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Ugly children

Ugly children

So this week the dynasties got in.  To skip to the good part, your sovereign gets married and has children. Eventually, those children grow up and you can then arrange marriages with them with other sovereigns. Your children, in turn, will have children of their own.  And that’s where things got interesting…or more specifically: ugly.

For today’s code review, we were looking at the algorithms being used to produce off-spring.  We don’t want them to be just random but rather have the traits of their parents in interesting ways – both from a stats point and cosmetically.  To see how far we could take things, I had my daughter marry the son of an Urxen sovereign (one of the races of the Fallen).  Urxen look a lot like goblins.

Well, my beautiful daughter and the Urxen prince had a child.  And let me just say, there are things you cannot unsee.  A half-man, half-urxen is something that can’t be unseen.

So if you end up deciding to marry your children off to other factions, take a good look at their family first lest your grandchildren look like that half-human half-alien from the last Alien movie.

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Reply #26 Top

Do we get spells to choose the appearance of our children? I mean not just to make them look pretty (instead of ugly). I want to be able to give my kids green, blue, pink, and/or purple hair just because I think it would look cool (I've watched too much anime). Designer babbies basically.

I mean seriously, I'm *THE* soveriegn and channeler. I can bring life back to a barren world. I can casts magic spells. I can even research the "master of magic" spell. If that isn't reason enough to have a god complex, I'm not sure what is.

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P.S. I like opportunities to abuse my godly power.

Reply #27 Top

Oh good Lord, I have the picture in my head now. I can't unsee it  X| . Are there any disguise spells in the game?

Reply #28 Top

Quoting DivineWrath, reply 26
Do we get spells to choose the appearance of our children? I mean not just to make them look pretty (instead of ugly). I want to be able to give my kids green, blue, pink, and/or purple hair just because I think it would look cool (I've watched too much anime). Designer babbies basically.

I mean seriously, I'm *THE* soveriegn and channeler. I can bring life back to a barren world. I can casts magic spells. I can even research the "master of magic" spell. If that isn't reason enough to have a god complex, I'm not sure what is.

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P.S. I like opportunities to abuse my godly power.

Will our children (or even heroes) have a "beauty" or "charisma" or "faction appealling" stat ? A half urxen child should be able to marry easier an other urxen child. Or not, if the urxen are xenophob (thus rejecting half-these or half-that)

Reply #29 Top

Quoting Wintersong, reply 2
Less descriptions, more pics!!!!

Hell yeah! :D

Reply #30 Top

So Urxen and trogs are fallen sub-races? Is there any more info on this i've missed?

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Reply #32 Top

In our company briefing yesterday the breeding part of the demo went on the longest because people kept wanting to see what kinds of hideous things were being made.

It wasn't supposed to be more than a 10 second part of the demo but it ended up eating up an extra 20 minutes of the meeting because people attending kept wanting to see what horrible horrible creature was going to be made next.

I miss pre-rendered graphics. I miss sprites. At least then, we had control over how things looked. How, genetic algorithms can do things. Bad things. Unholy, unnatural things.

Reply #33 Top

From the book (unedited):

Such was the ambition of some of these rulers that they bred their own children to be used as pawns in a political struggle to try to rule the world. It was said that this is how Sions came to be – they are the descendents of children of the original sovereigns who married their sons and daughters to other Channelers in an attempt to build alliances – even if that meant that the union involved the mingling of men and fallen.  

Reply #34 Top

Quoting Finneglot, reply 8
Inter-species marriages should be verbotten! Das ist verbotten! 

Frankly, some factions should be at least infertile when crossed - unless you use evil arcane magic to create hybrids.

 

Just for the record. It is spelled "verboten".

 

And don't forget. I also wanted "infertile" to be a trait (not just ugly). For a reason! :D

Reply #35 Top

Why would you want your horrible looking grand-children unable to breed?  If they can't breed, they can't produce even more hideous offspring.  Combine a half-urxen with some other kind of Fallen and see what abomination comes out.

Reply #36 Top

Quoting Frogboy, reply 32

I miss pre-rendered graphics. I miss sprites. At least then, we had control over how things looked. How, genetic algorithms can do things. Bad things. Unholy, unnatural things.

I have this image in my mind.

It's dark, and rain is coming down in painful torrents. In the distance lightning flashes, revealing a vast, churning mass of terrified people. Most are panicked, screaming, desperately trying to cover their eyes. Others wail at the heavens, knowing all too well what they can never unsee. A blessed few simply sit and stare, their minds destroyed by the horrors they have witnessed.

At the center of it all is a single laptop, the screen displaying abominations too terrible to describe. Illumined in its infernal light is Frogboy, on his hands and knees, weeping. "What have I done?" he cries, raising his hands to the blackened sky. "WHAT HAVE I DONE?!"

Reply #37 Top

It wasn't supposed to be more than a 10 second part of the demo but it ended up eating up an extra 20 minutes of the meeting because people attending kept wanting to see what horrible horrible creature was going to be made next.

 

:rofl: And just imagine how long the public will spend playing with it

 

And speaking of the book I think I need to upgrade my preorer to be the physical copy (rumor was / is it might come with it)

Reply #38 Top

Quoting Frogboy, reply 32
It wasn't supposed to be more than a 10 second part of the demo but it ended up eating up an extra 20 minutes of the meeting because people attending kept wanting to see what horrible horrible creature was going to be made next.

Video! Pics! Evidence!!!:pout:

Reply #39 Top

Bad things. Unholy, unnatural things.

Maybe you need to put a Call of Cthulhu project on the long-term project list...or is that just another Civ IV mod waiting to happen?

Reply #40 Top

It's dark, and rain is coming down in painful torrents. In the distance lightning flashes, revealing a vast, churning mass of terrified people. Most are panicked, screaming, desperately trying to cover their eyes. Others wail at the heavens, knowing all too well what they can never unsee. A blessed few simply sit and stare, their minds destroyed by the horrors they have witnessed.

At the center of it all is a single laptop, the screen displaying abominations too terrible to describe. Illumined in its infernal light is Frogboy, on his hands and knees, weeping. "What have I done?" he cries, raising his hands to the blackened sky. "WHAT HAVE I DONE?!"
Great, except for the last part:

At the center of it all is a single laptop, the screen displaying abominations too terrible to describe. Illumined in its infernal light is FrogboyDraginol, on his hands and knees, weeping. "What have I done?" he cries, raising his hands to the blackened sky. "WHAT HAVE I DONE?!" seemingly unaffected by the horror. He gazes over the crowd, then into the sky and quietly murmur(sp?)s.... "now, to find a means of distribution....

Reply #41 Top

At the center of it all is a single laptop, the screen displaying abominations too terrible to describe. Illumined in its infernal light is Frogboy, on his hands and knees, weeping. "What have I done?" he cries, raising his hands to the blackened sky. "WHAT HAVE I DONE?!" seemingly unaffected by the horror. He gazes over the crowd, then into the sky and quietly murmur(sp?)s.... "now, to find a means of distribution....

That almost hysterically funny, but you need to replace Frogboy with Draginol for it to really work ;)

Reply #42 Top

Done.

Reply #43 Top

Quoting Jalicos, reply 36

It's dark, and rain is coming down in painful torrents. In the distance lightning flashes, revealing a vast, churning mass of terrified people. Most are panicked, screaming, desperately trying to cover their eyes. Others wail at the heavens, knowing all too well what they can never unsee. A blessed few simply sit and stare, their minds destroyed by the horrors they have witnessed.

At the center of it all is a single laptop, the screen displaying abominations too terrible to describe. Illumined in its infernal light is Frogboy, on his hands and knees, weeping. "What have I done?" he cries, raising his hands to the blackened sky. "WHAT HAVE I DONE?!"

 

I am now tempted to buy this game. Very very Tempted.

Reply #45 Top

I can't wait to start my breeding program :)

 

Reply #46 Top

I wanna know, after many generations of horrible breading can I bread the ugly out of my children? Simply force them to bread with humans eventually somewhere down the line they should start looking normal again right?

Reply #47 Top

Hopefully it'll work better than the Crusader Kings dynamic.  Although still a great old system..because it's done so little in gaming.

Reply #48 Top

I wanna know, after many generations of horrible breading can I bread the ugly out of my children? Simply force them to bread with humans eventually somewhere down the line they should start looking normal again right?
As long as the humans are attractive, the ugly traits should slowly be diluted....... although there'll always be something just a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle off about them.......

Reply #49 Top

It seems like it's hard to get traits to really carry over unless you make a lot of different slots for areas of the face.  Crusader Kings seemed to do foreheads, chins, and noses.

Reply #50 Top

Quoting GambitNC, reply 34
Quoting Finneglot, reply 8Inter-species marriages should be verbotten! Das ist verbotten! 

Frankly, some factions should be at least infertile when crossed - unless you use evil arcane magic to create hybrids.


 

Just for the record. It is spelled "verboten".

 

And don't forget. I also wanted "infertile" to be a trait (not just ugly). For a reason!

Da, da.