"Impeach!"

A quotation for a quotation.

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.
The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling
which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.
The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety,
is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless
made so and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
-John Stuart Mill- (1806-1873)

Take her easy, man...........

Oh yes, and he hasn't broken a law. Kind of hard to have a president in an impeachment trial for not breaking the law. Why does he get all the blame, anyways? If America really wants to stop the war, why not have Congress vote it to an end?

You've still failed to lay down the legal justification for impeachment or criminal investigation. Despite what you may want to believe, the Iraq war, while I disagree with it, was executed completely in accordance with US law and regulations.

You posted before about how it was just so obvious how laws were broken and such but never came back and backed up your statements with proof. And saying "It's just obvious! You must be wearing blinders!" is not proof or anything close to it. The rules of debating state that if you make a statement of fact, the burden of proof lies with YOU. Failure to provide proof shows that your argument is either completely false, or you are just parroting what others say without engaging in any critical thought of your own.

better men than himself

as far as Barbra goes... She is just another Hollywood star looking for a little press. I seriously doubt that she gives much concern for the people of Iraq while she is sitting in her million dollar mansion. But hey, stick a camera in front of her face and get her publicist behind her to pull the string and away the words fly.

Sorry, a Hollywood star has no credit with me. Anybody can make a statement. A real hero makes a difference.

Oh, and BTW, throwing up a quote with no other commentary than "Impeach" makes you look like just as much of a glory hound as she is.

Hmmmm, based on the amount of legal justification you have laid out for the impeachment of GW, we could then reason that Barbra's pathetic musical ability is enough to lock her up. (after all MY opinion should carry as much weight as some over-hyped ex-hollywood star!)

Shouldn't war be an absolute last resort? We went to war because we were misled.

I'd say 12 years of sanctions and deceptions was long enough. Please show us how wer were misled also.

You just got down crying on another blog about why the Conservatives seem to rally around the president and berate the liberals at the same time, and then you go and prove my point that I made in response to you.

You cant teach an old liberal dog new tricks.

The House has the power to bring a bill of impeachment and the Senate tries the President on those charges. The Constitution says "High Crimes and Misdemeanors."

For example, the President takes an oath to uphold the laws and Constitution of the United States. There are examples where Bush has failed to uphold our laws. Border security and immigration. Employing illegeas are just two.

The only problem I have is that would give us Cheney!

For example, the President takes an oath to uphold the laws and Constitution of the United States. There are examples where Bush has failed to uphold our laws. Border security and immigration. Employing illegeas are just two.

That shows the simple mind here. Border security has been a problem for decades, were you crying about it in the 90's col?

As usual we ask for proof of crimes, and here people like you come up with stupid answers like this. Thanks again col.

Island Dog.

What about sending our troops into battle without the proper equipment, with too few forces to accomplich the mission properly and twisting the facts about going to war in the first place.

For example, the President takes an oath to uphold the laws and Constitution of the United States. There are examples where Bush has failed to uphold our laws. Border security and immigration. Employing illegeas are just two.

Nope.  He has not hired any illegals, or allowed one illegal to cross the border.  Wrong again.  But consistently so.

What about sending our troops into battle without the proper equipment,

No matter how much or how little "proper equipment" the troops had you would still complain. Please prove how this is criminal.

with too few forces to accomplich the mission properly

Once again col, it's your opinion. Not a criminal charge.

and twisting the facts about going to war in the first place.

Col, there was no lies or fact twisting. Just get over that there was no lies.

I asked for proof and once again you can't provide it. How about a fact col, how many times has your books been on the Amazon best seller list?

I too allow Barbara Streisand to do all my heavy thingking:) Next week Martin Sheen will be writing my doctoral thesis on International Trade Treaty Law!

Island Dog

No not my opinion but that of the Army CoS, Gen Franks and just about all the other senior generals admit the force levels were far too small. That has caused more American deaths then if Bush had allowed the people with the experience to conduct the war. The lack of Body Armor and armored equipment is another example. The lack of troops allowed the terrorists to freely use the explosives in the Amo dumps to kill our troops. We did not control the borders that allowed foreign terrorists to help kill Americans. ALL because of the choices Bush made!

No not my opinion but that of the Army CoS, Gen Franks and just about all the other senior generals admit the force levels were far too small.

And that is still not criminal col. All your other rants and accusations are just as meaningless. I asked for proof and you still have no provided it.

This is cute. When challenged on another blog about why Bush should be impeached, AsWayOpens couldn't come up with much. Now, it looks like the answer is "Because Babwa says so..."

Hussein violated the cease fire, used Chinese equipment to bolster his defenses illegally, thwarted sanctions, paid bounties to the families of suicide bombers, and on, and on. We didn't need WMDs to invade, and anyone who thinks so after all these years of debate is an ignorant ass.

Babwa and people like her are traitors, spreading misinformation and propaganda against their nation in a time of war, and don't deserve citizenship anymore, period.

"there was no lies or fact twisting. "

Oh really...

Q Mr. President, in his speech to Congress, the Prime Minister opened the door to the possibility that you may be proved wrong about the threat from Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah.

Q Do you agree, and does it matter whether or not you find these weapons?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, you might ask the Prime Minister that. We won't be proven wrong --

PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: No.

PRESIDENT BUSH: I believe that we will find the truth. And the truth is, he was developing a program for weapons of mass destruction.

Now, you say, why didn't it happen all of a sudden? Well, there was a lot of chaos in the country, one. Two, Saddam Hussein has spent over a decade hiding weapons and hiding materials. Three, we're getting -- we're just beginning to get some cooperation from some of the high-level officials in that administration or that regime.

But we will bring the weapons and, of course -- we will bring the information forward on the weapons when they find them. And that will end up -- end all this speculation. I understand there has been a lot of speculation over in Great Britain, we've got a little bit of it here, about whether or not the -- whether or not the actions were based upon valid information. We can debate that all day long, until the truth shows up. And that's what's going to happen.

And we based our decisions on good, sound intelligence. And the -- our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind.

THE PRIME MINISTER: If I can just correct you on one thing. I certainly did not say that I would be proved wrong. On the contrary; I said with every fiber of instinct and conviction I believe that we are right. And let me just say this one other thing to you, because sometimes, again, in the debate in the past few weeks, it's as if, prior to the early part of this year, the issue of Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction were some sort of unknown quantity, and on the basis of some speculative intelligence, we go off and take action.

July 17, 2003

QUOTE, BUSH: "the truth is, he was developing a program for weapons of mass destruction." This is false, the opposite of telling the truth is lying. He did lie.

QUOTE, BUSH: "the truth is, he was developing a program for weapons of mass destruction." This is false, the opposite of telling the truth is lying. He did lie.

No, that is your opinion.  That is not a fact. Learn to tell the difference.

#17 by The Dr is a Quack (Anonymous user) Tuesday, November 08, 2005

I really would like to know how we were ever supposed to find out if he was developing a WMD program without invading Iraq. Sadam proved time and time again he wasn't going to open his doors and let us right in.

He was a menace to his own people and the rest of the world. WMD's or not ... I'm happy he is behind bars.

"No, that is your opinion. "

The opposite of truth is a lie? How can that be described as a personal opinion. Learn to tell the difference.

""the truth is, he was developing a program for weapons of mass destruction."

"We won't be proven wrong --

PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: No."

The whole thing stinks.

"I really would like to know how we were ever supposed to find out if he was developing a WMD program without invading Iraq. "

Well how do I know you're not making counterfeit money unless I kick down your door and sock you in the face?

You only go in if the intelligence is credible. It clearly wasn't, i.e. Blair's 45 minute claim from a decade old PhD thesis lifted from the net and the Africa uraniam claim Bush was told was not true but still included in his State of the Union. The intelligence was fixed around the drive for war, clearly the first resort not the last.

The opposite of truth is a lie? How can that be described as a personal opinion. Learn to tell the difference.

No, that Bush lied.  Dont play stupid, unless you are.

Again, people spread Wilson's lies. Wilson reported that while there was no evidence that an agreement had been reached, it was credible and iraq had in reality made overtures to purchase Uranium. The intelligence committee report noted that Wilson's report even HELPED convince some analysts that there was a threat.

Then he goes to the press and lies, gets caught in those lies, and becomes a part of the Kerry camaign, and writes material for idiot puppets like "Dr is a Quack".

Kerry camaign, and writes material for idiot puppets like "Dr is a Quack".

Aren't all kerry puppets quacks?