Yes, but again that is if she even gets in (I doubt she will) and second of all how many seats will be up for grabs in the next year?



I can't answer this question Gid. I am not aware of the numbers in the foster care system, now and say 10 years ago without doing some HW. I do know that we have loving parents around us that are involved in foster care. Two families here in my chuch have adopted at least 3 of these children. They are very fortunate children who in very good homes.



You say condescension...I say encouragement. We say that around here alot. Where's your faith? To help wake us up to remember who/what to focus on. Christians are to encourage one another; spur each other on. It's not said in a negative tone. Sorry if it seemed that way.

Sooooo exactly how empty is that glass Gid.....  ?



not necessarily. I mean if it happens it happens. God is in control. Whether we vote for Hillary or not. God has a predetermined time when the end will be the end and he will not be a second late. It has nothing to do with our voting practice. It's clear by scripture that it is he who sets the kings upon their thrones. He will allow or disallow according to his plan, not ours.

Besides all this? I am totally convinced the "right wing" is NOT going to get Rudy elected. That's why I keep saying I think Huckabee is the guy. I really DON'T think it will be Rudy anyway. He has too much baggage. Time will tell. If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it. But right now, I just can't see or believe it.

See, that's another rationale that I consider mindboggling. "She can't leave a bigger mess than Bush did so let's just elect her".

The truth is, cikomyr, I view George W. Bush as one of our worst presidents ever, if not THE worst. I don't view an alternative as acceptable simply because they can't do worse. You're going to have to do better than that!

KFC,

If all of the conservative Christians "take a walk" as Dobson has suggested, then the Democrats will win IN A LANDSLIDE because the vote is split. I honestly believe that is exactly what Dobson wants, and every pamphlet, book, or tape I have from his organization is now headed for the landfill.

Meaning that the politics of ONE political persuasion will dominate. That's never a good thing, cikomyr. Ever.

I am a firm believer that one reason Bill Clinton's administration enjoyed such success was because the President and the Congress were controlled by different parties. This meant there had to be negotiation to get anything past the table. It started out rough, but most people agree it worked rather effectively.

While I am admitting to the hyperbolic nature of this illustration up front, cikomyr, I will say Hitler was a good administrator. The point I am making in saying this is not to equate Hillary with Hitler, but to say that a good administrator does not necessarily mean that the end result is a government we desire.



Easy. By continuing with an abyssmally failed foreign policy (Ms. Clinton, for your information, has rubber stamped virtually every foreign policy decision of this administration!), and implementing an equally disastrous domestic policy. By continuing the push towards censorship (HILLARY has been leading the charge towards censorship against video games, and one need look no further than Jena to see that free speech is pretty much on the outs in this country, and the Dems are at the helm of the ship driving it out!) as well as making criminals out of those who do not carry health insurance (yes, that is the Hillary "plan"; she is the largest recipient of money from the health care lobby by FAR), Hillary can very well make things, not only worse, but MUCH more so.

But I suppose you'll just call that spreading fear and half truth. After all, you are the expert on US government, are you not?

Yup, but on the other hand, Bush so-called "good" foreign policy has alienated the USA at unprecedent level worldwide, even your allies are less sure about following you into new military ventures now. NATO is less eager to send troops along yours.

Now forgetting that the USA Army's infantry power is critically overused and underavailable. If a pandemic was to be declared in the USA (like the Avian Flu), a quick scramble of manpower would be necessary to control it (like in "Executive Order", nice little book). The USA are not ready anymore to face that kind of treath that would require a large amount of manpower.

So... I don'T really see how the USA are in anyway STRONGER now than they were before the Bush administration, either diplomaticly or on a military level. Say what you can about the Clinton's administration, but they left the country in a ready-state, and with stronger allies than Bush can ever hope to.



Not really. And no, I won't call that spreading fear and half-trugh, because in that case, you are right about your facts.

Whether I vote for her or against her, she's probably going to win my state anyway. My voice can only count to make a third party a reality in the next election. If I throw my vote to a candidate I don't like anyway, I AM throwing my vote away.

But before I do that I will look more closely at the voting record around here to make sure we're really a blue state, and not one of those wishy-washy states. Haven't been here that long.

I can't think of any major candidate more totalitarianistic than Hillary. That is why she is so dangerous for the US.