Court Martial COL Gene

"Disrespecting a senior officer (in this case, the Commander-in-chief) would be a fine start."

If he is no longer in the military, how is the president a senior officer?

"The COL is certainly entitled to have his thoughts and ideas, but his actions in expressing those ideas are at times borderline treasonous, and most certainly disrespectful. Were the COL still in the military, he could be facing Courts martial, where he could be busted down in rank and potentially face dishonorable discharge or worse."

But he's not still in the military, so he isn't facing any court martials, and he won't be, so what was the point of writing this? You're just trying to start a nice string of comments about how misguided the COL is, and about how everyone is tired of him, and about how he should go away. On the upside, it'll get you some points, which is what I assume you were after in the first place.

I am sure the Bushies would like me to go away because the facts I point out reflect poorly on their leader. I have had a lot of people agree with many of the issues I have raised. Yes Philomedy you are correct, I am retired and no longer in the military. I have all the rights you and every other Blogger has. Take a look at Midwest Book Review in August as to what they thought about the thoughts in my book.

If he is no longer in the military, how is the president a senior officer?

If he is no longer in the military, then why are we constantly seeing the title "COL" bandied about on every article he posts, or every reply he adds to one?

He seems to want to live by the rule that once in the military, then always in the military. If that is the case, then charges would be appropriate.

The vast majority of members of the military do their service and move on to other parts of their lives without rubbing the public's nose in their former titles. That clearly isn't happening here, as we are all constantly reminded of the COLs title as if it's something that should make us all salute every word he writes. Again, if that title means something like that, then the title President of the U.S. certainly deserves more respect that it's been shown by the COL.

can we bring charges against you for being a humourless jingoist?

If he is no longer in the military, how is the president a senior officer? If he is no longer in the military, then why are we constantly seeing the title "COL" bandied about on every article he posts, or every reply he adds to one?

As much as I *intensely* dislike Col, I got to stand up for him. As a honorably retired (at what would be considered flag rank by the Navy, not sure what the army term is.) officer he is entitled to use his rank as a prefix to his name. Were he still in the military the charges would be more than apropriate. However since he is a civilian they ring rather hollow.

There's lots of material on him if you know how to dig.

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If he is no longer in the military, then why are we constantly seeing the title "COL" bandied about on every article he posts, or every reply he adds to one?

You are aware that you can name yourself whatever you want on your blog right? Do you assume that kingbee demands deference as a monarch? Do you assume drmiler and drguy are rubbing their medical degrees in your face?

You are aware that you can name yourself whatever you want on your blog right? Do you assume that kingbee demands deference as a monarch? Do you assume drmiler and drguy are rubbing their medical degrees in your face?

Can I assume then that you don't mind if I demand to be acknowledged and respected if I use this title:

He who is never wrong and rules with supreme authority reserved for everyone except God and my wife?

Thanks for the ad hominen efforts, but my point was and remains that the COLs words are the very ones that would be used to make a case for a court martial if he were on active duty.

BTW, looking through the links that were noted, I'd stack my record against the COLs any time. The COL strikes me as just the type of individuals I served with in one of the more heavily loaded with brass units in the military. More leafs than a national forest, and about as much common sense amongst the lot as one might find in an average kindergarten. Educated individuals, definitely, but no common sense to go with the education, and no ability to think outside the box that was put in front of them. I feared for the lives of my entire unit, myself especially because I just knew one of those people would be the one that would get the entire unit captured or killed when the balloon went up.

Can I assume then that you don't mind if I demand to be acknowledged and respected if I use this title:He who is never wrong and rules with supreme authority reserved for everyone except God and my wife?

I don't mind at all. You can demand that I call you whatever you want. I won't, but feel free to demand.

And to my recollection, the COL has never demanded that anyone address him as such.

Reply #9 By: Citizen Philomedy - 3/11/2005 5:27:28 PM Can I assume then that you don't mind if I demand to be acknowledged and respected if I use this title:He who is never wrong and rules with supreme authority reserved for everyone except God and my wife? I don't mind at all. You can demand that I call you whatever you want. I won't, but feel free to demand. And to my recollection, the COL has never demanded that anyone address him as such.

Ah, but you must show me the respect for which my title demands. It's implied in the use of the title, so you may not ignore the need and simply go on your way.

Bow before me, you know you must.

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signed: He who is never wrong and rules with supreme authority reserved for everyone except God and my wife

Look at the first link in #6 by BakerStreet if you want to know what I am about. That article is the result of an interview by a reporter after reading my book.

Isn't this level of personal attack against another blogger against the TOC? Since when does terpan dictate what others should call themselves? Boy, if we had that kind of control, what names we'd all be calling eachother. Sheesh............

Reply #12 By: dabe - 3/11/2005 7:14:54 PM Isn't this level of personal attack against another blogger against the TOC? Since when does terpan dictate what others should call themselves? Boy, if we had that kind of control, what names we'd all be calling eachother. Sheesh............

In case you can't figure it out Dabe, let me spell it out for you.

COL Gene posts article demanding impeachment of the commander-in-chief (for bogus reasons no less).

Terpfan posts article demanding Courts martial of COL Gene due to his disrespectful attacks on Commander-in-Chief (which is against military decorum and policy).

See the parallel?

Baseless attack, met with (as you or others may say) baseless attack. Ironic isn't it?

Anyone who believes failure to protect the United States and enforcement of our laws is not an essential responsibility of the President does not understand our system. When te President fails to meet his responsibilities the only action open to Congress is impeachment. The grounds are high crimes and misdemeanors. If you do not think failure to protect our country and enforce its laws is not a misdemeanour you better look the word up in the dictionary. It is a crime less then a felony. Bush took an oath to enforce the laws of this country. I hope you all watched Lou Dobbs tonight and heard Rep. Dana Rohrabacker (R) of Calif had to say about the Bush administration and its refusal to enforce immigration laws and the impact on his state.

Ah, but you must show me the respect for which my title demands. It's implied in the use of the title, so you may not ignore the need and simply go on your way.Bow before me, you know you must.

And yet, watch me ignore the need and be on my way. Here is me ignoring the need. Here is me going on my way.

I charge you with treason: For bringing a bad name to our country, and spoling our foreign relations.

Anyone who believes failure to protect the United States and enforcement of our laws is not an essential responsibility of the President does not understand our system. When te President fails to meet his responsibilities the only action open to Congress is impeachment. The grounds are high crimes and misdemeanors. If you do not think failure to protect our country and enforce its laws is not a misdemeanour you better look the word up in the dictionary. It is a crime less then a felony. Bush took an oath to enforce the laws of this country. I hope you all watched Lou Dobbs tonight and heard Rep. Dana Rohrabacker (R) of Calif had to say about the Bush administration and its refusal to enforce immigration laws and the impact on his state.

First I wouldn't watch Lou Dobbs if you paid me. I lump him in the same catagory as Rather. Bush isn't the only one in charge of enforcing laws. Pentagon, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Border patrol, hell every damn member of the armed forces (protect against all enemies, both foreign and domestic). And a bunch of others to boot. Bush is not a law enforcement officer. And with the exception of the border patrol neither are the others.

You really should change your title terpfan. Personally I don't care if you're so childish you need to stoop to using someone's name to insult them, but the TOS does cover this sort of thing and it's just in general impolite to use another blogger's name in the title of a rant against them. You could always talk about 'pseudo-colonels' if you really have to drop a heavy hint.

At least you haven't blacklisted him though.

Seeing as how we're talking about names anyway... what the hell is a terp and why are you a fan of them?

let's do it up big and bring charges against colonel sanders, colonel angus, general electric, admiral appliances, private parts, corporal punishment, sergeant preston, major contributors,marshall fields and commander cody.

props to bakerstreet for deducing the existence of col gene links (sounds sorta like dna research that way huh?).

what the hell is a terp and why are you a fan of them?

yer killin me here cacto

Wow, this thread has turned out to be a lot of fun to read!! All sorts of stuff being thrown back and forth, most of it not even true, but all of it fun to read!!!

As one who has taken on the good Colonel a time or two, disagreed with him almost always, made fun of him a lot, and (to the shock and awe of both of us) even accidentally agreed on an issue... I'd like to chime in here... if I may. ;~D

1st of all, there's nowhere in the UCMJ that says we lose our freedom of speech when we enlist. If every servicemember who ever disagreed with their superiors were court martialed for doing so, the anti military folks in this country wouldn't have anything to be "anti" anymore!

All of us learned really soon that there are two kinds of officers, those who you salute, and those whose ranks you salute. It also didn't take long to figure out which is which. We openly talked about our superior NCOs and Officers, and I can think of more than a few times when I disagreed with superiors and spoke my mind (to various responses, reactions and consequences ;~D) Even a few "thank you for speaking up" type reactions.

George Washington himself is attributed to have said, "When we assumed the Soldier, we did not lay aside the Citizen."

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When we retire, we are still under many provisions of the UCMJ. We also retain our rank. I'm as guily as the next guy of personal shots at Col Gene (and him wearing his rank on his SN), I do wonder about any retiree that introduces himself with his rank (but then again, I wondered about active servicemembers who did the same thing, while not in uniform). However, fodder for personal shots aside, Col Gene earned the rank, he retired with it, so of course, he has every right to use it anyway he wants.

As for his verbal shots at Prs. Bush. Sure, he is pretty much a "one trick pony" (credit to Gideon), and well, using an archaic term, "sounds like a broken record", but his blog is his pony to ride. Predictable as he may be, with his needle is stuck on the same "Bash Bush, Bash Bush, Bash Bush, Bash Bush", his stuff is usually still worth reading. They may be misguided and brash, but their usually well written at best and wildly funny at worst! ;~D

As I pointed out to Col Gene in the article that inspired this call to court against him, his rant about impeaching Prs. Bush has no Constitution basis or grounds. Well Terp, as much as we usually agree, you rant has no grounds either.

I was a fun read though!! ;~D

As I said I am not a lawyer. I do know that if Congress started to impeach Bush for not protecting the U S Borders, that it would end in his removal. The first step is a charge which I believe that is brought in the House. I bet that action could take place. The trial is conducted in te Senate which decides if the offense is reason to remove the President. At the very least, it would get the attention of Bush to do something. As I have said, if another 9/11 takes place and the terrorists are traced to comming over our unprotected border, you Bush supporters will be standing in the COLD!

let's do it up big and bring charges against colonel sanders, colonel angus,

I think we should bring something up on Colonel Angus, because Colonel Angus always brings something up on me.


(...we now return you to your regularly scheduled political rumpus...)

what the hell is a terp and why are you a fan of them?

I think its the Maryland Terrapin, which is the huge angry looking turtle that is Maryland's mascot. At least that's the only Terp I've heard of.

what the hell is a terp and why are you a fan of them? I think its the Maryland Terrapin, which is the huge angry looking turtle that is Maryland's mascot. At least that's the only Terp I've heard of.

Terrapin Picture

It's the Maryland state reptile, and the mascot of the University of Maryland. Nice looking animal.
They had a good basketball team a few years ago, and won the NCAA Basketball Championship. This year it'll be my alma mater, the University of IlliNO.1s Fighting Illini.

They had a good basketball team a few years ago, and won the NCAA Basketball Championship. This year it'll be my alma mater, the University of IlliNO.1s Fighting Illini.

Right on!!! Go Illini!!! Screw Ohio State!!! We're going all the way!!!