32 vs 64 » Forum Post by Pan Mateusz

only really comes down to the ram, 32 bit is limited to 2g ram for an app while 64 bit isn't limited, with the 64 bit one you would be able to run the game faster on larger maps with out the turns taking longer as the game needs more ram, last i heard 64 bit won't be out till later after the release in 24 th of Auguest.

and the 64 bit would also allow more larger maps then the 32 bit but i think you should be able to play these on multiplayer if you have a friend that has a 64 bit computer and enough ram to deal it, not sure how the clinent would handle it though

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So, I don't have a 64 bit machine, and I don't feel like getting one anytime soon.

Which contains me to 32 bit Elemenal. And because of that I feel uneasy - is it worse, dubbed down version? Is the game primarily developed to work with 64 bit machines? What are the real differences between versions?

1) It's usually the other way around: the 64bit version of games are often poorly supported, rarely work right, get less attention from the developers and have extensive problems running correctly. I am not saying this will happen at Stardock, but it's a reason I often don't spring for 64bit either. The market is small.

2) Brad Wardell has said before that if you buy the 32 version of the game from Impulse at any time you can upgrade to the 64bit version for free.

3) Since 32 bit is the target market, the game will be developed with them in mind and will work fine on their machines. You will probably notice the biggest difference comes from the operating system you are running: windows vista and windows 7 have direct X 10+ and games are often "prettier" with directx 10 or better, which windows XP doesn't have.

Hopefully that answers all your fears. : ) Plus 1 to karma? : )

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won't be any difference between the 32 bit and 64 bit besides the 64 getting more much needed ram, only get a 64 bit computer if you want to run elemental on insanely large maps that could take ages to finish.

theres nothing to fear unless you plan to get that 64 bit computer before elemental comes out since they said that they won't have 64 bit one on release but a 64 bit computer can still run 32 bit applications

basicly the only differences are that 32 bit is limited to 2g ram while the 64 bit are limited at like 60 gb ram or something insane and 64 OS bit uses more power to run so if your scared of your power bill going up ever so slighty above a 32 bit computer of near to the same power specs capped at 2g ram.

though 32 bit apps can be bad when they reach the 2g ram mark like Sins of a solar empire and at this point in the beta the game can reach the 2g memory and crash but if your worried about that, just play elemental in a window and watch how much elemental is chewing up the ram and save before it reachs max mem for 32 bit, though the 32 bit 2g cap isn't a worry for most games it seems to effect 4x games as well as others that allow large amounts of units on the map only strategy games with large scale to them will be affected by the 2g ram limit

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but it's a reason I often don't spring for 64bit either. The market is small.

But it grows every day by a huge amount. At least in germany all people i know which build up a new game/dev windows system use the 64 bit version. The 64bit systembuilder version of windows 7 leads the selling lists on all shops i normall buy my stuff.

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but it's a reason I often don't spring for 64bit either. The market is small.

But it grows every day by a huge amount. At least in germany all people i know which build up a new game/dev windows system use the 64 bit version. The 64bit systembuilder version of windows 7 leads the selling lists on all shops i normall buy my stuff.

Well for myself, the next time I build my computer, I'll definitely build it with the 64 bit in mind, as well as taking into account Windows 7, and a great graphics card.

Until then, I'll stick with the one I built a few years ago. I designed it to be great for a few years. And it certain has held that perspective in it's teeth.

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won't be any difference between the 32 bit and 64 bit besides the 64 getting more much needed ram, only get a 64 bit computer if you want to run elemental on insanely large maps that could take ages to finish.

Basically this. Feature wise, both the 32 and 64 bit versions will be identical. The only difference is a native 64 bit version will have more RAM available to be used, allowing you to play absolutely gigantic maps. And don't take that to mean that the maps in 32-bit will be small - you'll get all the "huge" and "gigantic" sizes that appear commpnly in TBS games, but that the 64 bit version would be able to handle maps of disproportional insanity.

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won't be any difference between the 32 bit and 64 bit besides the 64 getting more much needed ram, only get a 64 bit computer if you want to run elemental on insanely large maps that could take ages to finish.

theres nothing to fear unless you plan to get that 64 bit computer before elemental comes out since they said that they won't have 64 bit one on release but a 64 bit computer can still run 32 bit applications

huh? Every desktop sold for the last several years has had a 64 bit processor in it. At this point there's no reason to buy a 32 bit OS at all, and they're being phased out finally. (Windows 7 is the last version with a 32 bit release, and the 64 bit is far outselling the 32 bit one.)

If you're getting a computer with 4GB of RAM you should get a 64 bit OS, and 4GB is pretty standard these days.

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