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Start11 1.0 Issue Report Thread

Start11 1.0 Issue Report Thread

With the Start11 1.0 release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining Start11 1.0

Object Desktop members can get the release from within Object Desktop Manager 

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

For guest check-out purchase (no account), from this link: http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)
  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen
  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive services (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube) and links included in your post.  Images can be directly added.
  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

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Reply #76 Top

Start menu All Apps scrolling is only partially working in the Windows 10 style - you can hold-drag the scroll bar OK, but not get it to move by clicking on the area below the slider or using the mouse scroll wheel. Otherwise a great app!

Reply #77 Top

Follow-up:

I hope Stardock staff are watching this thread closely.  Can someone from Stardock please acknowledge the issues reported thus far?  I do NOT mean to sound "rude" or anything, but there are quite a number of issues being reported, especially for a "Version 1.0" product.  I loved Start 8 and 10.  I loved ModernMix for Windows 8.  (That was a life-saver.)  Hope Stardock shows Start11 some love SOON!  :-)  P.S.: An ETA would be nice, too.  (THANK YOU!)

Reply #78 Top

Quoting Omnimaxus, reply 77

Follow-up:

I hope Stardock staff are watching this thread closely.  Can someone from Stardock please acknowledge the issues reported thus far?  I do NOT mean to sound "rude" or anything, but there are quite a number of issues being reported, especially for a "Version 1.0" product.  I loved Start 8 and 10.  I loved ModernMix for Windows 8.  (That was a life-saver.)  Hope Stardock shows Start11 some love SOON!  :)   P.S.: An ETA would be nice, too.  (THANK YOU!)

We are always watching (that sounds creepy).

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

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Reply #79 Top

No problems whatsoever except I would still like the option to add a fully functioning recycle bin on the taskbar as well as hide the corner icons. I attached a screenshot of a freeware program called MiniBin which adds this feature to the corner icons so I know this is workable under Windows 11. Minibin uses very little system recourses and has zero affect on system performance other then an added convenience. Minibin also allows the flexibility to change your recycle bin icon to anything you like. One other feature that Windows 11 removed which makes zero since with center placed taskbar option is having the ability to stack open icons. Microsoft removing this feature under Windows 11 makes no since. 

Reply #80 Top

Device name DESKTOP-R0P79RN

Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor                3.60 GHz

Installed RAM 32.0 GB

Device ID C6CB2F53-8B5D-4D72-BF84-0DB698FE970B

Product ID 00330-52609-71243-AAOEM

System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display

 

Edition Windows 11 Pro

Version 21H2

Installed on ‎11/‎6/‎2021

OS build 22000.282

Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.318.0

 

Issue is selecting configure start 11 (right click taskbar) brings up the product but leaves artifacts at my taskbar.  I cannot snip these screenshots, as the artifacts clear up for such snips but reappear when snip is cleared.  So using cell phone.  Screen refresh does not clear.

 

 

Reply #81 Top

can I make a feature request here?

- can it be done that when I press CTL+ALT (or some other key combo) and click on an app to execute it with admin privilege?

Reply #82 Top

Quoting zme-ul, reply 81

can I make a feature request here?

- can it be done that when I press CTL+ALT (or some other key combo) and click on an app to execute it with admin privilege?

Ctrl plus shift does what you want.

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Reply #83 Top

Quoting Tzon, reply 62

1. Document shortcuts open libraries instead of just the default documents folder. Libraries are becoming obsolete, so I think it is a good idea to dismiss them. 

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2. The Windows Terminal shortcut does not work. 

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3. Apps and programs have been (optionally) merged to the same folder, which is something I had requested in the past and is now a feature! Thanks for that :)  

Do you have Microsoft Terminal installed?

It is not installed by default on Windows 10.

Reply #85 Top

Option to disable balloon tips. One of my programs has tool bars on the bottom and sometimes the blonde tips come up and cover the toolbar and I can't use the toolbar. There use to be a way to do it in windows registry but it doesn't seem to work with start 11. 

Reply #86 Top

Having no idea why this won't upload. I changed the size.

Reply #87 Top

Problems with Search

I have set Start 11 not to use Start 11 Search - this gives me the preferred look of the start menu without a search box. However I still use start search, and when I do it inevitably misses out a few letters while it's loading the other search panel. So for example, I'll type Windows Key + spotify and the search panel will open having done a search for 'potify'. 

 

Problems quitting Start 11

Not sure what I'm supposed to do to quit the program? There is no taskbar icon I can right click, and no option in the program (I understand you can turn off all the features, but I'm guessing the program will still run). It would be good to have a quit option either in the system tray or main window. Similarly it would be good to have an option in the main program to say whether I want the program to run on start up.

At the moment if I want to quit Start 11 it looks like I'd need to use Task Manager, and I'm not sure where to go to adjust start up options.

If I'm missing something please let me know.

 

Reply #88 Top

Previous comments about tile spacing removed. I misunderstood what 'show more tiles' etc. means.  Me being silly and not testing fully. 

Many thanks for a program that meets a genuine need. I notice there is a lot of publicity for Start11 and hope it catches on. 
It seems to me that we cannot have a 'one size fits all' approach to the Windows GUI so Microsoft is in an impossible position.
Clearly, making it better for some makes it worse for others!

Reply #89 Top

The reason for the large space is because you enabled "show more tiles" and you haven't placed anything in the 4th column - this was the same in real Win10

 

Reply #90 Top

When you set ur taskbar to be small it only does it on the middle screen and on the extra monitors it only makes the icons small but not the bar itself

Reply #91 Top

Quoting whistlerpro, reply 87

Problems with Search

I have set Start 11 not to use Start 11 Search - this gives me the preferred look of the start menu without a search box. However I still use start search, and when I do it inevitably misses out a few letters while it's loading the other search panel. So for example, I'll type Windows Key + spotify and the search panel will open having done a search for 'potify'. 

 

Problems quitting Start 11

Not sure what I'm supposed to do to quit the program? There is no taskbar icon I can right click, and no option in the program (I understand you can turn off all the features, but I'm guessing the program will still run). It would be good to have a quit option either in the system tray or main window. Similarly it would be good to have an option in the main program to say whether I want the program to run on start up.

At the moment if I want to quit Start 11 it looks like I'd need to use Task Manager, and I'm not sure where to go to adjust start up options.

If I'm missing something please let me know.

 

Start11 is not a product that has a 'quit' function.  It is designed to be a native integrated feature of the OS so like the Windows Start Menu, you can't quit it.  Closing the processes will not stop Start11 once it has started.  You can stop it loading in a given session using the Start10tweak app included in the install directory.

With regards to the search issue, that surprises me as whilst Start10 had a problem with loss of keystrokes, Start11 changed things to avoid that and we have not had further reports of this.  If you only want the no search look you can hide the search field and keep the Start11 search.

Reply #92 Top

Quoting glassylook, reply 86

Having no idea why this won't upload. I changed the size.

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We have this resolved for a future update.

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Reply #93 Top

Ok thanks for the reply. Yes using Start 11 search has no such issue and is much slicker. I guess anyone who wants to use the native search will still experience that issue though. 

I appreciate what you're saying about Start 11 being so tightly integrated that quitting would be difficult to implement, however I still think it would be good to be able to configure whether or not you want Start 11 to open on start up from within the app. That way if you really did want to disable it you could flip the switch and just log out/restart.

Reply #94 Top

Quoting whistlerpro, reply 93

I appreciate what you're saying about Start 11 being so tightly integrated that quitting would be difficult to implement, however I still think it would be good to be able to configure whether or not you want Start 11 to open on start up from within the app. That way if you really did want to disable it you could flip the switch and just log out/restart.

If your goal is to be able to use the native Start menu in Windows at any point of your choosing, you can do that with this option:

If you want a more prominent option, just select it as a style:

If you want it still installed but not running on boot, you can disable the service:

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

Reply #95 Top

Is there any plan, when 1.1 will be ready?

I plan to switch to Win11, but I want to wait until I can import my actual startmenu into Start11.

I installed Switch11 on my test-system and really like it. Thanks for that!

Udo

Reply #96 Top

Quoting oduudo, reply 95

Is there any plan, when 1.1 will be ready?

Soon-ish.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

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Reply #97 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 91

With regards to the search issue, that surprises me as whilst Start10 had a problem with loss of keystrokes, Start11 changed things to avoid that and we have not had further reports of this.  If you only want the no search look you can hide the search field and keep the Start11 search.

I'm also experiencing this on Windows 11 (I specifically noticed it in the Windows 11 style). I have the "Use Start11 search in the Start11 start menu" option turned off and the "Hide search box unless searching" option on. Often when I begin searching after clicking the start button, the first letter can get left out. If I perform a search, click on the taskbar, then click on the Windows button to do a search again, nothing happens the second time. I need to click somewhere else first (on an open app, or on an icon that opens an app) before I can search again.

Another problem I'm having is that I can't pin new items to the start menu in any style in Start11, and if I unpin something, I can't get it back. Pinning works fine in the native start menu, but pinned items aren't working for me in Start11.

Finally, there's a large gap (blank space) between the pinned items I do see and the bottom of the start menu (in Windows 11 style). This is a gap within the start menu (not a gap between the start menu and the taskbar), and it would be nice if Start11 removed that extra space and only opened the start menu as tall as the amount of apps you have pinned.

Reply #98 Top

Hi I'm trying Start11, just to report that when I set Taskbar on Top on Windows 11, when I click to open Windows toggles it appear cutted on the top. When the taskbar is on the bottom, the toggles box is ok. Thank's

 

Windows Toggles

Reply #99 Top

Quoting w64bit, reply 21

Windows 7 style - search box issues:

- search text is italic. It should be regular (not italic)

- bottom left of the input box is clipping input text. You can see this when you are typing words starting with p or j.

Shift + right click on taskbar is not working anymore with Start11.


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The italic search text is something I'd love changed, too. Moreover, entering certain characters into the search textbox causes the caret to accumulate (positive or negative, depending on the character) positioning error:



Reply #100 Top

Is there any ETA for the curtains fix yet (that affects start11 centre icons)?  Last week it was said late last week or this week.  It's now Thursday and still no update (I know we technically still have 1 day left but still).

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