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Biggest Non-Story of 2007

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January 20, 2007 10:21:08 AM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums

Ok, the year is yet young, but this has got to be the biggest non-story.  After preening and primping for the last 6 years, Hillary has finally tossed her bonnet into the 08 Presidential ring.

And the MSM treats it like the second coming of Christ.  Oh well, I guess weekends are slow news days.  Because this should have been a footnote on page A-8, since it has been reported since she won in 2000.

Ho-Hum.

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Reply #1 January 20, 2007 10:46:33 AM
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Is she in with a chance Doc?
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Reply #2 January 20, 2007 10:53:05 AM
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Is she in with a chance Doc?

It all depends upon who the republicans run.  Her campaign has already started a smear on Obama (he is now considered the front runner - but that wont last), so I think she has a good chance to get the nomination.  If the republicans run a strong Governor, no, she has no chance.  If they run a weak senator, yes she does.

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Reply #3 January 20, 2007 11:53:14 AM
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uggggg I think I'm going to be sick....and it's been coming so none of us can really be surprised. I, for the life of me, cannot see the attraction here. My grandmother LOVES her even decorating her house with Hilary's pictures all over the place. I liken it to Hilary worship and I can't wrap my head around it at all.

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Reply #4 January 20, 2007 12:17:29 PM
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uggggg I think I'm going to be sick....and it's been coming so none of us can really be surprised.

Dont worry.  While Bill's pecadillos are probably not going to come out against her, her Rose Law Firm "I cant remember" and "where are those billing records?" are going to be used by her opponents.  And not even the Republicans.  The Democrats will do the dirty work.  If she gets the nomination, her past is going to be open for the world to see, and it cannot stand the light of day.

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Reply #5 January 20, 2007 1:03:48 PM
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I think I'd prefer Obama...but we'll see where it goes.

If the Republicans try and run with Jeb Bush I will then know that Armageddon is upon us.

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Reply #6 January 20, 2007 1:22:18 PM
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If the Republicans try and run with Jeb Bush I will then know that Armageddon is upon us.

I think you can forget that one.  But as far as Obama, I fear he will not last long.  The Clinton machine has already started on him.  He wont last.

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Reply #7 January 20, 2007 1:51:35 PM
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I think you can forget that one.


Whew...that's a relief.

But as far as Obama, I fear he will not last long.


Probably not. Pity, he seems like a decent guy...I'd like to hear if he has some war strategy before he gets eaten by the aforementioned Clinton machine.

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Reply #8 January 20, 2007 2:08:29 PM
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I'd like to hear if he has some war strategy before he gets eaten by the aforementioned Clinton machine.

In that I dont expect to hear much until the general election.  The democrats will be saying one of 2 things.  Out now, or time line for a draw down.  Their base is going to demand at least the latter.

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Reply #9 January 20, 2007 2:15:37 PM
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I think she would be an 'orrible first female president - don't you have a better female candidate? Someone a bit more likeable for the first one?
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Reply #10 January 20, 2007 2:17:21 PM
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I think she would be an 'orrible first female president - don't you have a better female candidate? Someone a bit more likeable for the first one?

Condi Rice - but she is not going to run.

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Reply #11 January 20, 2007 2:35:38 PM
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Condi Rice - but she is not going to run.


why does someone not "make" her run then?
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Reply #12 January 20, 2007 2:40:28 PM
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why does someone not "make" her run then?

Because anyone that runs is going to be trashed.  And some just do not want to put themselves and their families through that.  No one can be forced to run.  IN time, there will be a woman president.  But she is going to have to have a lot less baggage than hillary.

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Reply #13 January 20, 2007 3:47:13 PM
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If the republicans run a strong Governor, no, she has no chance. If they run a weak senator, yes she does.


Actually, Dr. Guy, I think the negativity around Hillary will limit her chances. As Dick Morris observede, Obama has an advantage Hillary does not; he doesn't come with baggage.

Frankly, on the GOP side, I believe pretty firmly in Ron Paul. If he gets the GOP nomination, he stands a VERY good chance at beating anybody the Dems throw up because of the Libertarians he will bring back into the fold (don't forget, he was the LP Presidential candidate in '88). I've heard a LOT of buzz RE: Paul on the Libertarian message boards, and I think that's significant enough not to rule him out.
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Reply #14 January 20, 2007 4:01:04 PM
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Condi Rice - but she is not going to run.


why does someone not "make" her run then?


You can't "make" someone run for president. When you run, you lay out your personal life for everyone to see. And on top of that....a regular life? You give that up also.
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Reply #15 January 20, 2007 4:18:17 PM
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Actually, Dr. Guy, I think the negativity around Hillary will limit her chances.

I will not argue that.  But look how close Kerry came in 04, and he truly had a lot of baggage.

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Reply #16 January 20, 2007 4:18:59 PM
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regular life? You give that up also.

And why most people never want to run for the office!

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Reply #17 January 20, 2007 4:54:28 PM
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But look how close Kerry came in 04, and he truly had a lot of baggage.


Not like Hillary, Dr. Guy. While I hate to reference polls, most polls put the number of people who say they will "definitely NOT" vote for Hillary somewhere in the upper 40 percent. She would need to get virtually everyone else to vote for her, if that polling is correct.

Honestly, I think it will come down to: is the DNC more race sensitive or gender sensitive? And I wouldn't entirely rule out the possibility of a LOT of African American votes jumping away from the Dems if she is successful in her smear campaign against Obama. Running attack ads on Obama would be a VERY ill advised move, I believe.
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Reply #18 January 20, 2007 4:56:56 PM
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Running attack ads on Obama would be a VERY ill advised move, I believe.

No, she is too sneaky for ads.  She uses her dupes in the MSM.  The most recent is that Obama (SHOCK!) actually went to a muslim school as a child.

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Reply #19 January 20, 2007 5:08:03 PM
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You can't "make" someone run for presiden


thats why the "make" is in inverted commas - meaning persuade and put up the money etc. not force

And on top of that....a regular life? You give that up also.


I would say her life is pretty irregular already? Would running for the big one make very much difference to her life?

Anyway just so long as it is not the SPB
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Reply #20 January 20, 2007 5:16:42 PM
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I would say her life is pretty irregular already? Would running for the big one make very much difference to her life?


As a matter of fact, yes it would make a very large difference IMHO.
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Reply #21 January 20, 2007 5:21:51 PM
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Would running for the big one make very much difference to her life?


Yes, it would. It would make a HUGE difference.

Do you want to know why one of our most qualified, competent, and universally respected candidates will not run? Because of family issues unrelated to his ability to hold office and which the media has no business delving into.

The candidate I am speaking of is, of course, Colin Powell. A great man, one that history will almost certainly record as one of the best secretaries of state we've ever had, but who does not want his family to suffer for his political ambitions.

I know the complete contempt in which you hold me for DARING to even CONSIDER running for office, jennifer, but I will tell you that just my race for the state House of Representatives has changed things pretty dramatically...I assure you that a race for the presidency is hundreds of times more grueling.
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Reply #22 January 20, 2007 5:40:45 PM
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Would running for the big one make very much difference to her life?

Actually given her profession and accomplishments, yes.  She has done something that few ever get to.  Gotten to the top in her field.  And while hers is more political, I would not trade that for an oval office if I could say that.

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Reply #23 January 20, 2007 5:41:34 PM
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As a matter of fact, yes it would make a very large difference IMHO.

I really should read all before responding.  Ditto Doc!

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Reply #24 January 20, 2007 5:43:30 PM
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Yes, it would. It would make a HUGE difference.

Seems we all are of one mind here.

I assure you that a race for the presidency is hundreds of times more grueling.

I cannot say "yea, I know that", but I can say that I fear that.  And that is why I never will. Run that is.

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Reply #25 January 21, 2007 2:18:37 PM
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And John Edwards Doc?
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