Resident Bush Basher ignores all common sense and logic WHY?

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No text should be needed given the current 'run' of bashing articles that all seem to -- yet again -- blame everything that ails anything, anyone, everything and everyone on Pres. Bush.

The sun isn't shining. Must blame Bush.
{ no logical way to argue this either way, and yet the automaton troll would try if there was nothing else to write about }

Mines aren't safe. Bush.
{ never mind that they weren't safe during the Clinton, Carter, Johnson, Kennedy and many other admins either... }

Cars aren't fuel efficient enough. Bush.
{ ignores fact that Congress sets CAFE standards }

Pick a topic and the ignorant automaton will write about it...

It must be time to start hawkin' a new book that no one is gonna buy. Don't you just hate automatons?

Don't forget to use your trolling points at every possible opportunity.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Gotta give this one a gentle forum push... After all there are just so many other things out there that the basher will obviously comment on...
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
I am tellin yaa, he is perma pissy because he could not get that star on his shoulders.
Galactic Civilizations IV
Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
I am tellin yaa, he is perma pissy because he could not get that star on his shoulders.


I think it's because he was too busy jammin' his thumb up the star in the seat of his pants
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
I feel sorry for him. I don't think he's right (in the head, I mean). OCD or something. I kina pity him.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
At the same time some of you unabashedly LOVE your president and see no fault in him whatsoever.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
At the same time some of you unabashedly LOVE your president and see no fault in him whatsoever.


I think you are smart enough to know that is not true.

What many of us (that are perceived as Bush supporters) know is that Bush is not singlehandedly, nor even with his 'minions', responsible for all that ails the world.

Pres. Bush has made moves I don't necessarily support, but he's doing one of the toughest jobs we have in this country. He should be criticized for *his* failures, not for any and every possible issue that one can imagine and try to assign blame for.

As an example, were I a certain C.O.L., I would assign the blame for your comments to Pres. Bush, even though I know you don't necessarily like the guy. Surely something Pres. Bush did made you make those statements, so I'd be right. I would pull up a few long articles, copy them completely, claim they supported my point and ignore all logic that would show me just how wrong my hypotheses is. In other words, there's no direct relationship between Bush and your comments saying that some people love him and find no faults that could be used to show you are a Bush fan, and yet the Clueless one would find it where it doesn't exist.

For the haters of Bush, go on hating. Hate is a horrible emotion. It causes many to waste a lot of effort that could instead be put to productive use to effect positive change in areas you want to see change in. Instead, Haters like PzzSchool above just hate, complain, and wish ill upon others and never really do anything to be sure to get the results they want, that are there to be achieved if you don't make stupid assumptions or believe idiotic conspiracy theories that say that one man, Pres. Bush, will be sure to stop everything you try or prevent the changes you are aiming for.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
It's ironic, while I was a troll-a-holic, I thought that taking shots at him was part of the JU fun. I can honestly say that, once Kingbee & Texas Wahine called me on it, and your Troll-a-holic's anonymous 1 step program helped me free myself of it, I've had a lot more fun here. In fact, it's almost to the point that I don't even remember him being here at JU at all.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Stevan:
At the same time some of you unabashedly LOVE your president and see no fault in him whatsoever.


Oh, c'mon, how many of us who do support Prs. Bush hasn't written a few comments or whole articles calling him to task?

On the other hand, if you want to find something good said about Prs. Bush from most of the Bush Bash Bus, you'll be looking a long time.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
I have found a better way.  Hehehehehe.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
What we see are the consequences of the policy changes that Bush and his supporters in Congress have enacted. Like the mine safety GPS issue, at the time there were no negative effects and it saved mine operators money (at the behest of a lobby group I bet) and met the objectives of the conservatives. However, now we see these choices have negative consequences. Since the actions that would have helped locate the miners was stopped by Bush, WHO IS AT FAULT?
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
However, now we see these choices have negative consequences. Since the actions that would have helped locate the miners was stopped by Bush, WHO IS AT FAULT?


This is where I can't help but start off by calling you an idiot Col. Maybe it never occurred to you that all of this may not have happened had they followed the rules in the first place. But you never acknowledged that once here or in your article. Not once did you blame the ones responsible for preventing the accident in the first place and blame them for the deaths that occurred. Simply because they didn't have the proper equipmet to FIND them, not SAVE them, only FIND them, you blame it all on Bush because it's convenient for your mission to Bash Bush.

At the same time some of you unabashedly LOVE your president and see no fault in him whatsoever.


I understand your point, but keep in mind, why are you not part of the Bush Bashing clan of trolls? At least I don't consider you one, because you try to put forth the problems we have and the policies you don't agree with yet I don't see you bashing Bush in the process. It is one thing to not like or agree with certain things, which is what you do, but to constantly find a way to blame Bush for any death or anything that goes wrong is a completely different story. I have barely seen you or anyone else defend andy of Col's arguments, that says a lot considering that the only thing you all have in common is not liking Bush and/or his policies.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top

I feel sorry for him. I don't think he's right (in the head, I mean). OCD or something. I kina pity him.


I could only pitty him if I actually knew he was sick in the mind, a peperoni short of a meat pizza, had a screw lose, but I don't know for sure. I remember hearing that people don't go to the crazy house because they stupid.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
DKBandit

You are wrong. Bush has now said we need to do more to help mine safety. Accidents will happen. In fact the accident that killed 12 miners was believed the result of lightning. If The GPS proposal was not stopped, we would have known were the miners were and be better able to rescue them.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
MM dons old liberal hat. Well let me say this about that.

The democratic party stands for, ummmmmm what was I talking about?

Oh yeh we know a much better way to ruin things, oooppppsssss fix things.

ok I am going now. tax you very much.. damn it I met thank you very much.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
You are wrong. Bush has now said we need to do more to help mine safety. Accidents will happen. In fact the accident that killed 12 miners was believed the result of lightning. If The GPS proposal was not stopped, we would have known were the miners were and be better able to rescue them.


No you are wrong, even with the GPS systems they might have still died. But you still chose to blame Bush for this.

Here's some info for your uneducated mind.

How does a GPS work?
GPS units are dependent on signals from the sky, so won’t work underground, underwater or inside most buildings. They work fine in rough terrain and most of the time in the forest. Don’t expect a fix in a steep gully under heavy bush canopy. They will work in your car.


They don't work underground because they rely on a signal that can't penetrate land. So you see, it wouldn't have mattered and chances are those radios might have had the same problem. I hear about new types of phones being used in China, a new type of satelite phone, that could be used underground, but we do not have that tech yet and just imagen how much it could cost. Stop being so ignorant to the facts Col Gene. You say they believe it might have been a lightning strike that doesn't mean it was.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
No text should be needed given the current 'run' of bashing articles that all seem to -- yet again -- blame everything that ails anything, anyone, everything and everyone on Pres. Bush.

The sun isn't shining. Must blame Bush.
{ no logical way to argue this either way, and yet the automaton troll would try if there was nothing else to write about }

Mines aren't safe. Bush.
{ never mind that they weren't safe during the Clinton, Carter, Johnson, Kennedy and many other admins either... }

Cars aren't fuel efficient enough. Bush.
{ ignores fact that Congress sets CAFE standards }

Pick a topic and the ignorant automaton will write about it...

It must be time to start hawkin' a new book that no one is gonna buy. Don't you just hate automatons?

Why does it bother you so much? Is it because deep down, you know Bush is probably the worst president in U.S. history?

Don't forget to use your trolling points at every possible opportunity.

To the Bush sheep, anyone who criticizes the Bush administration is a troll.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
DJBandit

KEY WORD - MIGHT. They may have lived as well. We will never know since King George stopped the requirement. This is one of the changes he now is considering. Bush cares for ONE THING-- Higher Corporate Profits regardless of the impact on ANYTHING ELSE!
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
KEY WORD - MIGHT. They may have lived as well. We will never know since King George stopped the requirement. This is one of the changes he now is considering. Bush cares for ONE THING-- Higher Corporate Profits regardless of the impact on ANYTHING ELSE!


And who exactly profited from him stopping this? BTW you failed to read the other part about it not working underground. Col, those people may have died even with these systems so it is very ignorant to blame someone for something you can not prove. And for once stop acting so childish and stop screaming. It will not get you anymore points for doing so. Be a man and just debate without screaming.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
BTW, if they believed those systems may have worked and they cared enough about their own lives, they could have bought those systmes themselves since GPS systems are not that expensive.

Have you even done research on how often miners die in these mines? Maybe you should, you will realize that there are more people to blame than just Bush. Not that you care, the only ones that matter are those who died while Bush was in office. As usual, it benefits you strategy.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
KEY WORD - MIGHT. They may have lived as well. We will never know since King George stopped the requirement. This is one of the changes he now is considering. Bush cares for ONE THING-- Higher Corporate Profits regardless of the impact on ANYTHING ELSE!


How much time have you spent in underground mining, Col? I really would like to know this, as it directly impacts your credibility.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Have you even done research on how often miners die in these mines?


One of the most absurd comments I hear revolves around the question "well, why don't they open pit mine the minerals?"

1.) open pit mining is not always a viable option. 2.) even counting deaths in open pit mining, mining is still the deadliest profession overall (depending on who you talk to it trades places with crab fishing as the deadliest, but since the majority of crab fishing deaths fall in one category--drowning, and the mining deaths fall in several, mining usually comes out on top when all factors are considered).

While those factoids were tangential, they DO bring up the question: where's the similar outrage for the crab fishing industry?
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
As I said on the other blog, the mines in question had been told repeatedly that they weren't keeping to the safety standards we have NOW. It's irrational to believe that they would have been keeping up even more safety standards than that.

Perhaps, as I said, it would be more actually enforce laws we already have, instead of making more that will also be ignored.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
I do not have to have mined coal to know that one of the first questions is WHERE ARE ANY POSSIBLE SURVIVORS LOCATED. Also with communications they would have known if they were alive. Who benefits-- Simple the corporations that run the mines. Their lobby groups push all the time to prevent ANY regulations that would cost them money. Mines in Canada have these devices as well as safe areas. Bush and the conservatives try and avoid ANYTHING that looks as if it may cost corporations anything. The joke here is that the mine has lost far more then the cost of these systems would have cost. It is just another example of the consequences of the conservatives policies Bush followws. It is the same for the Exxon Profits that Bush tried to justify yeaterday.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
By the way, the issues I include are straight forward stories that show the impact of what Bush is doing and not doing. I do not make up the stories they just keep coming day after day!