Hatred for America in the Muslem World!

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Over the last several weeks, the level of demonstrations directed against the United States throughout the Muslim world has increased. We have seen tens of thousands demonstrate against us in Indonesian, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq and Pakistan. In the past, we have seen schools in the Muslem world preaching anti-American sentiment.

The incident with Laura Bush on Sunday should make it crystal clear to almost anyone how fundamental the hatred is in the Muslim world toward the United States. Mrs. Bush is quoted as saying “As we all know, this is a place of very high tensions and high emotions”. Why the Bush administration thought they could improve the atmosphere in the Muslim world by sending Laura Bush into that area demonstrates their refusal to accept the fact that we are hated by millions of Muslims and they just want us to leave them alone. We are fortunate that Mrs. Bush’s visit did not result in a much more difficult incident. Her visit has capped several weeks of demonstrations that show the depth and breadth of the hatred felt by Muslims toward Americans. I know there are some who will claim that the little children come up to our military in Iraq and I am sure there are Muslems who accept Americans. That does not change the fact that millions hold pure hatred toward Americans. The administration should read the book, “Imperial Hubris” by the former CIA bin Laden section chief to get a better idea of what these people really think of Americans and WHY they hate us so much! . We have a much more dangerous problem with Muslem hatred then most Americans understand!
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Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
That is the hope of many people. However history has documented that has not happen in the past. We must try NOT to allow the conflict between the 1.2 Billion Muslems and the Christians/Jews to begin the war of "20 and 7 years" that Nostradamus predicted would begin in the Middle East. That will require restraint by both the United States and Israel.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
All this war means minorities are simmply kept out of being people for their own reasons. War is homophobic and racist. SICK!
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
Gene, what you and your mindlessly anti-war, Bush-bashing cronies just don't get is that those millions of Moslems are very often ruled by governments and theocracies that have agendas that run opposite to ours, and use their instruments of propaganda to spew anti-American rhetoric. That's the way it was in Iraq under Saddam, right?
According to everything I've heard FROM PEOPLE WHO, UNLIKE YOU, HAVE DONE MORE THAN READ BOOKS AND ANTI-WAR BLOGS, THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN THERE, the Iraqi people themselves are, for the most part, relatively pleased with the situation and how it's progressing. It the insurgents from those anti-American countries that are causing the problems.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
It the insurgents from those anti-American countries that are causing the problems.


--Don't forgot the moronic media...they seriously need to get there facts right...
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Nostradamus? Now you're using soothsayers? OH MY GOD, Gene! What is wrong with you? What's next? Tea leaves? Paying twenty and seven bucks to the gypsy psychic in the storefront down the street? Rolling chicken bones across the floor?
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
All this war means minorities are simmply kept out of being people for their own reasons. War is homophobic and racist. SICK!


What? Is this one of LW's MadLibs rants?
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
--Don't forgot the moronic media...they seriously need to get there facts right...


True. So true.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
What?



The biggest victims of wars are not soldiers but innocent minorities in poor countries. They cannot be attacked because they are HUMAN BEANS.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
They cannot be attacked because they are HUMAN BEANS.


--Human Beans or, Human Beings
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Rightwinger

How you can ignore the magnitude of the destruction in many parts of the world that result from the unrest and discontent of the Muslim is hard to believe. I don't know how many idiots like the fanatical right there are in this country but I would hope that the vast majority recognize the truth when they see it. We have a significant danger facing the United States, Israel, and the greater Western democracies from the hatred that exists in the minds of millions of Muslims throughout the world. It is not Just a few leaders that hate us. There are millions that feel this way. Every time we do something like having Laura Bush entered the Dome of the Rock , we throw another bucket full of gasoline on the fire that is raging throughout the Muslem world. The book I referenced in was written by a man who spent his whole life studying the Muslim world and who this country intrusted with running the bin Laden section at the CIA.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Human Beans or, Human Beings



Say what you will but innocent minorities have DIED because of wars. I live in the Gaza Strip and I have seen enough homophobia and racism to laugh me five lifetimes!

SICK!
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
Nostradamus was just a bit more than a soothsayer. this man predicted the formation of the United States, as well as the second world war. He spelled the name of Hitler with only one letter incorrect (Hister). he foretold the formation of the French Republic 15 years after the formation of the United States. Better go back and look at your history many of the predictions of Nostradamus have become true. lets hope his prediction of a war that he said would last 27 years and destroy most of the world is incorrect.He said it would start in the Middle East t by a leader wearing a "Blue turban" which he called a third antichrist.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
Most of the deaths in the Iraq War were civilians! I have read estimates of 30,000 to 100,000 dead. Who knows how many have died since we invaded Iraq.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
He spelled the name of Hitler with only one letter incorrect (Hister).



He was pretty SICK if he did that. Thinking up Hitler before Hitler even existed! Who is to say didn't read his work and decide to do the SICK things he did because he wastold to by his book.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
yep gene all this hatred and protest against america based on lies, lies spread by mean spirited hate filled people like you and the far left and elite media,
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
many of the predictions of Nostradamus have become true


And just as many have NOT come true!
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
The incident with Laura Bush on Sunday should make it crystal clear to almost anyone how fundamental the hatred is in the Muslim world toward the United States.


Forty people yelling at Mrs. Bush. What a turnout.


That does not change the fact that millions hold pure hatred toward Americans. The administration should read the book, “Imperial Hubris” by the former CIA bin Laden section chief to get a better idea of what these people really think of Americans and WHY they hate us so much! . We have a much more dangerous problem with Muslem hatred then most Americans understand!


As usual you put no thought into your post, I guess it was time for an anti-American rant.

These "millions" of muslims have hated the U.S. for decades. Remember when the bombed the WTC the first time, or when they killed our soldiers in Saudi Arabia? Their hatred for us is based on their fanatical religion. I can show you studies and reports where the so-called "hatred" is caused by lack of freedom and democracy in the Middle East, not by the reasons you keep quoting.

Col why do yo ignore the numberous reports of Iraqis helping the U.S., thanking the U.S., and helping their fellow Iraqis build a stable democracy? You are just as bad as the arab "media" who spread this same kind of hatred.

Remember col, islam is the problem, not the U.S.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
That is true. That is why I hope his 27 year war in one that will NOT come true! So far as the genesis of the hatred in the Middle East it began a long time ago. When Pope Leo sent the Christian armies to liberate Palestine and kill tens of thousands of Muslims the hatred between Muslims and Christians was spawned. Our invasion of Iraq and our presence in the Middle East in flames the radical Muslem factions and enables them to garner the support of many moderate Muslems. When we allow Israel to build settlements and walls into the Palestinian territories we add to the hatred. We need to take a honest look at why so many millions hate us and why so many Musloms are willing to destroy themselves just so they can kill Christians or Jews.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Our invasion of Iraq and our presence in the Middle East in flames the radical Muslem factions and enables them to garner the support of many moderate Muslems. When we allow Israel to build settlements and walls into the Palestinian territories we add to the hatred. We need to take a honest look at why so many millions hate us and why people why so many are willing to destroy themselves just so they can kill Christians or Jews.


That's exactly what you don't do. We know why muslims hate us, it's their religion that preaches hate. It's their opression of their own people that doesn't help. America and Israel are used as scapegoats in the so-called media in the Middle East. People like you are so worried about offending people that it gets in your way of clear thought.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
I know all about Nostradamus, Gene....he had thousands of predictions, most of which did not come true. I once read that his accuracy ratio, to that date, was something like one or two in a hundred or so.
There was also supposed to have been a blue-turbaned Moslem leader in a cloak to take command of the entire Moslem world by 1990, and a full-scale nuclear war in 2000. No blue turbans, no mushroom clouds. Unless you want to count the clouds the Lefties see drifting by when they eat mushrooms.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Island Dog

You don't know what we're talking about. When I attended the Army War College I have the benefit of discussing that part of the world with people like the gentleman who negotiated the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel. The issues that face us in the mid-80s in the Middle East are very similarv to the issues that face us today. Muslims do not separate their religious beliefs from their secular life the way the Western world does. They believe that the actions of the United States and Israel are anti-Muslem and as a Muslems and they have a responsibility in their own way to fight anyone who they believe is anti-Muslem. They look at our presence in the Middle East as anti-Muslim and a look at the occupation by Israel of the West Bank and Gaza as well as the Jewish settlements and the wall as actions against Muslims. You would do well to read about the real root causes of why millions of Muslims hate Americas and Jews. We cannot deal with something if we don't understand it. Things like invading Iraq , The visits of Ariel Sharon and Laura Bush to the Dome of the Rock and our support of Israel when they occupy the West bank and build settlements in violation of international law just makes the situation worse.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
When something kills minorities we know that we have to stop it in it's track even if these means losing out on other things. War is SICK!
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
Okay COL, you have all the warnings and alarms, set off with caps and exclamation points, but no answers. What do you propose we do, since you're so well-informed as to why Moslems hate us and root causes and all that? What do we do about it? Just pull out and leave them alone? What would that do? Just cause more hatred for us because we left them without finishing what we started.
One of the reasons they hate us is because we have different Gods (which I'll never fully understand, because both Moslems and Jews claim common ancestry in Abraham, who of course worshipped the Hebrew God) and different cultures.
We're just a tad more accepting of differences in people than they are, don't you think? They want everyone to be like them....we couldn't care less.
Even if we left them alone, do you really think they would be content to just co-exist with us? I doubt it.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
Okay COL, you have all the warnings and alarms, set off with caps and exclamation points, but no answers. What do you propose we do, since you're so well-informed as to why Moslems hate us and root causes and all that? What do we do about it? Just pull out and leave them alone? What would that do? Just cause more hatred for us because we left them without finishing what we started.
One of the reasons they hate us is because we have different Gods (which I'll never fully understand, because both Moslems and Jews claim common ancestry in Abraham, who of course worshipped the Hebrew God) and different cultures.
We're just a tad more accepting of differences in people than they are, don't you think? They want everyone to be like them....we couldn't care less.
Even if we left them alone, do you really think they would be content to just co-exist with us? I doubt it. Islam has been referred to, by your precious scholars, as an imperialistic religion, after all.