You JOIN Pogue's game as usual : he, the host, is responsible for reloading.

Alright, thatnks. Im headed to ICO now.

I'm off to ICO too. The time is 7:32½.

same password, btw

mage did you get booted? we saw your name for a split second then you were gone

I deleted the 2 newbie3 files : email them to me now. Ill PM you my e mail address.

I was not aware that I had to keep those files to join a reload !

OK sent them.

I thought just the host needed them myself. ;/

Me too.

I got the 2 files, put them at the proper place, but I still get the message that I don't have the files (even though I exited and restarted).

I don't understand. Well : finish the game without me. I'll know better next time.

I'll try reloading the game again, see if a fresh start lets you in

OK....i cant believe its the autorecord multiplayer file that is also required (certainly noty all those autosaves!!!)

It doesn't work !! The 2 files should be sufficient.

Like I said in the previous post, all that extra stuff should not be required.

Sorry. Proceed without me.

EDIT - P.S. > 11:00 PM.

One hypothesis why it failed is that when the host saves the game, it sends the instruction for the other PCs to also save, but the saved-game files, even though they have the same name (newbie3), contain in part specific data which correspond to the specific place of a PC's owner within the game.

Then, in our case, what I received by e-mail was Pogue's host version of newbie3, but when I tried to join the game, that version was already in use : I should have brought in the missing version -- which I had deleted.

It's only an hypothesis, but a plausible one. Oh well : now we know.

But I'm certain that you two could win without my help : I had trouble getting out of my turtle's shell to join your fight on the hot frontline.

Joe, if you want to finish our game up it'll have to be either tonight or Friday night, I won't be around on Thursday.


Mage your turtle shell is still miraculously intact, so if you want us to try to get you back in the game let me know. Who knows, maybe you have enough cash and minerals saved up by now to build a huge armada and bust out of that shell!

Pouge, i can definaetely finish it up tonight, but right now its an maybe for firday.

"Miraculously" ?! Nothing miraculous there : I had built huge defenses on the 3rd planet, and was in the process of building some on my 4th (Arctic). Also, my main fleet was there, keeping the door closed.

I did have a significant reserve of all resources : it was my plan to build-up more ships to send an expedition to harass the comps.

I don't believe it's possible for me to come back into the game, for the reasons given in my previous post's P.S.

I've learned my lesson : no game-file clean-up until a MP is finished.

Thanks anyway for the thought. There will be another occasion for me to un-turtle with you guys, I hope.

ok sounds good. i got a few things to do first.....does 7:30 sound good?

Mage, i was thinking maybe we could do something with one of the autosave files. I notice that anyone can use a record file from someone else's game and computer, maybe autosave files are the same way. But anyway, your idea to not clean out game files mid game is probably a good one.

Ya, 7:30 sounds great. And I really have no idea what your talking about with all this file stuff; my amount of tech-savvy is very limited. I hope you understand if i'm unable to help.

I don't think so, Pogue.

A record file does not allow the viewer to play in a game : it only grants him the possibility to view a replay from any angle.

I believe we would experience the very same type of problem with an autosave than with the newbie3 save :

If you (or Joe) send me your autosave, I could not join, because it would be the autosave from your position in the game, not from Neologic's -- that one was destroyed forever. Neologic's position is not available anymore.

My hypothesis goes like this :

1. The HOST's Sins program proceeds into an autosave (or a newbie3 save)
2. The other human players'Sins program receive from the Host the instruction to proceed into their own autosaving (or newbie3 saving)
3. When reloading a saved game, each participant must bring to the table his own version of the save, which exclusively corresponds to his position in the game.

Consequently, sending me a Pogue or a Joe newbie3 or autosave cannot work if I try to join a game where the Pogue and Joe files are already in use.

Perhaps, what could have worked, yesterday, is if I had received Joe's newbie3 files and if I had tried to join as a pseudo-Joe -- if, and only if, Joe had not already been there.

Many games do not proceed like that in the MP saving process, but I suspect that Sins has a more restrictive game-reload procedure.

Thanks for caring, but I don't mind if Joe and you continue without me : I was not contributing much to your warfare and welfare, anyway.

Alright, i'm off to ICO now. See ya there, Pouge

I'm looking to host another newbie game on Sunday evening. Not exactly sure of the time.....7:00pm or 8:00pm most likely. Anyone who's interested just reply in this thread before then!

I'm home again this weekend, so I'd be interested in jumping into another game.

Bh

I'd be interested.

OK great! It looks like it's going to be 8pm. I've promised a friend I'd help him set up his new surround system and I won't be home til around then. I was hoping to do another human team vs AI team game like we did in the past, but I am open to other suggestions. Don't worry Bhruic, I've gotten better than I was in the first game so I won't need to rely on your generosity this time (I hope).

Bhruic and Tigonz, I've sent you a PM with the password in it. Mage, EL_Tea or Joe Momma, if any of you are up for it the password will be the same one as the other games. Anyone else interested, I'll send you the password when I get back.

I'd like to play tonight too.