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"Impeach!"

"Impeach!"


“If there was ever a time in history to impeach a President of the United States, it would be now. In my opinion, it is two years too late … Shouldn't war be an absolute last resort? We went to war because we were misled. And we should be angry because of the 2,000 American soldiers and the 200 armed coalition forces that have died. We should be livid because of the 15,000 American soldiers that have been horribly maimed and wounded. We should be disgusted because of the 30,000 innocent Iraqi civilians that have been killed and the 20,000 that are wounded after administration officials claimed that the US was going to liberate the Iraqi people. When does it stop? It stops with the indictment and impeachment of this corrupt, power-hungry, greedy group of incompetent leaders. How many more have to die before this happens?”
- Barbara Streisand


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Reply #51 Top
About 2/3 of Americans feel Bush is wrong and is inept


Where do these people live? Everyone I know or hear discussing politics around here isn't anti-bush.

No way its 2/3rds.
Reply #52 Top
Where do these people live? Everyone I know or hear discussing politics around here isn't anti-bush.

No way its 2/3rds.


He suffers from delusions of self importance. You have to forgive him. he sees Bush behind every poll.
Reply #53 Top
Just as a note... notice the author of the thread never came back.

Me thinks our latest Foaming-At-The-Mouth Extremist is just trying to stir up shit and get their blog lots of points with minimal effort.
Reply #54 Top
he sees Bush behind every poll.


Reply #55 Top
Gen Franks prepared Op Plan 1003 which was the invasion of Iraq. That plan is described in, "Plan of Attack" and on page 96 " Phase Four - stabilizing an occupied Iraq. During that phase the remander of the force would arrive taking it to about 300,000"

In addition the CoS of the Army Gen Shinseki told Bush it would require several hundred thousand "Boots on the Ground". Since then other four star generals have stated the occupation phase did not have the manpower required to secure the borders and Amo Dumps. they did not have the man power to occupy terrorists areas after the military cleaned out a pocket of them and they rerturned. That required return attacks by US forces to battle the same terrorists two and three times. Force levels in the first Gulf war were just short of 500,000 and we did not have to occupy a unfriendly country full of terrorists.
Reply #56 Top
I hate what this administartion has done to our country.


And we hate the fact that you keep right on talking ignorant sh*t!
Reply #57 Top
Gen Franks prepared Op Plan 1003 which was the invasion of Iraq. That plan is described in, "Plan of Attack" and on page 96 " Phase Four - stabilizing an occupied Iraq. During that phase the remander of the force would arrive taking it to about 300,000"


Again, Link please

or

Who wrote the book?
Reply #58 Top
Gen Franks prepared Op Plan 1003 which was the invasion of Iraq. That plan is described in, "Plan of Attack" and on page 96 " Phase Four - stabilizing an occupied Iraq. During that phase the remander of the force would arrive taking it to about 300,000"


I have not read the book yet, but I highly suspect of your claim already. I have read the reviews and commentary on the book by 60 minutes, CBS News, NPR, and Newsweek. Of all those news agencies, not one has said one word about Franks asking for more troops. Strange that this evidence has not made front page headlines by all these Axe grinding publications.

But two articles do sight repeated request from Bush to Franks and his staff if they needed anything else. Which the answer was no. CBS even states "Woodward says immediately after that, Rumsfeld told Gen. Tommy Franks to develop a war plan to invade Iraq and remove Saddam - and that Rumsfeld gave Franks a blank check." The words blank check does not sound like Franks would have been refused anything (just as everybody that was in the war planning has verified).

Within the next few days I'll go to one of the big book stores that may have the book and read it there. But since Op Orders are atleast classified information and not generally released, I am suspecting that the plan Woodward has, may not be authentic. If it is authentic, I would like to see your outrage over Woodward’s publishing it and the leaker who gave it to him too. But I with not hold my breath over that.

Until I see other wise, I will take the word of General Franks himself.
Reply #59 Top
Sadaam was snubbing his nose at the U.N. The UN was slowly showing the world its impotence. As part of the UN we were looking weak and wishy washy.


the us has been snubbing its nose at the un for quite some time. the un looks weak and wishy-washy in no small part because its largest member doesn't live up to its treaty obligations as well as clearly indicating it doesn't feel it need respect the un's authority.

why should smaller member-states do any differently?
Reply #60 Top

Sorry, a Hollywood star has no credit with me.
I agree; I gave no credit to Reagan, too.

Impeachment is out of the question: there's no blue dress. Besides, the embarrassment of an incompetent Congress in approving the war is just as impeachable, except it has not, as well as the President, taken the NCLB competency test, proving their failings.  

Reply #61 Top
knock yourself out. I suggest you start a grass roots effort to have Bush impeached. Write letters, coordinate with the thousand other efforts undertaken by people as deranged as yourself. Then, when you look up and the next election is already underway and a Republican you hate just as much is going to win because all the sad little Dem crybabies have been focusing on Bush during a lame duck administration... well, we're really, really going to enjoy that.
Reply #62 Top
Welcome to "Kawfee Tawk with Roitwingah", and I have this to say: Barbra Streisand is a Hollywood Liberal, the most self-serving, hypocritical and idiotic strain. Therefore, anything she says is negated by this fact.
Barbra Striesand is also Jewish.
If we took her and dropped her in the middle of Iraq, she'd be dead in a matter of hours, probably in the process of frantically looking for US troops to protect her. Not a bad scenario, really. Like buttah. Ooh...now I'm getting all verklimt! Wait...here...I'll give you a topic:
Bush has broken---read my lips----no laws. Discuss!

Despite your personal feelings on the matter, that's the way it is. So sorry. How about offering a case for your side, rather than just cutting and pasting a quote that has no bearing anything anyway. Discuss!
Reply #63 Top
I agree; I gave no credit to Reagan, too.
--steved

I love when people say stuff like this. They just dismiss him with a patronizing wave.
Exactly like we did the USSR and Warsaw Pact; and not to forget Gore and Kerry. Ash heap of history time. See-YA!
Reply #64 Top
because its largest member doesn't live up to its treaty obligations
--kingbee

Like what?


as well as clearly indicating it doesn't feel it need respect the un's authority.
---kingbee

You mean the authority of that self-serving body that makes the Gambino Family look like the Partridge Family?
The UN has been in the process of making itself irrelevent for about 40 years now, and working hard at it.
Maybe we just finally got tired of their ineffectuality and conflicting agendas full of crap?
Reply #65 Top
I am far from deranged. There are many intelligent people working on impeaching Bush. This latest breaking of the law might just be the straw needed.
Reply #66 Top
Like Baker said, knock yourself out.
Reply #67 Top
Maybe we just finally got tired of their ineffectuality and conflicting agendas full of crap?
I love when people say stuff like this. They just dismiss [it] with a patronizing wave.


Reply #68 Top
This is the saddest article I have read in a long time. And I thought Col was bad. Did someone go about cloning Col or something?

It's bad enough that this article is about a comment from Barbara, but Col just seems to be the stupidest person on this planet for not even understanding the article or the questions posed by some of the people here.

Let me help you understand Col, educate you.

Definitions from dictionary.com:

impeach: to charge with a crime.

crime: An act committed or omitted in violation of a law forbidding or commanding it and for which punishment is imposed upon conviction.

Now, maybe you can explain to me where does it say that not sending enough troops or not giving them enough gear is a crime. You are a fool and an idiot cause you can't even make a decent argument without straying away from what was being spoken of in the first place.

For a person in your position who should be a smart person (or lucky) you have an incredible ability to sound ignorant. Not only do you not answer any of the questions, but you scream (which is very childish), you avoid questions, you base your ideas on hatred, you only search for info that backs your claims and disreguard anything else. Is this how you run that company you work for? I would be afraid to recieve service from you. Grow up already.