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Militant Progressives

How dare I even speak!

November 14, 2016 1:34:42 AM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums

One thing that always seems to define modern left wing people, and I'm talking about the progressives who burn people in effigy and smash storefronts, not the classical liberal that you saw dancing at Woodstock festivals; is the idea that only their beliefs are valid. Its not just that they believe their ideas are the only ones that can be valid, but that any other point of view is vile, and not only vile, but borderline criminal. It is an offense so egregious to oppose their set of beliefs that they simply cannot tolerate listening. You are vile, obscene, a neanderthal! Its debatable, but such closed minds and militant beliefs that can't even entertain the notion of a better way of doing things is a sure sign of backwardness and corruption. Is it really just a defense mechanism at this point for them to be so unable to engage in a debate about ideas and almost as volatile as nitroglycerin when such topics arise? They make George Orwell seem less and less like a creative writer and more and more like a prophet with each passing day.

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Reply #1 November 14, 2016 9:04:16 AM
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They didn't realize how close they were to the truth with their slogan.  They just had it backwards.  Hate trumps love.

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Reply #2 November 14, 2016 3:35:54 PM
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Yeah, I keep hearing about Trump hate crimes, but the only real violence seems to be coming from the left who are burning people in effigy, smashing storefronts, and clobbering innocent people.

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Reply #3 November 27, 2016 1:57:50 PM
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Quoting ,
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One thing that always seems to define modern left wing people, and I'm talking about the progressives who burn people in effigy and smash storefronts, not the classical liberal that you saw dancing at Woodstock festivals; is the idea that only their beliefs are valid. Its not just that they believe their ideas are the only ones that can be valid, but that any other point of view is vile, and not only vile, but borderline criminal. It is an offense so egregious to oppose their set of beliefs, that they simply cannot tolerate listening. You are vile, obscene, a neanderthal! Its debatable,but such closed minds with such militant beliefs that can't even entertain the notion that a better way of doing things could exist, is a sure sign of backwardness and corruption. Is it really just a defense mechanism at this point for them to be so unable to engage in a debate about ideas and almost as volatile as nitroglycerin when such topics arise? They make George Orwell seem less and less like a creative writer and more and more like a prophet with each passing day.

 

Perhaps this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black? Just a few examples. I can post more if you want.

When people feel threatened they act out.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/11/18/update-incidents-hateful-harassment-election-day-now-number-701

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/27/three_california_mosques_receive_letters_praising_trump_threatening_muslim.html

http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/06/06/trump-supporters-pepper-spray-non-violent-protesters-video/

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/11/we_got_some_hillary_b-----s_on.html

 

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Reply #4 November 29, 2016 6:00:41 PM
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I'm sure you can post more... feel free, but don't expect me to bother. I didn't bother watching Fahrenheit 911 either cause I had better things to do than figure out if anything Moore had to say had anything at all to do with reality.

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Reply #5 February 6, 2017 12:14:59 AM
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And we find the Black Church in MS. that was reported to have been spray painted by pro-Trump supporters, turned out to be a church member. Can't even go a week without thinks like the Berkley and NYC riots occurring. What is even more incredible is not that liberals are butthurt over the election, but the longevity of that butthurt. Trump could personally cure cancer and they would still be marching. I wonder if Trump would get the same treatment if he were black? Would the racist label still be hurled about, like it was for anyone disagreeing with Obama's policies? Or is banning some people from some predominately Muslim (a religion, not a race) racist, but banning Cubans fleeing Castro is not?

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Reply #6 February 6, 2017 8:03:45 PM
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His election doesn't bother me so much. We still have checks and balances. What concerns me is that Trump supporters willfully disregarding slimy things he has done while getting their panties in a knot over Clinton's record. Trump was right when he made the "I can shoot someone in the middle of the street and no one will care" comment.

It concerns me when people blindly believe anything he says, and defend everything he does. It's almost like the Cult of Trump.

I viewed Clinton as the lesser of two evils. However, I'm under no delusion that she would be some sort of savior, or that she would put the country's interest ahead of her own. 

But I get the impression that many Trump supporters view him as such.

 

Quoting Nitro Cruiser,
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And we find the Black Church in MS. that was reported to have been spray painted by pro-Trump supporters, turned out to be a church member. Can't even go a week without thinks like the Berkley and NYC riots occurring. What is even more incredible is not that liberals are butthurt over the election, but the longevity of that butthurt. Trump could personally cure cancer and they would still be marching. I wonder if Trump would get the same treatment if he were black? Would the racist label still be hurled about, like it was for anyone disagreeing with Obama's policies? Or is banning some people from some predominately Muslim (a religion, not a race) racist, but banning Cubans fleeing Castro is not?

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Reply #7 February 6, 2017 9:43:35 PM
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If they are so deplorable,
why aren't the majority of Trump supporters violent protesters?
Mirror mirror on the wall who is really the most deplorable of all?

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Reply #8 February 7, 2017 10:26:37 AM
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Quoting Iben,
reply 7

If they are so deplorable,
why aren't the majority of Trump supporters violent protesters?
Mirror mirror on the wall who is really the most deplorable of all?


 

The majority of Clinton supporters aren't violent either.

Blanket assumptions just create an "us vs. them" mentality that's not good for anyone except the politicians.

Note that I said many Trump supporters. I did not say the majority.

Further you're implying that I said deplorable, which I did not. That's called a straw man.

 

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Reply #9 February 7, 2017 6:45:48 PM
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It's just the paid Clinton supporters that are violent.

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Reply #10 February 8, 2017 7:45:02 AM
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Quoting Borg999,
reply 8

That's called a straw man
I was more a fan of the cowardly lion... his search for courage was compelling.

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Reply #11 February 11, 2017 2:45:10 PM
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Senator Ben Sasse: I'm A Constitutional Warrior Before I'm A Partisan | Morning Joe | MSNBC

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Reply #12 February 11, 2017 3:49:05 PM
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The premise pushed by Barnicle & Joe that Trump is trying to 'de-legitimize the judiciary' is BS, completely bogus - to build this mountain of outrage over the molehill of a figure of speech decrying a judge's clearly unconstitutional and legally threadbare decision is absurd, but then, the Left.  If Trump really wanted to mount a campaign to de-legitimize the judiciary, you'd know it.  Publicly objecting to a decision is not an attempt to thwart or de-legitimize 'the judiciary'.  Just ask Obama (Citizens United).  The left loved it when he lambasted and attempted to humiliate the SCOTUS.  So cry me a river over an effing tweet.

That aside, I'm with Sasse all the way.  He's a very articulate & solid guy.

And isn't it awesome to see the left awaken to the Constitution, to the harm tribal/identity politics & the notion of 'resistance' does, and to the virtues of a Ben Sasse?  For that, we can thank Donald Trump.

 

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