i agree with you that spit is overpowered but i dont think that erebus is as weak as you say. with mist ub cant push erebus out until midgame. minions are awesome against a tower rook and if he doesnt have help he runs out of mana pretty fast since he either just watches the minions kill the tower (and has to rebuild) or he slams the minions to death. queen is a hard enemy until mid-late game yeah but thats just because queens shield is awesome early game. and oak against erebus is pretty hard until mid-lategame as well. his minions aint as strong as erebs and ereb got bite to heal and is more effective than pen.

IMO, people who say "UB/LE aren't invincible" are either terrible at the game and don't understand that just because something can be killed doesn't make it balanced, or play UB/LE and don't want a nerfbat to the groin.

wait lifekatana your post is ambiguous.  are you saying you cant be beaten while u play ub, or u cant be beaten when u play sedna/oak.

nvm i reread it.  yes i agree with u , players of equal skill the ooze beast will win in a 1v1 brawl to the death.  in fact i believe i posted a month or two ago something like "plz tell me how i can beat an ooze ub with my erubus qq" since i was getting stomped in pantheon (g vs a). 

so touche sir

LE is just retarded, lol.

I played him last night and mist is so rediculously powerful it borders on ludicris. You can avoid soooooooo much damage.

Hammerslam? Mist
Rain of Ice? Mist
Spit? Mist
Swapped? Mist
Fireball? Mist
Pent? Mist
Ground Spikes? Mist
Tracking Bug? Mist
Snipe? Mist

I think you see where I'm going with this.

He doesn't even need to avoid damage, he can heal himself, he has tons of hp, he can stall in mist indefinitely, and if things get too bad he can warp out dealing damage to everything in his path...

*Mist*

Edit: See? I just misted your post.

Crop Dusting Bitch

rofl teseeer

SILENCE.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

LOL

yeah... tried ever to counter pentience with mist?

0.1 seconds, it's doable if you see an oak running towards you while you're locking a flag or something like it

The point is you mist off the debuff. If theres 3 people beating on your, the damage boost HURTS. Misting off the effect frees your movement speed and stops the extra damage effect.

Thanks Lehstang, although I'm pretty sure Oak pretty much beats erebus throughout the game except for really early on, as does queen(shield has nothing to do with it and is a shit skill). Then again that does not mean they're better, just better in 1vs1 pushing. Erebus's mass stun is absolutely insane in team fights while bat is almost a sure killer for hubrid lowhp demigods.

Those damn Hubrids!

LE has no joke skills, every other demigod has 1 skill that's not worth taking ever. Also, LE vs Oak is just a retarded invincibility gangrapefest, neither of them would ever stand a chance of dying