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Will there be a new version for Windows 7?

Will there be a new version for Windows 7?

Ok...starting a new post, but because the other topic on this forum about Objectdock is a derailed disaster.

I have one very simple question.

Is Stardock going to release a new version of ObjectDock that plays nicer with Windows 7?

It 'sort of' works for me in Win7 32-bit.

All I want know is if Stardock is going to upgrade this lovely little piece of software.

If they do, I'll buy the plus version.

If not, I'm going to start looking for a different dock utilty to spend my money on.

 

 

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Reply #76 Top

Stardock has left ObjectDock alone for a long time, i wonder if they forget it or they just want to surprise the users in the future but i think if they do not show the users some improvements or new things for it, ObjectDock will be forgiven sooner or later. ObjectDock is perfect for me, i love it so much, so do not disappoint us, we all are still waiting for a new version of ObjectDock with tons of new things in every second. Great love for Stardock :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:  .

Reply #77 Top

we all are still waiting for a new version of ObjectDock with tons of new things

Agreed. Though I love OD+ in its current state, I am looking forward to 2.0.

Reply #78 Top

Quoting Mirsguy, reply 75

My menus don't hide behind other things, etc...

I'm not talking about your menus. I am talking about a specific context menu for that particular program that is installed on my system. Don't compare your menus to my menus if they are not the same.

Quoting Mirsguy, reply 75

And messenger? That would be an issue with, you guessed it; MESSENGER!

Errr, wrong. The way Taskbar and Messenger interact has changed from Vista to Win 7. OD+ has not been updated to provide compatibility for said change. This means it's an issue with OD+ and not Messenger.

Reply #79 Top

Quoting wc2005, reply 76
...but i think if they do not show the users some improvements or new things for it, ObjectDock will be forgiven sooner or later...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you meant to say "forgotten" and not "forgiven", right?

Reply #80 Top

This post is starting to stray a bit and getting personal. As it is in the 'Support' section it is meant to request help from Stardock support. Members are encouraged to offer help if they so chose and this is encouraged.

What isn't encouraged is any personal attacks and from some of the responses it is nearing that.

Please refrain from such activity.

Thank you

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Reply #81 Top

Don't compare your menus to my menus if they are not the same.

My menus can beat up your menus! :grin:

 

And don't shoot the Messenger! LOL!

Ok...starting a new post, but because the other topic on this forum about Objectdock is a derailed disaster.

C'mon everyone; let's give it a rest. This has turned into one twisted trainwreck against the OP's intentions!

Reply #82 Top

Quoting Hankers, reply 80
This post is starting to stray a bit and getting personal. As it is in the 'Support' section it is meant to request help from Stardock support. Members are encouraged to offer help if they so chose and this is encouraged.

What isn't encouraged is any personal attacks and from some of the responses it is nearing that.

Please refrain from such activity.

Thank you

Apologies if I descended to such a level. I simply feel very passionate about the matter and, likewise, very frustrated about the lack of action from Stardock. As such, I can't see how this thread can progress further unless Stardock releases an update for Win 7 users to play with and to report findings.

Reply #83 Top

Apologies if I descended to such a level. I simply feel very passionate about the matter and, likewise, very frustrated about the lack of action from Stardock. As such, I can't see how this thread can progress further unless Stardock releases an update for Win 7 users to play with and to report findings.

Now I agree with you. :)

Now if I can extend a handshake, so to speak, maybe we can end this as gentlemen.

Reply #84 Top

Quoting Mirsguy, reply 83

Now I agree with you.

Now if I can extend a handshake, so to speak, maybe we can end this as gentlemen.

Sure, let's shake hands. You saying that you have no problems rubbed salt into my wound of using OD+, so that's why I took it close to heart :'(

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Reply #85 Top

Then we have common ground: we both love OD+, and both wish to see it improved. Or better yet, to see 2.0 come to fruition.

:sun:

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Reply #86 Top

Well, how nice!   K for each of you!!   :grin:

Reply #87 Top

Quoting Mirsguy, reply 77
we all are still waiting for a new version of ObjectDock with tons of new things

Agreed. Though I love OD+ in its current state, I am looking forward to 2.0.

I think the silence makes everybody think it is dead, so while Windows is quickly developing in every moment, ObjectDock should show everybody itself  :inlove: .

 

Quoting inc0gnito, reply 79
Quoting wc2005, reply 76...but i think if they do not show the users some improvements or new things for it, ObjectDock will be forgiven sooner or later...Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you meant to say "forgotten" and not "forgiven", right?

 

Yes, "FORGOTTEN", not "forgiven", my mistake  :blush: .

 

 

I am terribly sorry if my posts are going to a wrong direction (strayed) but i think i should reply my friends  :grin: . Finally, please allow me to send you all the best wishes for the Christmas 2009 and the new year 2010 :snowman: :beer: .

 

Reply #88 Top

heh. reading your.. many posts and frustration regarding object dock reminds me why i no longer subscribe to stardock products incOgnito. i admire your persistence though:)

Reply #89 Top

Quoting mr, reply 88
heh. reading your.. many posts and frustration regarding object dock reminds me why i no longer subscribe to stardock products incOgnito. i admire your persistence though:)
If a product works without problems and does the job well enough, I wouldn't seriously consider resubscribing. Unfortunately, I have a hunch that I will have to fork out for OD + 2.0 to upgrade. We'll see, maybe Stardock will be nice...

Reply #90 Top

I have a hunch that I will have to fork out for OD + 2.0

And why not?   If you bought a Rolls Royce (any new car) in 2007 and decided to update to a 2010 model you'd have to pay.  Same with OD + 2.0.... it will be a new model.

Last I heard, Rolls Royce weren't giving new cars away to old customers.... so expect some cost to update OD +

Reply #91 Top

Quoting starkers, reply 90
And why not?
Perhaps because for the majority of the time that I've been using OD+ I've had issues that still have not been fixed? Stardock has 90 days refund policy (60 days for PayPal). So one can install on XP, run fine for over 90 days, upgrade to Vista, encounter a bunch of problems and be stuck. 90 days have elapsed and Stardock is asking to pay for bugfixes on a supported platform. That doesn't seem reasonable to me. One can actually run a shady operation using this scheme:

1. Release a piece of software, version 1.0. Users find bugs. They are reported but unfixed.

2. Wait 100 days (10 days for a bunch of people to buy + 90 days of refund policy)

3. Release version 2.0 with bugfixes. Turn around and say to users: "you want bugfixes? pay up!"

A bit cynical, yes, but is somewhat representative of the current situation... X(

Reply #92 Top

So one can install on XP, run fine for over 90 days,

Or...

One can install on XP and stay with both XP and the product and enjoy it all for centuries or until electricity becomes redundant....either one....;)

Reply #93 Top

Perhaps because for the majority of the time that I've been using OD+ I've had issues that still have not been fixed? Stardock has 90 days refund policy (60 days for PayPal). So one can install on XP, run fine for over 90 days, upgrade to Vista, encounter a bunch of problems and be stuck. 90 days have elapsed and Stardock is asking to pay for bugfixes on a supported platform. That doesn't seem reasonable to me.

Ya know, incOgnito, I fully expect to have to pay something towards the development of OD+ 2.0 when it is released... and yes, I too bought OD+ 1.0 when XP was the lead Windows OS... and yes, I had some issues when I upgraded to Vista x64... an OS for which OD+ 1.0 was NOT designed.  However, despite my systray docklet not working, my start menu applet not working, I do NOT pounce on every OD related thread to bitch about it.  In fact, I don't see anyone else habitually pouncing on OD threads to voice the same bitch over and over again... just you.

The key here is that YOU upgraded to an OS for which your copy of OD was not written... therefore it is NOT Stardocks fault or responsibility.... it is, however, YOURS.... it was your decision to upgrade.  Furthermore, you have ignored every explanation as to why OD has not as yet been updated... the fact that the lead developer has had more work to contend with than any one person could manage efficiently and competently, and thus you have continued your whining diatribe and deeemed Stardock to be running a "shady operation"... all because things have not run according to your timeline/way of thinking.

A bit cynical, yes,

Downright rude and arrogant, more like it.... so much so, I'd have your posting priveleges revoked if it were up to me.  Yes, it is a privelege to post here, NOT a right, and to date you have done little else but insult, mock, defame and harrass your host... and that, to me, is sufficient grounds to kick your arse off the boards.  So thank your lucky stars, then, I'm not an administrator and/or a moderator.

 

Reply #94 Top

Quoting Jafo, reply 92

Or...

One can install on XP and stay with both XP and the product and enjoy it all for centuries or until electricity becomes redundant....either one....
Considering that OD+ supports both XP and Vista, according to Stardock, one has a choice and its Stardock's responsibility to make sure that the product works correctly on all operating systems that they claim to support.

Quoting starkers, reply 93

The key here is that YOU upgraded to an OS for which your copy of OD was not written... therefore it is NOT Stardocks fault or responsibility.... it is, however, YOURS.... it was your decision to upgrade.

In my previous post, I was referring to an OS for which OD+ was written (Vista, now Win 7) and Stardock even have a big shiny logo claiming that it is ready for Windows Vista yet the product did not perform well.

Reply #95 Top

In my previous post, I was referring to an OS for which OD+ was written (Vista, now Win 7) and Stardock even have a big shiny logo claiming that it is ready for Windows Vista yet the product did not perform well.

 

inc0gnito, Have you actually upgraded to windows 7, as I remember a post a while back that you said you were thinking about upgrading. I don't know why you find the constant need to complain about this. If you have upgraded to windows 7 then you know that had the choice and went into it knowing that 7 was not supported by OD.

I personally use OD on windows 7 64 pro bit and I know that if my OD breaks or does not work properly it is my FAULT because I upgraded to a unsupported operating system

 

 

Reply #96 Top

Sorry for the double post

Reply #97 Top

Quoting WinMonster2, reply 95

inc0gnito, Have you actually upgraded to windows 7, as I remember a post a while back that you said you were thinking about upgrading. If you have upgraded to windows 7 then you know that had the choice and went into it knowing that 7 was not supported by OD.

I have upgraded to Windows 7, but all (except for one) bugs that I have filed in the "Bugs in ObjectDock" thread are present in Vista. If I downgrade to Vista, those bugs will still be there -- they won't magically be eradicated, yet Vista is supported. A high number of people seem to have an impression that all the bugs that I encountered are a result of my upgrade to Win 7. This is not the case at all. I've reported them while I was still using Vista and they are also present in Win 7. Something tells me that if they will be fixed in Vista then problems in Win 7 are also likely to go away. Time will tell.

Reply #98 Top

In my previous post, I was referring to an OS for which OD+ was written (Vista, now Win 7)

There you go again.... and WRONG!!! 

FACT 1: OD 1.0 (free and plus) was NOT written for Vista or Win 7

FACT 2: OD 1.0 (free and plus) WAS written for XP and prior OSes.

FACT 3: OD 1.0 (free and plus) WAS updated with Vista support... Win 7 occurred later, though OD runs fine for most users of Win 7

FACT 4: OD 1.0 (free and Plus) DOES SUPPORT Vista, both 32 and 64 bit... albiet with some issues for some users, mostly those with 64 bit systems

FACT 5: Just because some users experience issues, it does NOT mean OD 1.0 does not support Vista OSes... for the most part it does.

FACT 6: OD 2.0, with Vista/Win 7 32/64 bit support, will arrive when it gets here, and not a moment before... no matter what you say or how you say it,  Call it persistence if you like, but being antagonistic will win you no friends here... at WC or Stardock.  So how about you give it a rest and stop biting the hand that feeds you... so to speak.

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Reply #99 Top

Well written, and well put.

Reply #100 Top

Quoting starkers, reply 98

FACT 1: OD 1.0 (free and plus) was NOT written for Vista or Win 7

I never claimed that OD 1.0 was written for Vista or Win 7. I did however claim that 1.9 has been written to take advantage of Vista, which is the case as stated in this Stardock announcement: https://www.wincustomize.com/articles.aspx?aid=151112

Quoting starkers, reply 98

FACT 4: OD 1.0 (free and Plus) DOES SUPPORT Vista, both 32 and 64 bit... albiet with some issues for some users, mostly those with 64 bit systems

Officially, OD does not support any OS that's 64-bit. This is evident by the absence of 64-bit being mentioned on the System Requirements tab of OD product page.

Quoting starkers, reply 98

...though OD runs fine for most users of Win 7

Do you have any statistically valid data to back up such a claim? It sounds quite bold, so that's why I am asking. Also, how does one define "fine"? The terms itself is rather vague. For some people, "fine" may be a couple of bugs that don't get in the way of their daily routine. For some others, a single bug/incompatibility is not "fine", even if it doesn't affect them.