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A Modest Proposal: Resurrecting Steel Command

A Modest Proposal: Resurrecting Steel Command

When I was a younger man, before I became the old and decrepit 24 year old before you, there was a little-known game not much unlike this one. It was fun, nerdy, made by a small yet very active company (before Microsoft got it, I guess), and had a small, dedicated community of players. Okay, not "Holy crap there are 200 people on ICO at the same time?!" small, but you get the idea. The game was Mechcommander and one of the leagues formed around it went by the name of Steel Command.

The SCL was a heavily role-played league which used Mechcommander as a vehicle to wage an enormous interstellar war between the various Battletech factions (faction websites still exist today, in all their 1998 glory). Factions would fight for territory and resources. They would commit Mechs and other resources to battles, then play out those battles in the game. There was diplomacy and even an enormous map which was manually updated to reflect faction ownership changes (this was back before the web was "dynamic" ;)

I think a league like this would work well in Sins for a few reasons. First of all, it is asynchronous. That is, factions can schedule games or just issue orders ("Explore this planet", etc.) and won't need to randomly have a whole lot of players on at the same time (this is the main reason clans don't work right now). Secondly, Sins is very customizable, which is required for this sort of thing to work. The Map Designer is quick and dirty, but the real power lies in Galaxy Forge (assuming it gets fixed) which allows maps to be custom-tailored to battles. With this customization combined with the fact that different battles can have different supply caps, sizes and so forth, games can be long or short depending on the battle setup and include any number of other variables.

Sins games can be incredibly long, back and forth, intense experiences even though the action isn't necessarily constant -- that's what I love about it. You have to make big decisions -- do I build up and dig in or rush? Do I save that planet being attacked or do I counter? -- which can affect where you are an hour later. But what if the game didn't end in an hour, a day, or a month? What if there were an entire Universe to conquer and not just a star or two at a time?

If there's a game out now that could be used to resurrect the enormous scope and breadth of Steel Command, it is almost certainly Sins. However, this is no minor task and will require dedication and effort from many -- not to mention players! I'm not sure if we have enough people yet, but we'd have to start somewhere. This would be a considerable undertaking and I am already extremely low on free time, so I'm putting this out now to see what sort of interest there is, if any. Please provide feedback!

P.S. If you're wondering who would actually make the site for this, the answer is me. I do it for a living so we've at least got that part covered.


IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

Like what you've read so far? Then check this out!

Okay folks, it seems like we have enough people interested to make an official inquiry here on the boards. The way I see it, we need a minimum of 25 people to start really getting the ball rolling in an official way on this thing. To that end, I have created a form that interested parties should fill out. It shouldn't take more than 30 seconds and will give me a way to keep track of people with serious interest.

One of the questions asks what you want your "role" to be; I have created the following roles with my recommendation of minimum numbers to fulfill in parenthesis (assumes 3 initial factions; one for each race):

 

  • Steering Committee (3) - These are folks with experience with Sins and the sort of league we're trying to build. Their job will be to steer the league in the proper direction and make final decisions on implementation details. Of course everyone in the league gets a say in what happens; the committee is around merely to keep us on course, break stalemates, etc.
  • Faction Leader (3) - These people should enjoy Lore creation and leadership. Their job will be to build up their respective factions, recruit members, define in-faction rules, ranks, etc. They are the backbone of their faction and should be creative types who can figure out innovative ways to get new members and make their faction more appealing to players.
  • Faction Member (15) - These are the folks who want to help their respective factions take over the Universe. We need at least 5 normal members per faction to allow for max-size games and not make the faction leader have to play all the time (they will be busy enough!)
  • Map Maker (2) - These guys allow us to play the actual game by creating the appropriate maps. They should be able to use Galaxy Forge (does it even work? Instantly crashes for me...). They'll also be map designers in that they will have a lot of opportunity to input their own ideas into the maps.
  • League/Forum Admin (2) - These folks keep the lights on and everything humming along on the forums and in the league. Their duties will be extremely diverse.

 

Fill out the form here: http://binjured.wufoo.com/forms/sins-league-signup/

Thank you in advance!

(Entrenchment required for membership for the time being; with more players, hopefully we can have two leagues... but that's a dream for now.)

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Reply #251 Top

Deamon tools lite!

 

Install it then click on its icon, select a virtual drive and click on the 'mount image' button then itll open the searc option! Look for your ISO and double click!

 

Deamon tools will do the rest!

Reply #252 Top

Hey shadow, i think you should discuss that stuff via PM :P

Reply #253 Top

Yeah probably +_+! *hides behind a box at the sound of FBI cars coming his way*   ooof close!

 

But then again..if memory serves me right! Canadians are lawsuit-protected...as long as its not games!

Reply #254 Top

Quoting ShadowMastiff2468, reply 3
Yeah probably +_+! *hides behind a box at the sound of FBI cars coming his way*   ooof close!

 

But then again..if memory serves me right! Canadians are lawsuit-protected...as long as its not games!

If nothing else to keep this post on topic.

Reply #255 Top

Forums are for solving problems... And were solving a problem, if you guys wanna be antisocial go do that in a corner, as for me, piss off, bc as far as im concerned, you cant do anything about a post thats already posted, therefore you should just keep to yourselves... and telling us to stop AFTER we solve the problem serves nobody...

Reply #256 Top

Quoting Desamator, reply 5
Forums are for solving problems... And were solving a problem, if you guys wanna be antisocial go do that in a corner, as for me, piss off, bc as far as im concerned, you cant do anything about a post thats already posted, therefore you should just keep to yourselves... and telling us to stop AFTER we solve the problem serves nobody...

Woah woah, what is your problem all of a sudden, i just said to just discuss the subject regarding daemon tools and what not in PMs because of obvious reasons of which shadow clearly understands. There are reasons why PM's exist so do get all up in arms and upset when i clearly asked nicely.

Reply #257 Top

Quoting Desamator, reply 5
Forums are for solving problems... And were solving a problem, if you guys wanna be antisocial go do that in a corner, as for me, piss off, bc as far as im concerned, you cant do anything about a post thats already posted, therefore you should just keep to yourselves... and telling us to stop AFTER we solve the problem serves nobody...

This is not your personal post! This is a post about the league not about yall torrenting and such.  You can talk all you want about anything you want in YOUR SORROWSWARM topic, not this one or OUR TOPIC. Im am tired of you posting random shit in this topic and I get excited thinking we might have new interest or something in the league, only to find out your piss in the wind about torrents and other shit. Once again take your off topic crap elsewhere in another topic, not a league one or another factions recruitment topic. I dont care if you talk about in your respective factions topics or faction forums. So you sir can tell me to piss off after you balls have dropped, you damn kid!

Reply #258 Top

If necessary, I may be able to provide Binjured with a way to delete their posts and blacklist them.

 

Samurye. :ninja:

Reply #259 Top

All I have to say, is that when I went looking through this topic when I first joined up, I had to sift through 10 pages of crap. Not fun at all. Just looks like a bunch of kids spraypainting everything more than it does a league at the moment. -_-'

Reply #260 Top

Life is tough +_+

Reply #261 Top

Quoting boshimi336, reply 9
All I have to say, is that when I went looking through this topic when I first joined up, I had to sift through 10 pages of crap. Not fun at all. Just looks like a bunch of kids spraypainting everything more than it does a league at the moment. '

This right here is the main reason and the point Ive been trying to make. We need members and off topic sludge is cloging any chances we might have on getting even more members.

I say it again I dont mind chit chat but not a the main league topic and/or -Ue_ recruitment topic. These topics are here for specific things not idle chatter.

Reply #262 Top

Hey everyone, this sounds really awesome and I was just wondering where the third party forums are for this. :)

Reply #263 Top

Quoting cyberguy1, reply 12
Hey everyone, this sounds really awesome and I was just wondering where the third party forums are for this.

Glad your interested!!!

Here are the current respective factions recruitment pages(they should have more info on each and/if they have an faction forums):


Unified Explorers (TEC)  https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/346132

The Illumina (Advent)   https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/352445

The Sorrowsworn (Vasari)   https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/345788

 

Also make sure you sign up here: http://binjured.wufoo.com/forms/sins-league-signup/

After looking at our current factions and your not convinced any are what your looking for. Anyone can create their own faction if they want to put the effort into it and can recruit close to 5+ members. Although none of the faction have more than 5 at the moment.(We are still a small group).

Reply #264 Top

Quoting -Ue_Carbon, reply 11

This right here is the main reason and the point Ive been trying to make. We need members and off topic sludge is cloging any chances we might have on getting even more members.
Quoting cyberguy1, reply 12
Hey everyone, this sounds really awesome and I was just wondering where the third party forums are for this.

:)

 

Samurye. :ninja:

Reply #265 Top

Is any1 even doing anything... besides sitting here and farming members..? I mean... binjured got the league together then fucked out... somebody with internet skills needs to take charge...

Reply #266 Top

I have a VERY important math exam tonight for which I've been preparing for a while ...so please let me finish it!

 

Then we can start talking bout making websites and such ;)

Reply #267 Top

Quoting Desamator, reply 15
Is any1 even doing anything... besides sitting here and farming members..? I mean... binjured got the league together then fucked out... somebody with internet skills needs to take charge...

 

People have been doing things, various games and such and working on lore. No one is actively farming to anyone, the purpose of the main thread is to inform and hopefully interest others to join us as a whole. Binjured like the rest of us have many obligations to tend to, such as with shadow and his exams, me with my work and others with their things. So you can see that most of us are quite busy. If someone is to take charge in place of Binjured as a temp, then it would have to be discussed with Binjured or have a majority vote among the members on who will take over.

 

Oh and good luck on your exam shadow.

Reply #268 Top

Hope for the best..plan for the worst... ;) Such a lovely saying!

Whatever happens...we'll get to Christmas anyways....another one!

 

Thanks a lot Nyczzz.

 

As I said...I guess I'll be bringing up a forum-type website for the Official league. The site would include a map with the current standings in terms of galaxy occupation, the various factions (the access beign restricted to the memebers of the said factions ONLY! (restrictions FTW), and above all THE RULES +_+ as well as a nice Free Lounge for all chat.

etc...and anything you guys can pitch along!

Reply #269 Top

BTW it will also house the various links to your own forums..for even more discreet talks +_+

Reply #270 Top

How are the maps comming along? I forgot who was in charge of creating them.

Reply #271 Top

Ue- Carbon! The moment they are done on paper, I can translate them into Galaxy Forge equivalent and we can REALLY start this ;)

Reply #272 Top

Yeah sorry, we been busy behind the scene me and Xenon that is to make a map that give the current lore some support. I mean I could of thrown a map divided into thirds up along time ago but that boring and not true to lore, since we are a Role Playing league, lore is king.

Glad yall brought up the map again, I need a estimate on how big your faction is compared to your race. For example our lore says we are just a small part on the TEC machine, but we are near the front lines so thats why we are fighting.

We been hard making room for other factions and such if and when they appear.

 

Quoting Desamator, reply 15
Is any1 even doing anything... besides sitting here and farming members..? I mean... binjured got the league together then fucked out... somebody with internet skills needs to take charge...

:troll:  :waaaa: :thumbsdown: <_<  ...Im sooo sooo sooo glad you didnt join -Ue_. I would of kicked you out for you bad attituide by now. Good luck Shadow managing that little dick.

Reply #273 Top

My faction is also a rising empire...thus we control next to nothing as of yet but the few worlds we do posses are ultra-defended!

They're the only remnants of our Empire..and thus we defend them with everything we got!

 

As for Desamators attitude...I'm the middle child in a family of three, so I've grown accustomed to it!

Thanks Carbon!

 

Well exam time for me (30 minutes)! Here goes... I'll see you all after ;)

Reply #274 Top

Anyone want to host a game tonight??

Also in regards to the map, Unless your not looking for osmething that well constantly rp off of....

I played a game called eve at one point and the universe was divided by four factions make it three for our case with home systems tht you cannot take, can alwasy attack, but outside these systems were neutral space tht you could claim and do w/e in it, perhaps doing something the same for our map? 3 special systems untakable, but attackable, along with countless other systems in between for us to rage our little war on claiming and taking planets within them, thats of course were hoping for like a constant universe struggle type thing, which eve has, but these are my two cents.

Reply #275 Top

I am curious on how the wins and losses are handled in a paticular system or planet or region. I have a image of how Tom Clancy End War was set up with where you have to win and maintain control over certain areas to gain access to attack another, but that might be a bit too much for a small group as we are right now.

Umm as for our territory, i believe we control several converted planets just outside TEC space and a few just within its borders. Naut if you can confirm or correct me here but thats what i believe we control.

Also as for a game tonight, i might be able to make it, ill try to get on at around 11pm to midnight though. Hopefully people are still up for a game then.