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Yes, so the argument goes.  Some do not believe that a fetus (zygote/embryo) is a person.  Some do not.

In the end, this is not about those difference.  this is about LIFE.

Ok, so how many of you would sacrafice your child to prolong your life?

Show of hands please.

Ok, so how many of you would sacrafice my child's life to prolong your life?

Show of hands again.

So who wants my body?

That is what we are talking about.  I will not debate whether you are right or I am.  for to me, that is what you are asking.  Take my life.

I would much prefer mine to an innocent childs.

Would not you?

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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top

Wow, Dabe....why don't you tell us how you really feel?!

Having said that, I can agree with your thoughts about imposing your will on someone else. I just wouldn't have put it so..bluntly, I guess.

DG, let me ask you this: are you in favor of the death penalty? Can you draw a paralell between the death penalty and abortion? After all, they're both killing, right?

I am disappointed that you have failed to read both my responses and reasons, and past blogs.  I expected better of you.

Dabe is a just a whore.  I have stated and continue to state my positiong unequivolically.  Do you want then to deny me the morallity of my position becuase you just dont want to argue the basic point?

I said it befoer and I guess I have to again. I AM NOT GOING TO BEAT ANY OF YOU INTO SUBMISSION.  I HOPE YOU WILL EVENTUALLY COME TO BELIEVE AS I DO, BUT I AM NOT GOING TO IMPOSE MY BELIEFS.  SO WHY DO YOU TRY TO IMPOSE YOURS.

is that loud enough?  is that clear enough? Excuse me Dharma, please tell your children to leave the room.  Adult rant coming.

 

WHAT THE FUCK MAKES YOU SO FUCKING SUPERIOR TO ME?  IF YOU CANNOT RESPECT MY BELIEFS EVEN AS I RESPECT YOURS. THEN GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY FACE.

Rant off. 

Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top

Your comparing apples and oranges there D. Why the death penalty? Because the person in question did something so horrific that a jury deemed that he/she should die in reparation for the crime. What crime did the unborn commit?

And also way off topic.  Dharma, my position is clear.  If you have not guessed it by now (by reading the kings english), dont throw it in my face until you do your homework.

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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top

...and I understand that, but they're still legalized killing.

Dharma, I only have to say, RTFM.  Or in this milleiu, my blog.

Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top

Your comparing apples and oranges there D. Why the death penalty? Because the person in question did something so horrific that a jury deemed that he/she should die in reparation for the crime. What crime did the unborn commit?

yes, apples and oranges, but the end result is pears.  Both are dead, and that has nothing to do with the arguement.

the apple and orange here is since the baby cannot complain, then no one cares.  But the convicted killer can complain, so we must care.

That is the apples and oranges, and it is wrong.

period.  Enough of that.  Thanks Doc.

Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top

One of the biggest problems with the death penalty is that mistakes are made.

Whoa!  Great response!  So what mistake did the child make that was aborted?  What one?  tell us oh wise one

Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top
And also way off topic. Dharma, my position is clear. If you have not guessed it by now (by reading the kings english), dont throw it in my face until you do your homework.


Whoa....what the heck is that all about? Where did I disrespect your position? And what exactly am I throwing in your face? Jeez, all I did was ask a question.....and I did apologize for hijacking your thread.

I dunno what I did to piss you off so bad, DG, but whatever it was, I apologize. Damn.....
Reply #32 from JoeUser Forums Top
" One of the biggest problems with the death penalty is that mistakes are made."
- Dabe

Hold on....what about abortion? How many women have had an abortion, only to regret it later, and call it a mistake? I have known quite a few....

Dabe....I have a question for you:

Do you wish you were aborted? Because if you do not, then how presumptious you must be to believe that other babies would want to be aborted....
Reply #33 from JoeUser Forums Top
"Do you wish you were aborted? Because if you do not, then how presumptious you must be to believe that other babies would want to be aborted...."

Yet another moronic and specious argument. As if zygotes could wish, one way or the other.......
Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top
i was asking my question in reference to your statement about abortion, Dabe....keep up. And, you still did not answer my question.
Reply #35 from JoeUser Forums Top
"And, you still did not answer my question."

Yes, I did. Extrapolate. You already know the answer. And, again, it's a specious argument.
Reply #36 from JoeUser Forums Top
I get what you're saying DrGuy. To you an embryo is a baby no matter what people want to call it and deserves the right to live. And I respect that.
Unfortunately, there are people out there who, depending on their situtation (finance, health physical or mental, lifestyle, stupidity, whatever) cannot bring a child to the world, and granted some of them should have thought about it b4 conciving...
It's not an easy subject. I pray to God I'm never confronted with this dilemma one day.
Reply #37 from PolMach Forums Top
If more effort is put into abstinence, protection, and etc... then abortion could be eliminated as an option...but thats wishful thinking considering the average human intellegence (no offense intended...to anyone)
Reply #38 from JoeUser Forums Top
"No, I'll avoid this slippery slope too, and I'm glad Bush is in office representing the majority view on this...my view, and the views of those who set him in office."

Actually, dubya is not representing the majority view, from what I've been reading. That's why Congress passed a law, which dubya will likely veto, and which Congress will likely override. I've heard that upwards of 80% of the population supports stem cell research, but maybe the majority you're referring to here is only here, at ju, which is no surprise whatsoever. I'll go look for links and cites for this.

As for avoiding slippery slopes, well that's tantamount to sticking your head in the sand. Life is full of slippery slopes and decisions to be made, and research to be funded. Progress does not come to a screeching halt because some people are afraid of "slippery slopes".

Slippery slopes to me is more akin to dictating what color house is acceptable, what kind of education is acceptable, and what religion from which to dictate all of the above, at the government level. Those are slippery slopes.
Reply #39 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: dharmagrl

I appologize for the harshness and tone of my response.  I was not upset with you, but with people who kno no civil discourse, just who like to crap on other's blogs.

Reply #40 from JoeUser Forums Top

Sorry you can't see the connection. It must be very hard for you being so slowwwwwwwww on the uptake.

And apparently you are too stupid to stay on topic in a thread.  I dont see any politicians mentioned here.  This is not about your precious dick wad clinton, so get off if you cant stay on topic.

Reply #41 from JoeUser Forums Top

Lets see what ya look like

Sorry .. just couldnt resisit.

Thanks for the chuckle PB! The tone was getting hot.

Reply #42 from JoeUser Forums Top

All i can say is that due to past incidents,i am a pro life person....

I think most are pro life.  But the definition of life is the sticking point.

Reply #43 from JoeUser Forums Top

Do you wish you were aborted? Because if you do not, then how presumptious you must be to believe that other babies would want to be aborted....

She is god, so what she says goes. The Bible according to Idiots, err Dabe.

Reply #44 from JoeUser Forums Top

Yet another moronic and specious argument. As if zygotes could wish, one way or the other.......

And who made you fucking God?  HOw do you know what they feel or think when the greatrest scientists in the World dont know?  You are the only arguement I have seen for Abortion.  A shame your mother did not believe in it.

Reply #45 from JoeUser Forums Top

i was asking my question in reference to your statement about abortion, Dabe....keep up. And, you still did not answer my question.

She cant, she is not smart enough to have a coherant thought.

Reply #46 from JoeUser Forums Top

Yes, I did. Extrapolate. You already know the answer. And, again, it's a specious argument

No you did not.  So either answer it, or STFU.

Reply #47 from JoeUser Forums Top

It's not an easy subject. I pray to God I'm never confronted with this dilemma one day.

No it is not an easy subject, and I pray you never have to choose.  My point is some will have an abortion, and to them it will not be murder because they do not believe the fetus/zygote/embryo is a living human being.  And I can respect those people.  What I cannot respect are those who do believe it is a living human being, and still support it.

And I also am not here to convert anyone to my point of view.  I was only asking that you respect mine, and if you do, then you will know that I can never support an abortion.

Reply #48 from JoeUser Forums Top

If more effort is put into abstinence, protection, and etc... then abortion could be eliminated as an option...but thats wishful thinking considering the average human intellegence (no offense intended...to anyone)

I was going to disagree with you until your conditional, so I am in full agreement with you on that one.

Reply #49 from JoeUser Forums Top

To me, the belief that life begins at conception has no religious connotations at all, so I do get annoyed when the opposing camp accuses me of trying to "shove my religion" down their throats.

Very true.  While my belief stems from my religion, it is not based upon it.  I went the route you did, and finally had to conclude that there is no magical date when life begins, and before that is nothing, except at the time of conception.  For that is when the biggest change occurs.  Eggs dont divide by themselves, they need the interaction of the sperm.  And at that point, something wonderful occurs.

But that was not the purpose here.  I meant not to convince anyone.  I just want them to stop telling me I am stupid for not condoning the killing of innocents.

Reply #50 from JoeUser Forums Top

Slippery slopes to me is more akin to dictating what color house is acceptable, what kind of education is acceptable, and what religion from which to dictate all of the above, at the government level. Those are slippery slopes.

All of which you yourself advocate with your blind obedience to a failed philosophy.  You cannot tolerate dissent and must attack it and belittle it at every opportunity since you cannot argue against it. Pathetic.