I hope so, I hate RTS!

MOAR TBS!!!!

When they first came out, I didn't really get why I would want to play them over TBS.

It lacked the time to actually think about your strategy and often was not complex enough to make that necessary anyways.

StarCraft changed that a littlebit and was quite fun to play in multiplayer.

But it soon became obvious, that these games were all about speed. People only played the highest speed-setting and henceforth it was not about who comes up with the best strategy but who was fast enough to actually execute them on the highest speed-setting.

When two even armies collide it was all about who could form a good arc right before that happened and who can constanly use all unit-special-abilities at the right time on the right target while withdrawing the wounded units.

Only people with very much practice were able to execute this close enough to perfection to compete.

What I liked most about them, was that a mulitplayer-match had a very definite timespan. But Moba, which essentially is a RTS, where you control only one unit does the same with a much lower cap to how fast you have to be. Thus LoL's followership has grown way over the one of StarCraft 2.

And when it comes to Singleplayer, I still see absolutely no reason, why I would prefer a stressfull RTS over the relaxation that a TBS can give.

Just a way for the developer to justifly making a shitty looking moba game.

Speed is important but there is still very deep and complex strategy involved. People who play SC2 at a high level don't just act quickly, they think and make decisions quickly as well.

Hahaha, Mr. Fraser would surely love your tactful choice of words, if he happens to read this.

I have also been of this opinon for the last few years. True there are still some big sellers but RTS has been bleeding maket share for quite a while and the we have seen a total lack of innovation in this genre for quite awhile. Compared to any other genre RTS has seen far less change and new ideas.

I thought Company of Heroes was innovative.  Why am I wrong?

Geez, what is with all the hate from the TBS people. I thought most people who liked strategy games liked both. 

I don't think so. Case in point (for me, at least): http://stardrivegame.com/

Seems like RTS has hit this wall of "what the hell do we do now?"

Also idk what's with the hate from the TBS guys. I find RTS more entertaining in that you can instantly respond rather than having to wait the turn to do something.

What hate are you all moaning about?

I may hate RTS games, but that doesn't mean I can't recognize that some of them are very well executed.  I just hate them, they are not fun for me to play and I find the mechanics in most of them to be tedious and repetitive.  Same as playing FPSs honestly, not my cup of tea. 

Again, that's no comment on their actual merits, just that I hate them.  The same way I hate eggplant, even though it's a perfectly delicious food to other people.

I just find it strange. I mean Total War is probably the most successful TBS series behind Civ, and you have RTS elements in that. And while I understand that some of them can be too fast past or just feel like a management simulator (I couldn't get into Wargames: European Escalation because it was just all tactics to me), I don't really see them as being that different. If you like TBS games but have never ever played an RTS game you liked, I don't think you've really examined the genre closely.

And another point, the OP who posted this was posting from an RTS forum, about RTS and MOBA games. There was no reason to even bring up TBS. To my knowledge us Sins gamers don't go to Elemental's home turf and hate on it.

AND!  You shouldn't play board games because puzzles are cooler.

And you shouldn't do puzzles when you can make your own ship in a bottle.

AND!...