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A Modest Proposal: Resurrecting Steel Command

A Modest Proposal: Resurrecting Steel Command

When I was a younger man, before I became the old and decrepit 24 year old before you, there was a little-known game not much unlike this one. It was fun, nerdy, made by a small yet very active company (before Microsoft got it, I guess), and had a small, dedicated community of players. Okay, not "Holy crap there are 200 people on ICO at the same time?!" small, but you get the idea. The game was Mechcommander and one of the leagues formed around it went by the name of Steel Command.

The SCL was a heavily role-played league which used Mechcommander as a vehicle to wage an enormous interstellar war between the various Battletech factions (faction websites still exist today, in all their 1998 glory). Factions would fight for territory and resources. They would commit Mechs and other resources to battles, then play out those battles in the game. There was diplomacy and even an enormous map which was manually updated to reflect faction ownership changes (this was back before the web was "dynamic" ;)

I think a league like this would work well in Sins for a few reasons. First of all, it is asynchronous. That is, factions can schedule games or just issue orders ("Explore this planet", etc.) and won't need to randomly have a whole lot of players on at the same time (this is the main reason clans don't work right now). Secondly, Sins is very customizable, which is required for this sort of thing to work. The Map Designer is quick and dirty, but the real power lies in Galaxy Forge (assuming it gets fixed) which allows maps to be custom-tailored to battles. With this customization combined with the fact that different battles can have different supply caps, sizes and so forth, games can be long or short depending on the battle setup and include any number of other variables.

Sins games can be incredibly long, back and forth, intense experiences even though the action isn't necessarily constant -- that's what I love about it. You have to make big decisions -- do I build up and dig in or rush? Do I save that planet being attacked or do I counter? -- which can affect where you are an hour later. But what if the game didn't end in an hour, a day, or a month? What if there were an entire Universe to conquer and not just a star or two at a time?

If there's a game out now that could be used to resurrect the enormous scope and breadth of Steel Command, it is almost certainly Sins. However, this is no minor task and will require dedication and effort from many -- not to mention players! I'm not sure if we have enough people yet, but we'd have to start somewhere. This would be a considerable undertaking and I am already extremely low on free time, so I'm putting this out now to see what sort of interest there is, if any. Please provide feedback!

P.S. If you're wondering who would actually make the site for this, the answer is me. I do it for a living so we've at least got that part covered.


IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

Like what you've read so far? Then check this out!

Okay folks, it seems like we have enough people interested to make an official inquiry here on the boards. The way I see it, we need a minimum of 25 people to start really getting the ball rolling in an official way on this thing. To that end, I have created a form that interested parties should fill out. It shouldn't take more than 30 seconds and will give me a way to keep track of people with serious interest.

One of the questions asks what you want your "role" to be; I have created the following roles with my recommendation of minimum numbers to fulfill in parenthesis (assumes 3 initial factions; one for each race):

 

  • Steering Committee (3) - These are folks with experience with Sins and the sort of league we're trying to build. Their job will be to steer the league in the proper direction and make final decisions on implementation details. Of course everyone in the league gets a say in what happens; the committee is around merely to keep us on course, break stalemates, etc.
  • Faction Leader (3) - These people should enjoy Lore creation and leadership. Their job will be to build up their respective factions, recruit members, define in-faction rules, ranks, etc. They are the backbone of their faction and should be creative types who can figure out innovative ways to get new members and make their faction more appealing to players.
  • Faction Member (15) - These are the folks who want to help their respective factions take over the Universe. We need at least 5 normal members per faction to allow for max-size games and not make the faction leader have to play all the time (they will be busy enough!)
  • Map Maker (2) - These guys allow us to play the actual game by creating the appropriate maps. They should be able to use Galaxy Forge (does it even work? Instantly crashes for me...). They'll also be map designers in that they will have a lot of opportunity to input their own ideas into the maps.
  • League/Forum Admin (2) - These folks keep the lights on and everything humming along on the forums and in the league. Their duties will be extremely diverse.

 

Fill out the form here: http://binjured.wufoo.com/forms/sins-league-signup/

Thank you in advance!

(Entrenchment required for membership for the time being; with more players, hopefully we can have two leagues... but that's a dream for now.)

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Reply #201 Top

Pssttt. TEC is the best so forget about the rest!

just check this out! https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/346132

or this place works too!! http://sins.blacklotushq.com/index.php

look at both, ha ha, like i said we are the best.

Reply #202 Top

Quoting ShadowMastiff2468, reply 25
Psssttt.Vasari pawns all !

 

BTW nyczzz still w8ing for that project of yours..will have some time off on saturday! I'm planning on continuing our little feud

Ive been working on it, i should have the final draft sent to you by tonight, somewhat busy making dinner for the family atm.

Reply #203 Top

Pfftt... tell that too me when yur trying to squeez ur wussy akkan off yur homeworld after i stomp you :P

Reply #204 Top

This is advent ssssssssssector Desssssssssssssamator! Pleassssssssee remeber that they do not posssssseeeeeesssssssssss the akkan sssssssssships but instead the progenital ;)

Reply #205 Top

Our 'wuzzy' Akkan is one of the best ships in game, you just gotta know how to use the beast. Anyhow, lets try to keep this topic clean. Keep all taunting down please. *cough* SHADOW*Cough* If your gonna start spaming my recruitment post I will unlease the hounds.

Reply #206 Top

unlease????? you mean unleash ;)

Reply #207 Top

No i think he meant Un-lease, you see the UE couldnt buy those capital ships but the dealership gave them a good lease offer, i believe 40k credits down payment with 15k monthly payments, but it seems even the bad economy has hit the TEC world and they can no longer keep leasing those ships of theirs.

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Reply #208 Top

LOOOOOLLLL!!!

 

+1 for that!!! HILARIOUS!!!!!! FRIKKING HILARIOUS!!!

Reply #209 Top

Yeah yeah yeah, you dont know how hard it is to fight a two way war. So taunt all you want kids. Look at the past battles, the Advent saved you Vasari. Wait till your caught in a two way war with your pants down and let see how well you do then.

Reply #210 Top

Trus tme..you don't want to see me with my pants down +_+! l;oooooool so don't get in a two-way war ;)

Reply #211 Top

pants down?!?! two way war?!?!?! what did i miss? wait no... dont tell me...  i dont think i wanna know,

Pfffttt besides carbon you dont have any good skills like... nunchuk skills... computer hacking skills... bow hunting skills... girls only like guys with good skills, (lol napolean dyn.) :P FREAAGINN IDDIOTTT >.<

Reply #212 Top

How are the preparations coming along?  I'm loving the game, if only it had been around when I was still in school 12+ years ago!  Have been focusing on TEC to learn the game so it probably makes sense to stick with them, although all the factions look fun to be honest.

Reply #213 Top

Take Vasari... ;)

 

and so far, we're slowly but surely moving along! issue is summer is at our doorsteps and we're trying to get everyone on at the same time! which is proving VERY hard :(

Reply #214 Top

Well SM, i think, the advent, Vasari game ( slaughterfestepicpwnagekillhousevasaripwnsall) didnt happen because of a few SCHOOL-RELATED, things during the week, IE band concerts, and w/e the hell samurye had to do... fried comp's n the such, it might be BETTER that summer is here :P

Reply #215 Top

Yeah! let's say summer is a double-bladed knife!

Let's try to make the best of it!

Reply #216 Top

So, i suppose the vasari will be holding this knife? Obviously the -Ue cant afford it, and the advent, well i havent thought of a reason other than that THEY'RE SHIPS ARE TOO DAMN GLOSSY-LOOKIN, Pwnt :) We Win!

Reply #217 Top

LOOOOOOOOOL!

desamator...has an asnwer to everything!!!

Good if this continues..I'll promote you to.....damn we aint got no rankings here....ah well I'll give you a slap on theback and say "good Vasari"! +_+

Reply #218 Top

Quoting Desamator, reply 16
So, i suppose the vasari will be holding this knife? Obviously the -Ue cant afford it, and the advent, well i havent thought of a reason other than that THEY'RE SHIPS ARE TOO DAMN GLOSSY-LOOKIN, Pwnt We Win!

All the better to distract you with my dear.

Reply #219 Top

Quoting Sabeleth, reply 12
How are the preparations coming along?  I'm loving the game, if only it had been around when I was still in school 12+ years ago!  Have been focusing on TEC to learn the game so it probably makes sense to stick with them, although all the factions look fun to be honest.

well if you are intrested in the TEC, then just pm me! and we can get you on the path of joining the unified explorers, (the TEC faction). if you have any questions about joining or anything dont be afraid to ask!

oh and by the way, we sold you the double edge knife

Reply #220 Top

yeah...cheap TEC quality as usual.....better spam than build reliable items +_+

Reply #221 Top

Xenon, you better watch out, i heard layoff's are SURGING through the -Ue, i even bet GM has more money than the -Ue :P

Reply #222 Top

unreliable visair intelgince. you dont know anything that is happening around you,just open your mouth first ha ha, thats your answer, and no there are no lay-offs, if we where laying off why would we be bringing in new members?

anyways i only hope the advent are not as uniformed as your self

Reply #223 Top

Quoting -Ue_Xenon, reply 22
unreliable visair intelgince. you dont know anything that is happening around you,just open your mouth first ha ha, thats your answer, and no there are no lay-offs, if we where laying off why would we be bringing in new members?

anyways i only hope the advent are not as uniformed as your self

 

Apparently you're laying off dictionnaries....since you're apparently falling subject to an abusive miss-use of the english language +_+

Reply #225 Top

Maybe your translators should be banned, I got his message crystal clear. Would you like me to translate it better for you?

 

Quoting -Ue_Xenon, reply 22
YOU SMELL LIKE ELDERBERRIES. VASARI ARE ALL TALK TALK TALK.

 

Now, Im all for trash talk when it the right time, but can we steer this topic back onto a nice enviorment to help get this show going. Please.