Holy Sh$t Frogboy is talking again, so glad to see you back!

Ok so I have basically had to give up DG because of the connection issues. I dealt with the lag often while in the states and would still just because the game play is awesome and really out shines most every other pvp game out there when its working, but now across the world i cannot get a connection to more than 3 people it seems. Maybe 4 if they are all from somewhere near by (i've gotten 1 2v2 game since moving to thailand). That said the connectivity has to be worked out and everyone knows that. 

I agree that 12 characters is enough because of the skill tree system (simply a great feature imo). Some trees need to be tweaked so they are a bit more used and tempting to play with though.

If DGII does get made I think it should have a larger variety of viable items. While there are quite a few items in DG really only half of them ever get used and there are some that get used no matter what character you are playing. Putting some love into these forgotten items could make other skill tree options more viable and make the game more interesting. Also new items every now and then is one way i think that up dates could be made simply, attracting the players that LOVE every new shinny thing that comes out, while not having to invent new characters. Having TONS of new characters screams LOL to me and while I play LOL and i like it I don't need or want DG to be that game. DG is already the better game when it is running smoothly. Honestly in LOL i wish i had options as far as my powers with a character like i do in DG. 

The DG character balance needs to be addressed as well if there are only going to be the same 12 character in the future (and i do love the current cast). There is a clear cut (unintentional i'm guessing) tier system of the characters and it really does limit the combination of teams if you want a balanced match. 

A good match making system would be really nice. Connection and match making are pretty much the main reasons i play LOL. Its a cheaper game in terms of actual game play quality but its easy to get a game and lag is not a issue in 90% of them. 

Oh, whoever started the idea of new skins and stuff for accomplishments has a great idea. I would like to have the option of making my fav character look different from other people playing.

I would buy DG II in just about any format as long as I could connect with my friends online. Right now I can't do that and i can in other games. Also plz don't change the game formula too much it really is a great concept that just had a couple of technical issues that truly limited its potential.

Make models importable from verus programs (modo, maya, and blender.)

Create a small group of individuals from demigod community with either programming or artistic abilities to create new free demigods.

One thing that I believe has been neglected in this forum is REPLAYS.

Currently the replay system in Demigod is pretty much broken. The replays buttons/UI begin to break after the speed has been touched to many times etc... SC2 and many other games have excellent replay options,management etc.... I would like to see an improved replay system in a Demigod 2.

*Agree on skill tree tweaks. For example at one point I played with using the stats boost tree (increase health, mana and others) but found the buffs too small to be an alternative to spell upgrades. I can't even remember what the boost was, something like +100hp +100mp?? a little (not a lot) more would make this tree viable.

Don't know if I agree on combining tower upgrades. Firepower oft gets neglected/ignored, so it's a nice surprise to purchase that while the enemy still thinks your towers are low FP. Also on a related item, the citadel health I think shouldn't be displayed all game as it becomes obvious when the enemy has bought tower healt, (though I guess that becomes obvious under current conditions when attacking a tower).

An idea I had was allowing tower rebuilding. Perhaps have purchaseable items from the citadel like a tower spawn item. Allow this to be used to rebuild a tower that has been destroyed - perhaps when a tower is destroyed have the rubble remain on the map, that way the players can see where the tower can be rebuilt. Another idea I have for towers, is allow the purchase of tower upgrade but what if you could, for a smaller cost, buff an individual tower. For example 100 gold to increase a tower's max health by 5% or similar.

Hope to see a warcraft 3 "Dday Judgement" MOD in Demigod. Kind of boring with the creep without event of different phase / wave of monster

Oh I forgot to make another big point.

We NEED to be able to play games that don't go on our win records. As it stands, people are afraid to play with noobs because they significantly hurt their chance of winning. Allowing a "fun" option that does not record stats is very important!

Since this is a team game, voice support and good chat support are very important.

Strategic zoom is my life.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but dg doesn't have "standard" last hitting, does it?  I know the last guy that got the hit gets the kill, but anyone that assisted also gets money.  In dota, isn't the only person getting paid the guy that got the kill?

Lets take a look at the other dota based moba's and look at the strengths and weaknesses in comparison to demigod.  I know a lot of things have already been said....

Why demigod is the best Moba:

1.  Zoom & Rotate.  When playing other games this is the one physical mechanic i miss the most. Im surpised Epi was the first one to mention this. (This is also the reason i didn't play LOL lol)

2.  Citadel Upgrades, this feature is just awesome and forces teams to invest in their team. It would be great to have more viable choices in DG2, eliminate the unused ones, and re-balance some of ones that are left.  If you decide to do a patch, it would be nice to have splash damage working correctly.  Thanks Frogboy for adding this mechanic to the game!

3.  Controllable minions for generals. However they need a serious boost of adderall / ritalin in DG2, they should stay put when parked and not wander off.  Also, it would be great to totally fix them getting stuck in the citadel in a patch.   If i remember correctly they were greatly improved in the last patch.  Also their turning rate was changed in the last patch.  This actually didn't work very well.  They only turned slowly when they were player controlled, when their ADDHD kicked in they turned rapidly making them more challenging to control. 

4.  The Graphics.  Hey, we're PC users, not console noobs.  A lot of us love the eye candy and demigod is a beautiful game.  Please don't change that.  Watching the citadel grow though-out the game was cool as well.  The current maps could probably have been done in 3ds Max with similar quality instead of granny.  A lot of people who would create community maps could easily get their hands on Max.  (Students can even get a legit 18 month license for free).  At a minimum just see if the game engine can support map creation from alternative programs (e.g. Stardock / GPG does the maps in Granny, but the engine allows for blender / max from the community etc.)  This could also make the Studio maps look a lot better than community maps. 

5.  The fog of war.  The fog of war is only in enemy controlled territory, which is the way it should be.  I love being able to see our side entirely.  Yea another Dota clone allows for ganks because of fogged paths that are in your territory, and thats one of the many reasons that game sux.

6.  Tower health regen - please don't lose this.

7.  Music  - this was mentioned before, but this is one of the best game soundtracks ever created, it may be even better than master of magic lol. 

8.  Character depth - Demigod has the best character depth of any Moba, we all know this.  It would be great to see some of the same characters in DG2 (well maybe just Oak lol).  It would be nice to have a publisher provided hot coffee mod but i digress.  Anyways, the build choices for each character are a lot of fun.

9.  Point controls.  Having the flag points to control made this game more like chess than anything else.  This is something that shouldn't be lost.  Maybe throw in a castle to make Polynomial happy. Call it a Polycastle where the hot coffee mod could be used.

10.  The pace and speed of the game.  This was great and again, added to the strategy of the game.  Other dota clones make it more of a twitch or skillshot game, which again, is another reason why they are inferior.

11.  Limited Demigod selection.  Having 75 shitty demigods doesn't make for a good game

12.  Lack of micro-transactions.  I like being able to purchase the game, or any game for that matter, outright. 

13.  Pantheon tournament.  Great idea, however some of the issues need to be fixed.  Also, ending the tourney on a weeknight that way it's not down over weekends.

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Things that could be improved with DG2 (in comparison to other Moba games)

1.  Netcode

2.  Reconnecting upon dropping

3.  Time-out for quitting a game before conceding, maybe have an escalating scale based on (# of times / X amount of time) eg. 3 times in 1 day = 15 minute time-out.  Somehow there will have to be a way to tell the difference between quitting and lagging out. 

4.  Blind demigod selection.

5.  ranked & unranked custom games

6.  Better balance between armor stacking, health stacking, critical hits & dodge.

7.  Being able to customize individual demi-gods outside of the game (e.g. skins, minor boosts etc.)

8.  Being able to pick your favor item prior to entering the game.

9.  Microtransactions.  Being old now, I would love the option to buy everything outright, however the use of microtransactions would grow the community.  This would be the demo as well.  Perhaps offer the client for free, 1 rotating demigod per week for free, $60 for paying for the base game outright ($5 per demigod - 12 demi's), and expansion packs for continued development of items, skins etc.  Expansions could be micro'd as well.  Playing for XP to earn items is a nice feature too.

10.  Complete statistical tracking.  Items used, skills selected, demigod selections, cit upgrades, most used demigod selections etc.

12.    Continued support of community run tourneys, corporate sponsored and run "pro" tourneys. 

13.  Perhaps appoint a panel of prominent players that would interface between the inevitable toxic community and the devs.  Kids these days have no respect lol. The panel could prioritize balance issues, coordinate tourney's etc.

14.  Inviting friends to play in lobby.

15.  An emphasis on more 3v3, 4v4 maps. 

16.  A GPG/SD website similar to demigoddb

Anyways, demigod is one of my favorite games of all time, I'm looking forward to DG2.

J

This feedback comes from player who has only ever played Demigod in SP and has no intentions of playing it in MP. I am aware that the major focus of the game is MP and am not suggesting that that should change, but I am not aware of how many players nevertheless, like I, bought it for SP and play it every now and then for SP. But under the assumption that there are enough of us that it makes sense to consider SP as something apart from a cheap addition, here goes:

For a demigod patch - no suggestions. Work to improve SP would go way beyond a patch at this point.

For a demigod expansion - a more interesting tournament structure starting the tournament with one chosen character and improving it as one progressed through the championship rather than relying on a stock character with items unlocked by point spending across games outside the tournament.

For a demigod sequel - a more interesting tournament structure as detailed above together with one or more SP campaigns - guided tours, if you will, through a sequence of maps with specific enemies and allies preset for each map - not every map having everybody starting symmetrically on an equal footing.

Apart from that, better strategic AI would be a godsend.

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For both expansion and sequel, a clear focus on the STRATEGIC aspects of the game over the TACTICAL will be appreciated. Using abilities on cooldowns is not particularly engaging gameplay. There's already a certain amount of differentiation there between the generals and assassins to give everybody the opportunity to play something catering to their playstyle, and I appreciate that, I'm just one of those players who would prefer an even stronger strategic focus.

Imagine, for instance, that the general actually spent a considerable amount of his time on commanding troops or prioritising appearance of reinforcements rather than playing like an assassin with a few bodyguards? What an innovative idea!

console demigod???? I lol'd

I believe it is

I think Demigod and other MOBAs are much more suited to console play than RTSes, and there are a bunch of RTSes with playable console ports.  I definitely don't see a problem with making a console port of a potential Demigod sequel, so long as the basic gameplay isn't compromised.   There are plenty of ways to make the interface usable on pad, even if (as with most types of games) you can't reach the same level of competitive play with one.