wisdom in skipping out with his butt intact, no matter who he leaves behind to die.

It must feel great to know that your speech is greeted with nods of approval from terrorists all over the world...

Get your trolling finger ready, because I am gonna say it. This is a treasonous statement. It undermines our efforts, attacks our morale at home and in Iraq, and reinforces the stance of our enemies. And why? Just to promote his political agenda and grandstand for his party. There's no other word for it, in my opinion. To call ongoing military efforts "continuing failures" is the height of opportunism.

Simple words won't change anything, especially from an aged-boned sissy DEMOCRATS! Hah! They even let stupid countryside people choose stupid BUSH again!

It's amazing people keep electing this guy.

It's a fact that terrorists keep track of politics in the U.S. regarding the war and terrorism. I'm sure they view Kennedy as a friend.

Why can our country not get good people to run for President? It looks like the political operatives and special intrests control who can run and get the moeny needed!

If the majority were to rule in Iraq, they would end up with a Shiite theocracy, right? Then Iraq would buddy-up with Iran. Then we'll have three theocracies in the reigon: Iran, Iraq, and the USA

No, Actually, neither the majority in any of those countries wants a theocracy.  And Iraq qill not get one.  Iran got one due to a knee jerk reaction, and a MAJORITY are regretting it.  Since when have you been forced to join a church?

Nice stupid answer.

It's a fact that terrorists keep track of politics in the U.S. regarding the war and terrorism. I'm sure they view Kennedy as a friend.

I heard Al Jazeera played the tape for Osama Obama, errr, OSama, Barrakk, errr  Osama bin Laden!

(BTW:  That is what Teddy called Barack Obama!  And he is their spokesman?  ROFL!)

Get your trolling finger ready, because I am gonna say it. This is a treasonous statement. It undermines our efforts, attacks our morale at home and in Iraq, and reinforces the stance of our enemies. And why? Just to promote his political agenda and grandstand for his party. There's no other word for it, in my opinion. To call ongoing military efforts "continuing failures" is the height of opportunism.

Nail on the head award, baker. I want this war to end as badly as anyone, but I don't think THIS is the way to accomplish it! The Democrats are still fuming over an election that they had in their hands (just campaign on the issues, not how crappy you think the Bush admin is, dummies!), and lost because of their bitter outlook.

I forced myself to read the whole thing (wasn't easy).

What a crock of pointless drivel. Just the same old Teddy rants, not one concrete suggestion for doing it better. Talks out of both sides of his mouth - we don't have enough soldiers there to get the job done, but our presence is so "oppressive". Seems to think everything will magically get better as soon as we mount up & ride out of town. He hasn't had any credibility in 30 years, still doesn't. Nicest thing I can say about him is that he's a sad joke. On the other hand, I can see how bailing & getting as far away from the scene as quickly as possible would strike him as a good strategy for getting out of any jam.

Cheers,
Daiwa

The Democrats have lost the pulse of the people, in fact, there probably isn't a democrat whose heart beats for the people anymore. How much more killing will there be of the common person in America? Jobs are being killed, medical benefits are being killed, soldiers are being killed in Iraq and now, Social Security, a promise to the people, a reward for a life's hard work from a government you could once trust and proudly salute is the next killing target for George Bush, the shootin' cowboy from Texas.
Guys like him almost wiped out the buffalo in America. It seems Republicans care about the survival of institutions and business
rather than the survival of human beings. I'd rather be a democrat that gives a panhandler my hand with a coin rather that a Republican that extends his empty hand to shake to get your vote. I have a lot more to say but, maybe later.

In poll after poll, Americans do not agree with Bush on is second term agenda or the war. Seems like both the Democrats and Republicans have lost touch with Americans!

Only to Democrats could a strategy of running away be considered brave.

Do you have kids? How about we send them over, and then see how you feel. Tough talk is easy, when you or your kids aren't in the line of fire.

Do you have kids? How about we send them over, and then see how you feel. Tough talk is easy, when you or your kids aren't in the line of fire.

Do you have kids over there? If so, how do you feel about Teddy telling them that their efforts are a failure, and that if they die, they'll be dying for nothing. Do you think troops with resolve and a positive attitude are more or less apt to do well?

Do you think troops that are constantly accused of being "invaders", who are assumed to be commiting "atrocities" at will, and who are being told that they will enevitably lose will be apt to succeed?

Do you have the slightest understanding of the term "psycholocial warfare", or "propaganda"? If statements like this don't effect the fighting ability of a military, why do we use these exact statements as a weapon against OUR enemies during a time of war?

So, basically Ted Kennedy is using psychological warfare against the people of the US and our own troops, all to make himself look good for his party. Nice, huh? He's not fighting for Allah, or taking over the world, he's just ass-kissing and grandstanding and biting his own nation on the ass to do it. What a patriot... Maybe if a few thousand more troops die the Dems might gain a seat or two in the House. That makes it worth it, right?

What can I add to all the wealth of info here about ted.... but I feel quoting ted is best..

as he said just 3 days ago quite firmly "brzxdsn geinonahh frhiantrgkpo" gimmee nusher drinkie damn it

"as he said just 3 days ago quite firmly "brzxdsn geinonahh frhiantrgkpo" gimmee nusher drinkie damn it"

The image isn't complete unless you picture him saying it with his pants around his ankles...

Reply By: colgene(Anonymous User)Posted: Saturday, January 29, 2005In poll after poll, Americans do not agree with Bush on is second term agenda or the war. Seems like both the Democrats and Republicans have lost touch with Americans!

ummmm are you speaking for all americans??? cause is do not remember talking to you and I agree thats it fight em there or fight em here..

Reply By: BakerStreetPosted: Saturday, January 29, 2005"as he said just 3 days ago quite firmly "brzxdsn geinonahh frhiantrgkpo" gimmee nusher drinkie damn it"The image isn't complete unless you picture him saying it with his pants around his ankles...

wading thru a pond leaving behind dead females?

Reply By: JTurnasPosted: Saturday, January 29, 2005Only to Democrats could a strategy of running away be considered brave.Do you have kids? How about we send them over, and then see how you feel. Tough talk is easy, when you or your kids aren't in the line of fire.

I talk tough and fought tough in wartime.... whats yer point?

"swallow his pride and end our country’s continuing failures in Iraq and in the eyes of the world."

That's coming from the guy who said we didn't have enough troops in country just a few weeks ago. Now he is implying that we are only there because Bush is unwilling to "swallow his pride"? What? He's telling us that all the American deaths are because Bush is too proud to change his mind at the last minute...right before the elections no less? Does he really expect us to buy that? He thinks we shoudl what, just walk away and leave before a new democratic government is established? If we did do that we would STILL fail in the eyes of the world for not supporting the new government. So are we supposed to care what the world thinks or do what is right?

Reply By: lifehappensPosted: Saturday, January 29, 2005"swallow his pride and end our country’s continuing failures in Iraq and in the eyes of the world." That's coming from the guy who said we didn't have enough troops in country just a few weeks ago. Now he is implying that we are only there because Bush is unwilling to "swallow his pride"? What? He's telling us that all the American deaths are because Bush is too proud to change his mind at the last minute...right before the elections no less? Does he really expect us to buy that? He thinks we shoudl what, just walk away and leave before a new democratic government is established? If we did do that we would STILL fail in the eyes of the world for not supporting the new government. So are we supposed to care what the world thinks or do what is right?

yep thats our senator ted... always ready to run and hide at SOMEONE elses expense... sighhhhhhhhh my hero...