Bill Clinton is my Hero

That's my story and I'm sticking to it

Former President Bill Clinton is my personal hero. While in office President Clinton payed off the national debt AND got America back to work. When Clinton was around, he increased the number of jobs and increased the base line for minimum wage. He also funded many education programs and backed up education in the arts.

So what if he liked his winky sucked...don't all men?

Give the brother a break....What didn't you like about the Clinton administration Peace or Prosperity?
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He also allowed the genocide in Rwanda to occur. You criticized Reagan for ignoring starving children in Africa, but you ignore this fact about Clinton. Why is that?
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Are you also saying that perjury is not a serious crime and shouldn't be one at all?
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Bill Clinton ADDRESSED the problem in rwanda....however, Reagan did not Address the problems in Africa.

Like I said before, what about JFK and Marylin? why wasn't he remembered for any of that? he did the exact same thing....but since he's dead he's invincible.
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Winky....

Bubba is a good man, but he has his flaws. He's one of my heroes too.

I think history will remember him for more than a BJ and a cigar incident. He will be remembered for bringing the economy back, promoting freedom in the US and the rest of the world, and saving 3 million Bosnian muslims from certain annihilation. All in all a pretty impressive legacy!

Thomas Jefferson had a long term relationship with Sally Hemmings that was well known back in his day, and he's legendary now.



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Bill Clinton ADDRESSED the problem in rwanda....however, Reagan did not Address the problems in Africa.


I'm no history major, but the history I read seems to conclude that genocide did occur in Rwanda, so when did Clinton do anything about it? Did he actually send troops over there to prevent it and they just were too weak against the powerful enemies?
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Reply #3 By: alison watkins - 1/26/2005 6:25:18 PM
Bill Clinton ADDRESSED the problem in rwanda


NO he did not!
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Wasn't Clinton Pres during Kosovo and something in Bosnia where lots of people were killed?
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I remeber Ronnie not giving a rats a** about the rest of the world when he was president.
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Bubba went in and put a stop to that trina.
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I remeber Ronnie not giving a rats a** about the rest of the world when he was president.


What's funny is that when Clinton did that (i.e. Rwanda), you guys applaud him. Is it because they're Africans, while the Bosnians were whiter? I hate to play the race card, but I want to understand why you guys think nothing wrong of him ignoring the genocide there, because it wasn't in the interest of the US.
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Reply #9 By: thatoneguyinslc - 1/26/2005 6:35:09 PM
Bubba went in and put a stop to that trina.


Can you "show" me where that happened? Because I was around when that happened and I don't remember anything of the sort.
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As for Rwanda, Clinton addressed it by saying we would only intervene in situations that were in our interest. He ordered his staff to not call it "genocide" in press conferences, because it would have required us to interevene by UN standards. He sat back and let 800,000 people be killed. He, himself, admitted that had he interevened probably half of them wouldn't have died. I stongly suggest you watch the documentary: Frontline: Ghosts of Rwanda.

As for the economy, Bill Clinton had nothing to do with all those jobs being created, they were the result of the tech boom. I'd love for you to explain to all of us how a President conjurs jobs out of thin air. Unless you really do believe that his administration "invented the internet", I dunno how you can give Clinton credit for all those jobs.

CONGRESS raises the federal minimus wage. I suggest you look at The US Department of Labor FAQ.

So, if you think Clinton is a hero for taking credit for the tech boom, allowing 400,000 people to die needlessly, and signing his name on a Congressional minimum wage increase, great for you. I, personally, don't.

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I guess even used car salesmen get hero worship. The man was and is about the most spineless and sneaky man I have ever had the displeasure of serving under. We never paid off the debt, he cooked the books, thus giving permission, however unwritten for corporate America to do likewise. He is a complete and utter fraud, likely uncapable of showing true emotion. He's a liar, he's unremorseful, and he and egomaniac. "He" is not the government, "He" did not run the government by his little lonesome.

He raised the minimum wage so that teenie boppers could afford ther very own Nike Air Jordans. Minimum wage is not a wage for a family to live on, and if they are living on it, then I want them spayed and neutered. An increase in the minimum wage is not good for companies in that it reduces the profits of the organization. So, to counter the loss of profit, many companies reduce the hours an employee works, or lay off more employees than they normally would. Minimum wage increases have little effect on semi skilled or skilled labor in that the smarter labor force is already compensated well above that level. The dumb ones have to fend for themselves. It's a thinning of the herd type thing.

I hate even talking about his dallying about with education. Anecdotally, I remember watching the music and theater programs vanishing from public schools at an alarming rate in the early 90's. Remember all the commercials on MTV asking for donations of musical instruments in schools? That was the Clinton legacy. He dumbed down our schools, he taught our children that oral sex isn't sex even though the word sex "is" clearly in the title of the act. He may have given more to the National Endowment for the Arts, but that would be a given, since they are by nature a liberal bunch. So, no, he didn't help our children in the least. Besides, it isn't the responsibility of the government to teach your children, that belongs to parents, period. What the government does is not teaching, but indoctrination, similar to Cuba's education system. Why would you want a group of bureaucrats teaching your children when you wouldn't let most of them at your dinner table?

As for his "slick willy", I compare it to the Pope getting pleasured during the middle of mass in the Vatican. I'm sorry, the White House is not a red light district, though I won't speak for the rest of D.C. The man turned the Presidency, his Presidency, into a frat party, plain and simple.

The eight years I endured him, nearly six of them in the military, were the most excruciating years of my life up to this point. The man could not make a decision on his own without the aid of polling data. During his watch he killed a handful of people in Waco, sent a Cuban refugee back, sat on his laurels after our sailors got killed by terrorists, ran us out of a country after our soldiers were massacred and dragged through dirt streets by terrorists, and unblinkingly looked away when genocide took place on the other side of the world. That is the Bill Clinton I remember.

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" I remeber Ronnie not giving a rats a** about the rest of the world when he was president."

Evidently you weren't old enough to remember. Reagan was constantly criticized for taking too much of an interest. Our involvment in the Middle East, and balancing the Soviet Union at the time was huge. Libya? Grenada? Lebanon? You obviously don't even know your anti-Reagan propaganda...

" Bubba went in and put a stop to that trina.

I guess you aren't famliar with that conflict either. You aren't aware that the UN and the US sat back for years while ethnic cleansing was going on, as Sarajevo was butchered, as Red Cross aid drops were used as bait by snipers. In the end, we waited until almost everyone was finished, and then wandered in with the UN, like always. Also, Clinton had a lot to do with the escalation there by supporting Iranian involvment.

If you are going to be Liberal, maybe you oughtta get in the loop.

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Baker.

I am old enough to remember Ronnie. Show me one instance where he did anything that benefitted the rest of the world that didn't primarily benefit us (and don't say the cold war ending either, it was almost 50 years of US policy that did that)

And if it wasn't for Bubbas insistance, the UN would have never went in. Thus he put a stop to it.

How many slaughters have occurred on the repubs watch since we are on the subject? How many did Reagan oversee in Central America during his watch? how many chemical weapons were sold to Iraq as well??

Get off your high horses righties. Face it, you couldn't wreck him when he was president, and you sure cannot prevent history from remembering him as a good president.


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"While in office President Clinton payed off the national debt"

At what point am I supposed to take you seriously if you don't know the difference between the paying off the national debt and turning in a budget proposal with no deficit spending? Personally, I laughed my head off when he said that he turned in a balanced budget. What he did do was offer up a 10 year plan that left a lot of budget items out. This was genius (from a political standpoint) because 1) As soon as he was no longer in office, his budget became shredder bait because no administration or congress is bound to the budgets of previous ones and 2) He will forever be remembered, by those who have no idea what they are talking about, as the President who "paid off the national debt".

One thing I wonder though, would he have been fired from Weyco Inc for encouraging young women to use tobacco, or would they have let it slide since she didn't actually smoke the thing?? ;~D

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And the same "conjuring " statement can definately be applied nowadays with dubya. Even more so.
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LMAO... jeez. Pretty clumsy dodge.

So, 200,000 people die between 1992 and 1995 in the Balkans before Clinton finally decides to do something. 800,000 people die in Rwanda... and Clinton NEVER does anything.

That's a million or more people, and you are trying just to slip past it and poke at Reagan? Clinton wrecked himself, he doesn't need "righties" to do it. You think PBS is right wing?

He didn't DO ANYTHING. You can't credit him as a humanitarian, you can't credit him with the jobs that came with the tech boom, you can't credit him with Congressional minumum wage hikes. So, if "Good President" means a do-nothing that takes credit for things he had little to do with, kudos, you nailed it.

I mean, my GOD, the man ordered his staff NOT TO CALL IT GENOCIDE... Here's Clinton being Clinton:

"In a speech that month to U.S. Naval Academy graduates, President Clinton said "Whether we get involved in any of the world's ethnic conflicts in the end must depend on the cumulative weight of the American interests at stake.""

That was while hundreds of thousands of people were being killed and mutilated. Nice. It's pathetic when people stoop to revisionist history to prop up their ideology.

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It's funny how people call Clinton a hero, and you show them he was really a slug, and their response is "Oh yeah, well, Reagan sucked!!"

The point here was Clinton is some kind of hero, which he most assuredly isn't. Not even close.

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His quote makes sense to me Baker. Since when does the US do anything that isn't in our interests?
As for everything else...Like always, i take what you say with a grain of salt.

He saved lives, and presided over the biggest economic growth period in the history after one of the worst recessions in the history of the US.

Outside of Ike and Lincoln and maybe TR...Bupkus!

Let's run the list shall we?

Nixon: You gotta be kidding! A criminal, liar and paranoid.
Ford: A good man who forgave a criminal and was basically impotent as a president
Reagan: Supported murderous military Juntas, sold weapons to a mortal enemy and financed right wing death squads. A real sweetheart!
bush 1.0: Couldnt find his ass with both hands in the humanitarian realm, went into Kuwait to bail his saudi buddies out.
bush 2.0: Quite possibly the biggest idiot in the history of human politics. Started a war based on a verified non existant threat, let another enemy slip through his fingers, allows our biggest thereats to cultivate nuclear stockpiles, ignores genocide, and let's not forget trashing an economy and burying us in debt as well.

Impressive bunch. Bill is a saint compared to these guys.
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And actually the point was he is a hero to the author, and i happen to agree with her.I think it was you who came in and turned it into a character assassination attempt. As usual.
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Reply #21 By: thatoneguyinslc - 1/26/2005 8:13:39 PM
And actually the point was he is a hero to the author, and i happen to agree with her.I think it was you who came in and turned it into a character assassination attempt. As usual.


Truth hurt, does it?
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" And actually the point was he is a hero to the author, and i happen to agree with her.I think it was you who came in and turned it into a character assassination attempt. As usual."

No character to assassinate. The reasons she stated for his being a hero are bogus. If someone said Hitler was their hero for defeating alien invaders from Neptune, I'd feel compelled to chime in. The exagerattion here is about as annoying...

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Not really miler. No matter whay any of you righties say, it makes no difference to me.

You guys know what i mean to an even bigger extent with your undying admiration for dubya.
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One lie as opposed to ....how many are we up to now? Jeez i lost count.