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On Piracy and PC Gaming

On Piracy and PC Gaming

Stardock's 2 cents on the issue

Lately there have been a lot of articles that have painted the PC market as being "doomed" due to piracy. Piracy is certainly a major issue that PC game developers have to deal with. But there are other issues at hand that we think are larger.

If you're interested in our take on PC game piracy, read the article below:

>> Piracy & PC Gaming

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Reply #101 Top
You guys forgot to mention that several dozen people have openly admitted to pirating first then going legit and they still have active accounts here and even a few who have not gone legit as far as I can tell. I have seen on other developers ANYONE that has admitted such action has been summarily banned and their license revoked. Talk about showing love for the converted and honest. With customer support policies like that it is no wonder many people have real issues with many developers.



True that, thanks for not banning me SD! God knows theres more reasons that just that to ban me tho, lol.

And I agree, as soon as even the word piracy pops up in something that isn't an official announcement the person making the statement usually gets a quick ban and deleted thread. You guys at SD are tops, Kudos!!!

I'm legit with sins, but shall not stop my practice of try before I buy until the entire DRM/Poor Quality and no returns issues get fixed(except with SD, they've won me over).

Until then, YARRRR!!!
Reply #103 Top
Star Dock isn't the only devs willing to let people discuss piracy on their forum actually. I recall a lengthy discussion of piracy and cracks at Kerberos's forums where Swords of The Stars was concerned.

(the short version is some of us were complaining about the requirements of the cd being in the drive and wanted that requirement removed in the next patch and the widespread use of a crack to get around this and trying to find one that worked 100%. If I remember right it was one of the devs that happily pointed out the location of just such a crack and wished us luck with it because they had no control over the copyright protection crap stuck on the disc. (that was the producer lighthouse's fault and they wouldn't let them remove it in a later patch even though they did ask) There was also a later discussion with the devs about how the game ran easily three times as fast and smooth when using the crack so they could make the needed changes in the next patch to give improved performance.)

All in all Star Dock and Kerberos are the only two companies I cheerfully give my money to without any reservations because of the support and understanding they show their customers. (and the top quality products they produce)
Reply #104 Top
@Silveressa - That is true. You should also check out Paradox although they are not as permissive (yet) on such topics.
Reply #105 Top
Yeah, books are pirated hardcore. Many times the full book is leaked before its released. But in my particular situation, that didn't even occur to me, and thank you for pointing out that there is a little bit more to do. Right now I'm about 2 hours drive away from the nearest book store, so thats not even really an option. Not at the rate that I read. I already own most of the forgotten realms collection, and dragonlance, bunch of books by terry brooks, the wheel of time, etc. I read a lot, and have already read almost everything that interests me(including every topic I can think of on wikipeda). Also, I live in a town of 250 people at the moment. I wouldn't call it a 'hick' town precisely, since that implies that we're in the US somewhere back in hillbilly country, and we're not. Not even close. High speed internet is available in the next town down the coast, but not here, coming soon(tm) though. D&D is maybe a once a week fix, at best. IF you can find enough people that are interested that can get together even that often.


Read a biology, chemistry, genetics, etc. book. They will keep you occupied, entertained, and smart. But I suggest you spend a few hours a day posting on forums too.
Reply #106 Top

GamesIndustry.biz just published an article about Mr. Riccitiello's (EA CEO) comments recently about Spore, piracy, customers and DRM. The article is well written and pretty much sums up the collective feelings of PAYING gamers everywhere. If you have a few minutes free please give it a read. You can do so here.

 

Reply #107 Top

Interesting arguement so far, eventhough last I checked, this and many of their other topics on hand, that deal within range of their "Gamers Bill of Rights" target area, is vilacious at best. I never liked this idea, even though I can call myself a retired pirate at large, with pride in my heart, then again that was only when I was younger. One thing I hated the most was when Congress tried categorizing gamers, and making an age requirement, when everyone of us knows, that gamers aren't aged by age alone, but by their score overall.

If you have a low score, your young, high, your and old grizzly ancient, who games, with passion in your heart, I just try and keep my score, as low as possible. I also like the fact when they did try and categorize us, through an age, and put up restrictions in an already constricted enviroment. They only then again, did this after ah what was it, two kids getting stocked, because of going online and acting stupid in an in-game lobby. Having private conversations, with someone older then you, isn't good for you at all, unless it has to do with the game your playing.

When they restricted the age, the gaming community suffered, not the publishers they were only constricted to make their games for a more adult crowd. Even though last I checked, games aren't what changed or the gamers, it was the rules they instilled on us all, that made us change. This is what may or may not have sparked a very large amount of piracy, since there was a restriction on age, you have to have an ID to buy this, or you have to have your SS to register this. Then again I don't remember any that required an SS, but who knows maybe there out there now, making us do stupid crap for their glouring needs.

On piracy pursay, since the restrictions were put in place all those years ago, by none other then Senator Lieberman, Clinton, and some guy I can't remember the name to. The gaming community had to get a bit more aggressive in it's none linear actions, and start by shadily moving about in the gaming world.  Now this storm they speak of coming now, isn't our storm we brought on ourselves, it's they who should not be named, who brought this upon us.

Some say it could of started with the publishers cracking down on pirates, and sewing their teenage ass' to oblivion, or when certain game making restrictions, such as registering your cd/dvd, with the publisher. Or it could be said it all started with actual discussion on piracy, that sparked this whole doonbockle we are now facing. It can't be accertained, and it can't be quantified, but what can be said, "is WE the Gamers have taken too much abuse for crimes that have no validity, or linear thought, WE the Gamers, must act, before the They(the publishers), act for us."

"Now isn't the time for us to sit back and discuss this any further, it's time to start acting, debating it, putting our idea's into text that can be both quantified, and defined, so that when history is to look back. She won't see a bunch of idiots sitting around arguing a point of a games worth and while, but a large force to be recognized, and worried upon. Since this is the time, then I say we do start acting out against those damn people who made us push to this point of validation, as to corner us, and name us for what we were never. WE can't just let this slide by, WE can't just let THEM, make the rules, if it's gamers who deserve a bill of rights, then it's WE who should pass it by. And since in history, it's always shown that it's not the gamer persay but the publisher defending us, because we are lazy and stupid, it's time WE prove them wrong."

 

History is such an old slut, we helped make even sluttier, by not doing anything but talking, and allowing such volacious acts of aggression as to allow many more if not large amounts of martyrs for our cause of just playing a game. The older, myself included, don't go to my profile and say I'm only eighteen, I'm 24, and been in this industry for too long to see, so many Fallen Gamers, at the hands of those who would rather have our service then have our input on said genre's.

We've allowed to much abuse to come from people who have categorized us, put us in some stupid demographic, and defined us, when it was we through shadowy ways, were truly categorized, not by name, but by experience on the many battlefields we chose to stand, and fight.

Now this new battlefield, has come, and we can't just walk away and say it's gotten too real, it's gotten too mosaic on the fact it's just a game, no more is it a game, when some kid get karted off to jail for nothing done wrong. Last I checked, it doesn't matter the age, in our world, it's the experience of the said gamer that changed his/her true age to us. Our world isn't run by rules of the water, or law of the land, or by bi-laws of the forest, it's run by vicious ravenous beasts who would rather see us their sheep, walk in an even smaller more controlled circle. Yet last I checked, we're only wolves wearing the masks of sheep, since it was the game, that made us monsters, we aren't sheep acting like wolves, we are wolves pretending to be sheep, by calling it a game, what fools we made ourselves to be, confusius would be proud.

 

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