Slip sliding away

Texas style *BUMP* y'all!

First, name a president who did not go on vacation.

Second, why should he care?  He is not running for re-election.  The liberals are still using the 2004 playbook.  They are not smart enough to realize he cant run for re-election.

Ipsos, an international polling firm, conducted the poll of 1,000 adults between August 1-3. It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points

Wow. 1000 Americans tell us what the entire population thinks. I bet this is one of those polls where it's 70% democrats and 30% republicans polled.

His solution? Going on yet another vacation in Crawford.

You do realize that the President doesn't go on vacation. It's a 24 hour job no matter where you are or what you are doing.

Second, why should he care? He is not running for re-election. The liberals are still using the 2004 playbook. They are not smart enough to realize he cant run for re-election.

That's why they don't win elections. Instead of worrying about ideas of their own, they just hate Bush. Nothing else matters.

Well, regardless of what playbook the liberals are playing out of, I do think that it is of some concern, if not to the President himself, it should be to the conservatives. Any Republican party member that attempts to run behind Bush in '08 will have to be influenced by Bush's ratings. It's a pretty easy step to go from saying "See what Bush did!" to "See what the Republicans did!".

Don't get me wrong, I'm a Bush supporter and generally conservative by nature. And I don't think that a President should always act in accordance with polls, either. Just saying that there is more to this than saying "So what".

On a side note, I wish I could take a vacation every time a majority of my students were unhappy with my performance. I'd start dishing out heavy homework every night!

Whip,
Yes. Richard M. Nixon

Island doggie,
If you work, you should get a vacation. But dubya has spent more time on vacation than any other president. Look it up. Also, the AP is pretty fair when it comes to their polling. They go way out of their way to have balance in their surveys. It's not like this is a MoveOn.org poll.

Guy,

Why should he care? Tell that to the parents of the 1,800 dead solders and Marines. Tell that to all the folks who have had their jobs outsourced to some third world country. Tell that to the folks who put him in the big chair. Just because you're a lame duck doesn't mean you don't have to sit in the nest.

Damn Straight Chip! I'm glad somebody got the point! Thanks!

Why should he care? Tell that to the parents of the 1,800 dead solders and Marines. Tell that to all the folks who have had their jobs outsourced to some third world country.

What you fail to understand, perhaps due to your youth, is that most presidents do not govern by polls.  Clinton did.  Great presidents govern on what they feel is best for the country, and at times that may run counter to popular feelings. Note the feelings.

Note: I am not calling Bush Great.

And finally, no Nixon did not.  He resigned rather than drag the office of the presidency through an impeachment trial. Something another president was too small a person to do.

The Nixon comment was a joke, and i agree with you.

It's true that a president should not govern by polls. That's one thing that bugged me about bubba. The glaring point is how far and how fast he has fallen, and his seemingly "devil-may-care" attitude.

There's a war going on, as you righties like pointing out. I think that he should be at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave when Marines are getting killed by the dozen, and not mountainbiking around the Texas hill country.

I think that he should be at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave when Marines are getting killed by the dozen, and not mountainbiking around the Texas hill country.

But you yourself observed that being away from home for so long drains one's (apostrophe for Furry Canary's benefit) batteries.  Everyone needs to get recharged so they can do their job better.  Hell, I loved it when Clinton went on vacation.

You're right. But how big are this guy's batteries? I wish i made $200,000 a year and could hang out at the house as much as he does... ::

yes sliding % points,
How does this happen?
the elite media pounding away on him 24/7? naw to easy

The left powerless wing beating up on everything he does? naw to easy

The entire left wing obstructing everything he asks for? naw to easy.

How come everybody but the Doc is trying to blame his performance on the lefties?

C'mon Mod, i know you are definately a bush supporter, but he's dropping the ball. Also, if the left wing is powerless, how can you say they're so effective?

How come everybody but the Doc is trying to blame his performance on the lefties?

Oh, did I forget that? Sorry.

It is all the Loony Loopy luddite liberals fault!

That's better! ::

Good to hear from you Mod!

If you work, you should get a vacation. But dubya has spent more time on vacation than any other president. Look it up. Also, the AP is pretty fair when it comes to their polling. They go way out of their way to have balance in their surveys. It's not like this is a MoveOn.org poll.

You just totally ignored what I said. Presidents don't take real vacations like other people. No matter where or what the President is doing he is still on the job. Even when he's at his ranch, he still has his meetings, briefings, and gets work done. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. However, the left still has no agenda or ideas so this is what they choose to complain about.

I have looked at the AP and they are one of most biased new organizations. I can't find the articles but I remember before Bush was re-elected there were people from the MSM who were doing just what I said. They would poll more democrats just to get the percentage they were looking for. But as I constantly tell people like col, polls are unreliable. Most polls said Kerry was going to beat Bush. A poll of 1000 Americans does not accurately represent the country.

There have been previous presidents with lower scores (Nixon and Truman during their last terms for example).

You do know that while Truman was in office his rating was very low, but now he is placed seventh as the best President. Link

All the great presidents are the ones who made the hard decisions. Lincoln also had low approval rating, and he is rated third.

The question will be if the Democrats will be able to produce a good candidate in 2008. Many Republicans that I know would love to see another Kerry choice. IMO Governor Richardson of Arizona would be a good candidate. But who ever the Republicans run will not be stuck with Bush's legacy because of the following reasons:

1. The VP will not be running, so the Gore/Clinton stigma will not be there.

2. While the wars in Iraq maybe unpopular, all indications show that the general public knows that it is something that must be completed. So any pro-war Republican will not be dinged for supporting actions there.

IMO it will be the great race for the center in the 2008 election and if one of the parties decides not to run for the center it will lose.

The radical left has finally started to be ignored by the middle, but unfortunately they did gain many of the key funding positions in the DNC. We will have to see if that will affect the primaries.

As for the Republicans I believe the front runners at this time are more moderate, but that may not help much if there is no clear primary leader by the time that the religious South gets their chance to vote. That will determine if Bush's legacy will hurt the next candidate, if he/she is a person of socially religious politics.

But as for rating affecting Bush..... Who cares? He will just be as dead politically as Clinton is now, in three years.

Minor correction, Lee -

Bill Richardson is governor of New Mexico. We have a socialist governor here - Napolitano.

Cheers,
Daiwa

Bill Richardson is governor of New Mexico. We have a socialist governor here - Napolitano.

Sorry to here about the socialist Daiwa and I had remembered my mistake half-way to a friends house, Ooops.

1. The VP will not be running, so the Gore/Clinton stigma will not be there

consider the following:

1. cheney said he wasn't gonna run for vp in 2000. he was put in charge of selecting a vp candidate. after reviewing all the options, guess what? none seemed like a better choice than himself.

2. after seeing how the momentum of the reagan administration quickly became the entropy of the first bush term, aren't yall a lil concerned about jeb's ability to keep things movin in the right direction? he's too much like his ol man. who else can you depend on not to be swayed off course? besides cheney.

3. isn't cheney's choice for the 2008 candidate gonna be given a lotta weight?

4.i know he's on record as saying he won't run. as judge milian says, i wouldn't believe him if his tongue was notarized.

2. While the wars in Iraq maybe unpopular, all indications show that the general public knows that it is something that must be completed. So any pro-war Republican will not be dinged for supporting actions there.

yeah we gotta complete it. but that don't mean the public hasnt finally begun to see it never had to happen the way it did. an anti-war longshot iraq war veteran. running as a democrat in an ohio district that went 2 to 1 for bush in 2004, lost by 4% in a special election this week. the guy referred to bush as a 'chicken hawk' in his campaign. pro-war republicans may wind up gettin the hard ding they so richly deserve.

When you have had the job for five years, and have spent about one year of it on vacation...Well yeah i think it's worth mention.

I love how some of you can only make an issue out of the vacation thing, when I only mentioned it in passing. The meat of the issue is the poll numbers. You folks are all about the poll numbers when things are going good for dubya. When his numbers flag, all of a sudden they mean bupkis. Others say, "It's biased, the evil left wing media is cooking the numbers!" Or, "The AP is controlled by the Liberals". What a load. I'll bet if Fox News conducted a poll they would show similar numbers. The guy is not living up to his own hype folks. Face it. It's like that scene in the Wizard of Oz when the curtain gets pulled back. The American public is beginning to see through the smoke and mirrors.

And they ain't happy with what they are seeing.

consider the following: 1. cheney said he wasn't gonna run for vp in 2000. he was put in charge of selecting a vp candidate. after reviewing all the options, guess what? none seemed like a better choice than himself. 2. after seeing how the momentum of the reagan administration quickly became the entropy of the first bush term, aren't yall a lil concerned about jeb's ability to keep things movin in the right direction? he's too much like his ol man. who else can you depend on not to be swayed off course? besides cheney. 3. isn't cheney's choice for the 2008 candidate gonna be given a lotta weight? 4.i know he's on record as saying he won't run. as judge milian says, i wouldn't believe him if his tongue was notarized.

There is a bonus if Cheney runs.  Helen Thomas will die!

Helen Thomas will die!

if novak doesnt get the chief justice seat, maybe he can be nominated to fill her ummmmmm shoes?

Helen could kick Dick's ass in a bar room brawl. Or she could just disrobe and give him another heart attack. Either way...She could take him!

if novak doesnt get the chief justice seat, maybe he can be nominated to fill her ummmmmm shoes?