You are correct. If Congress passes laws that implement the policies Bush supports, the day will dawn when everyone will clearly see how badely they have impacted America and correcting the effects will be a lot more painful for all. That will be the results of George W. Bush as President.

I think you'll be waiting a long time for "Everyone will clearly see how 'badely' they have impatcted America.."

From my vantage point the past 4 years can be summed up with:

1) Economy has been improving.

2) My taxes are slightly lower

3) America's most vocal and dangerous enemy has been toppled.

4) Those who attacked America have had their base of operations destroyed and are hanging out in caves and no new attacks have occurred.

 

The economy has not improved for low and middle income Americans

The tax cuys average about $425/year about $1.25 per day

Who is America's most dangerous enemy? The person responsible for 9/11 ia still at large

The deficit is off the scale

Trade deficitr is off the scale

Energy cost are up

I'm a low income American, and my situation has improved. I am able to save more money per year now than when Clinton was in office, and the income itself hasn't changed.

Maybe a hobby, Col.? Ships in bottles? Maybe you are "filling a vacuum" with this irrational need to undermine our government.

Who is America's most dangerous enemy? The person responsible for 9/11 ia still at large

Is he as potent and not in a cave as he was when the Taliban was at full power? I think Draginol meant Saddam Hussein, but even bin Laden has been toppled. I just don't think he can be considered as potent as he was when he wasn't hiding in caves.

Saddam was not a danger to the U S. North Korea and Iran and much more dangerous than Iraq.

BakerStreet

If you are low income, you did not receive much from the tax cuts. The higher energy and health cost and the increase in the inflation have not helped many low income people in America. I do not know what Bush has done that could have improved you life but I am glad you are doing well

The economy has not improved for low and middle income Americans The tax cuys average about $425/year about $1.25 per day Who is America's most dangerous enemy? The person responsible for 9/11 ia still at large The deficit is off the scale Trade deficitr is off the scale Energy cost are up

Based on what do you say that the economy is not up for low and middle income Americans? The unemployment rate in November, 2001 (just after 9/11) was 5.6.  It was 5.4 last month.

Hourly earnings have continued to go up:

So I have to ask - on what basis do you form your opinions? Do you have any facts to back up your opinions at all?

The deficit and trade deficit are very interesting statistics but do not affect Americans. We have run trade deficits for nearly my entire life (about 30 years).   We can debate whether they may affect Americans in the future (at which point the deficit as a % of GDP becomes the meaningful statistic).  In fact, 2004's deficit was a measely 3.6% of the Gross domestic product.  Compare that to the 6% deficit during the Reagan years or the 7.2% that occurred on Truman's watch.

As the house budget (house.gov) points out: http://www.budget.house.gov/lgstdeficits030905.pdf last year's "record" deficit doesn't even make it into the top 10 budget deficits for all time. Which is pretty remarkable considering that we're at war.

As for energy prices:

Gas prices are pretty stable when adjusted for inflation.  Using raw numbers is meaningless. Costs go up over time due to inflation. That's why we have to pay $7 to go to the movie instead of a nickel.

I mean, you say all these things but you show that you really don't know what the heck you're talking about. 

Economy better?
People better off?

For whom?

Ask the growing number of the unemployed and the low-level employed who do not have health insurance.

When dubya is finished with his medicare and medicaid cuts, ask the elderly who got duped into a bogus prescription plan.

Ask the soldiers who do make it back from Iraq missing arms, legs and eyesight.

Ask the Iraqi children who we just killed for their stinking oil.

Ask the children who are dealing with the underfunded NCLB.

Ask the farmers who are getting their farm subsidies cut.

Ask the families who cannot get out from debts due to catastrophic illnesses because the banks drew up the laws that protect their record profits from this poor souls.

Ask the National Park Service employees or the Fish & Wildlife employees, or BLM who are watching dubya sell of mineral rights to the highest bidders while our national treasures and special places are rotting from abuse.

Ask the urban families who are suffering from increasing cases of asthma because dubya gave away their rights to clean air and water.

I guess the only people who count are the small business owners and the megacorporations who get to send their investments overseas and shield their money from US taxes. They're laughing all the way to the bank. Or, did you forget that trickle down economics is a proven failure and a scam, wherein the only tricling beneficiaries are the top wage earners? Oh yeah. You forgot. DOH!!!!

Col Gene, I am getting quite sick of you bashing Bush when you talk about ANYTHING. If you want to point out problems, go ahead. If you want to provide solutions, all the better. But don't bash Bush in the process. Cause I've got a news flash for you: not everything that happens during a presidency is the president's fault. It is possible that some events have not been caused by him, his policies, or anything he ever did in his life.

P.S. I know your blog is "Bush Truth," but the beauty of this place is there is not a limit on what you can write. I came here to write politics, but I haven't done that for at least 2 months. You can go above and beyond your intent.

The economy has not improved for low and middle income Americans

Lie! Maybe for you it hasn't but do not even attempt to speak for everyone! Because mine definetly has.

I do not know what Bush has done that could have improved you life

That's right, you don't know. And why is that? Because your Bush bashing gets in the way of seeing it.
Have you noticed that I'm not the only one seeing it?

Lie! Maybe for you it hasn't but do not even attempt to speak for everyone! Because mine definetly has.

I'm so happy for you, drimiler. But, since when do you represent the 50 million people without health insurance and/or jobs? You don't. You don't represent anyone. You keep espousing how much others' opinions are meaningless, like you're the only person allowed to have one. Well, you know what they say about opinions? They're like assholes, cuz everyone's got one. EVERYONE. So, get over yourself.

Lie! Maybe for you it hasn't but do not even attempt to speak for everyone! Because mine definetly has. I'm so happy for you, drimiler. But, since when do you represent the 50 million people without health insurance and/or jobs? You don't. You don't represent anyone. You keep espousing how much others' opinions are meaningless, like you're the only person allowed to have one. Well, you know what they say about opinions? They're like assholes, cuz everyone's got one. EVERYONE. So, get over yourself.

YOU need to get over yourself and quit talking out of yours cause it stinks. NOWHERE did I say I represented everyone or even the majority now did I?

A Gallup poll shows only 45% support of Bush. A second poll by CBS News found support for Bush dropped to 43%. These two polls confirm many other polls on specific subjects which clearly indicate that many of the president's policies are not what the American people want. When is Bush going to change his policies to more closely meet the wishes of the people in this country? Where is the democracy Mr. Bush says is so important?

Well a Times poll shows differently.

Time Poll conducted by Schulman, Ronca & Bucuvalas (SRBI) Public Affairs. March 22-24, 2005. N=1,010 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3. . "In general, do you approve or disapprove of the way President Bush is handling his job as president?" . Approve Disapprove Unsure 3/22-24/05 48% 46% 6%

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This should show how unreliable polls are.

About 70% do not agree with private accounts for Social security. The same percent did not agree with Bush and his action in the Schiavo case. Look at the stock market and energy prices. Over 85% feel Bush is not protecting our borders. The fact is that the solutions Bush is providing are not solviong the nations problems and the majority do not think Bush is doing a good job. I point out the results of the policies wer are following. For those that believe that I am Bush bashing I would suggest you consider who is proposing the policies and why are they producing negative results. One blog claims that a $600 Billion annual Trade deficit does not impact Americans. That is not what every expert says. The loss of entire industries like electronics and clothing are examples. The deficit and the interest we will all be required to pay will impact us. The 12 million people that came across our borders while the Fed does nothing and Bush does not even ask for the money to secure our border are real issues that impact America. The problem is not with my pointing out the facts but the facts that result from the policies we are following are negative. That is due to George W. Bush.

Most Americans agree and do not support Bush and his ideas. If the election were held today, he would not win.

Actually, most Americans do support him and his ideas. That's why he was re-elected. You can quote a poll of a few thousands people. I will go the November one that millions did. I have no doubt Bush would win by even a bigger margin if the election were held today. Don't you get why your party is such ruins? It's because of people like you. I really don't know what the democrats are going to do in '08. Since they can't run on the "I hate Bush" platform, they might actually have to stop complaining about everything, and come up with their own ideas.

Economy better? People better off? For whom? Ask the growing number of the unemployed and the low-level employed who do not have health insurance. When dubya is finished with his medicare and medicaid cuts, ask the elderly who got duped into a bogus prescription plan. Ask the soldiers who do make it back from Iraq missing arms, legs and eyesight. Ask the Iraqi children who we just killed for their stinking oil. Ask the children who are dealing with the underfunded NCLB. Ask the farmers who are getting their farm subsidies cut. Ask the families who cannot get out from debts due to catastrophic illnesses because the banks drew up the laws that protect their record profits from this poor souls. Ask the National Park Service employees or the Fish & Wildlife employees, or BLM who are watching dubya sell of mineral rights to the highest bidders while our national treasures and special places are rotting from abuse. Ask the urban families who are suffering from increasing cases of asthma because dubya gave away their rights to clean air and water

This is a post I would expect to see at the DU. So full of bs it's almost funny. Full of conspiracies and oil nonsense. Get over it.

About 70% do not agree with private accounts for Social security. The same percent did not agree with Bush and his action in the Schiavo case. Look at the stock market and energy prices. Over 85% feel Bush is not protecting our borders. The fact is that the solutions Bush is providing are not solviong the nations problems and the majority do not think Bush is doing a good job. I point out the results of the policies wer are following. For those that believe that I am Bush bashing I would suggest you consider who is proposing the policies and why are they producing negative results. One blog claims that a $600 Billion annual Trade deficit does not impact Americans. That is not what every expert says. The loss of entire industries like electronics and clothing are examples. The deficit and the interest we will all be required to pay will impact us. The 12 million people that came across our borders while the Fed does nothing and Bush does not even ask for the money to secure our border are real issues that impact America. The problem is not with my pointing out the facts but the facts that result from the policies we are following are negative. That is due to George W. Bush.

While I would agree that Bush isn't doing enough on border security, doesn't make the democratic alternative better. If you believe Kerry would have sealed the border and dispatched the National Guard to patrol the borders, then you were probably misguided enough to actually have voted for Kerry.

Every other post from you I hear you claim Bush isn't doing what "America wants". That's about as false as the conspiracies that people like dabe and the other DUmmies believe in. You have to remember, we are not a socialist country, we don't want socialist healthcare plans, and America does not want a weak military. You can argue and complain about Bush all you want, but the fact is, I'd rather have Bush who is wrong on some things, rather than the democrats who are wrong about everything.

See what has resulted in ten years from the policies we are following and all you Bush supporters will be looking for cover! The majority want Jobs, fair trade policies, a country without the large interest payments, a Social Security system that is solvent for us and our children, homeland security including border security and the ability to afford health care for the working and retired Americans. None of these will result from the Bush policies. This will be a country where there will be a few more rich, a lot more poor with a very much smaller middle class.

See what has resulted in ten years from the policies we are following and all you Bush supporters will be looking for cover! The majority want Jobs, fair trade policies, a country without the large interest payments, a Social Security system that is solvent for us and our children, homeland security including border security and the ability to afford health care for the working and retired Americans. None of these will result from the Bush policies. In the future, this will be a country where there will be a few more rich, a lot more poor with a very much smaller middle class.

Over 85% feel Bush is not protecting our borders

See, this sentence sums up you and Dave, Col Gene.  It's not about facts. It's not about reality. It's about how you FEEL.  It's always about the poll, the gut feeling, the emotion.

You and Dabe give these impassioned, content-free essays on how bad things are. But there's nothing substantial in them. 

Someone states a fact: "Unemployment has been going down."

Then someone like you or dabe shows up and says "Tell that to the unemployed factory worker whose job has been outsourced to Mexico!"

That's a meaningless statement. You will always have someone who has suffered no matter what.

You guys don't care about facts or realities. It's about emotional satisfaction. A kind of ideological narcisism.

For instance, Col Gene, you have stated that the congressional budget office has stated that the tax cuts caused the deficit.  I asked you to provide a source. You "couldn't find it".  So I looked myself and guess what I found:

Title: "Tax cuts did not cause the deficits"

http://www.budget.house.gov/nottaxcuts030905.pdf

The CBO data not only does not say what you claimed it said but it actually states the opposite to the point that the HBC made a chart entiutled "The tax cuts did not cause the deficit"

Emotion is not fact.

For instance, Col Gene, you have stated that the congressional budget office has stated that the tax cuts caused the deficit. I asked you to provide a source. You "couldn't find it". So I looked myself and guess what I found: Title: "Tax cuts did not cause the deficits" Link The CBO data not only does not say what you claimed it said but it actually states the opposite to the point that the HBC made a chart entiutled "The tax cuts did not cause the deficit" Emotion is not fact.

Hey COL...so now that you've been "shown" to be WRONG are you going to change your tune? Or are you going to stick to the same old BS? BTW drag's link goes *directly* to a CBO chart. Someone who you "love" to quote.

I'm still banging my head against the wall trying to figure out the point of this. Are you trying to rub it in, make yourself feel better because you lost? Hope that this propaganda sticks on the next, most likely non-Bush adminstration Republican candidate?

This, to me, is like trying to lord over people saying "Sure, your team won the Superbowl, but polls show that people don't like them much". So what?

Col, you claim that you are a Republican. I have to take you at your word for that, because I have yet to see anything much other than Democratic propaganda. Given your stated political affiliation, do you realize that what you are really doing is working to defeat the next Republican candidate, someone you might actually agree with?

Keep yapping, keep trying to convert everyone to Democrats by skewering Republican figureheads. If you like Dean or Clintonette, you are right on target for 2008. If a moderate Republican is what you want, you should consider how much anti-Republican propaganda you want to spread.

In the end, the only people you can hurt are the next Republican candidates. Bush is there, he isn't going to be impeached, and he isn't going to change his stance this late in the game.

Draginol

Lets stop the BS. We are spending $675 Billion MORE then we are taxing this year. Last year it was about $625 Billion more then we taxed. We need to cut spending and or increase tax revenue by $675Billion. Since there is no place to cut spending anything close to $675 Billion, our taxes MUST be increased. Only a fool cuts taxes when the budget is out of balance. For example, in every war since the Civil War, we have increased taxes to pay the added cost of the war. Not Bush- he cuts taxes and the deficit goes nuts! Every year when the total deficit increasess the interest we must pay goes up because we owe more. Now interest rate are increasing so the total intetrest will go up for two reasons- we owe more and the rate of interest is higher.


If you believe the economy is so dam good, explain why the deficit is growing larger? I have no idea where you went to business school but the spiral that we are in will bankrupt any country, company or individual given enough time. When George Bush began with his tax cuts, Alan Greenspan as well as Paul O. Neil told him they must be tied to available surpluses and not to again go into a spiral of deficit spending. What did Bush do the exact opposite of what to most knowledgeable individuals in our government financial management advised him to do. I have never seen such idiotic explanations for a way to run anything including this country that I have seen from the blogs on this site. almost every credible economist and financial manager has told the administration same thing we cannot continue operating with trade deficit ,federal deficit, ignoring the impact of Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security the way we are operating.

just keep burying your head in the sand and when you take it out when a find a financial disaster facing you and everybody in this country.

Draginol Lets stop the BS. We are spending $675 Billion MORE then we are taxing this year. Last year it was about $625 Billion more then we taxed. We need to cut spending and or increase tax revenue by $675Billion. Since there is no place to cut spending anything close to $675 Billion, our taxes MUST be increased. Only a fool cuts taxes when the budget is out of balance. For example, in every war since the Civil War, we have increased taxes to pay the added cost of the war. Not Bush- he cuts taxes and the deficit goes nuts! Every year when the total deficit increasess the interest we must pay goes up because we owe more. Now interest rate are increasing so the total intetrest will go up for two reasons- we owe more and the rate of interest is higher. If you believe the economy is so dam good, explain why the deficit is growing larger? I have no idea where you went to business school but the spiral that we are in will bankrupt any country, company or individual given enough time. When George Bush began with his tax cuts, Alan Greenspan as well as Paul O. Neil told him they must be tied to available surpluses and not to again go into a spiral of deficit spending. What did Bush do the exact opposite of what to most knowledgeable individuals in our government financial management advised him to do. I have never seen such idiotic explanations for a way to run anything including this country that I have seen from the blogs on this site. almost every credible economist and financial manager has told the administration same thing we cannot continue operating with trade deficit ,federal deficit, ignoring the impact of Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security the way we are operating. just keep burying your head in the sand and when you take it out when a find a financial disaster facing you and everybody in this country.

YOU stop the BS! You were PROVEN wrong with data from YOUR own source! I realize though that you will NEVER admit to it. I proved you wrong with data that differed from yours and drag has proven you wrong yet again with data from your prefered site. When are you going to own up?

drmiler

Look at article by Jim VandeHei, Washington Post, Monday March 7 2005 page AO1. That article shows that YOU are Wrong genius. This article entitled "tax cuts loose spot on GOP agenda" clearly state what I have been saying and quote such people as Alan Greenspan, Senator Lindsey Graham and the Senate finance committee.

I'm so happy for you, drimiler. But, since when do you represent the 50 million people without health insurance and/or jobs? You don't. You don't represent anyone.

I think he represents the area of the country he is from. My area is at 3.9%.Link Historically that means full employment. If you feel you can't find a job, maybe you should move to another part of the country, . If you just sit at home crying that know one is opening a new business next to your house, so you have a job to walk to. Then it's your own fault you don't have a job and I for one would not place you high on my highering list with that type of attitude.

Ask the growing number of the unemployed and the low-level employed who do not have health insurance.

The national unemployment rate is 5.4%. The national Average rate for the last 35 years is 6.2%.
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You also fail to point out that during almost half the Clinton years there was more raw numbers of people out of work then in Jan 2005. The average number of unemployed between 1992-1999 was 7,503k (Clinton era), compared to 7,737k in Jan 2005. Now add to the fact that over 12.3 Million more people now live in the US since the end of the Clinton Era. I think that shows we are surpassing what's needed for population increase.

And since when is it the Governments (i.e. my responsibility) to pay for someone else's health insurance?????

I pay for my own family. My wife, who has lived in a country that has a national health system for over half her life, gets ticked off every time she hears how great a national health system is. She wound up paying for over half of her medical expenses because it was the only way to get a medical care fast and safe.

Anyway there are laws now that forbids hospitals from not helping the un-insured. i.e. the State or national Government eventually picks up the tab. It is ironic how people are screeching that every illegal alien gets free health care, but refuses to acknowledge that the same system that gives them healthcare is the same system that pays for the un-insured.

That's My Two Cents

P.S. As for the origianal artical I just believe that people was unhappy with Bush's preformance even before the election. They just could not bring themselve to vote Kerry/DNC that was three times as worse then Bush/RNC.

An addition to my last post P.S. Points

Just because Bush got elected does not mean he should stand on a high horse claiming he has a mandate. But the Democrats should not also take bad polls for Bush as an indication that they are winning and will be elected back in. Because IMO to many still find them a worse choice then the RNC.