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The two types of Republicans

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The two types of Republicans

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Hell.. Maybe I am under analyzing the party’s demographics, but based on the people I know (and I will admit that this causes a large bias because most of the people I know qualify for inclusion in group 2), I have determined that there are two types of republicans:

The first type is the one who finds solace in the non-economic properties of the republican platform. In other words, they are not in the top income earning bracket, and therefore are not the primary concern of the Republican Party’s tax breaks. These people like the ideas of discrimination and other acts of bigotry (anti-gay for example). These people could also be southerner (again, harkens back to the days of racism, so this would qualify them as bigoted again). There are those who are violent or dislike other ethnicities (the people who say bomb Iraq or the Middle East for example have no compassion for life or do not care for middle easterners, because you wouldn't hear them say bomb the hell out of England or Canada). These are the people that I can absolutely not understand. While I try, their lack of compassion astounds me and I find it very difficult to have a reasonable discussing with such people.

The next group is filled with people in the top income earning brackets. They benefit from the republican tax cuts, and choose to allow money to buy their vote. They often care about the other issues, but money plays a more important role in their decision. While I do not agree with these people, I do not find them as irrational as the people in group 1. These people have a legitimate, and reasonable, albeit greedy, reason for voting republican. The problem found here is that the people in group two often just support what ever republican candidates are backing. They may not personally believe it in their hearts, but they spew forth the propaganda from the GOP.

Now, as you climb the economic ladder, there comes a point very high up on the ladder (around billionaire status), where a) you have enough money as it is or b) you are getting tax cuts anyways, and therefore you vote as you feel. Examples of such people include Soros, Gates, Ted Turner, etc.

Well... that just about does it... now tomorrow maybe the two or more types of dems.
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Reply #26 from PolMach Forums Top
First let me say I am sorry, my comments were very quickly blurted out because I was "personally" insulted. Dems are no less than any Republican, I am a Dem and I was felt degraded. Let me point out I never said Clinton's mistakes were little, however, you seemed oblivious to the fact that Republican Presidents made plenty of mistakes as well. In the end I only started a "scorecard" of what each side has done. As for my rebate comment, that was in no way intended to be an insult, it was sarcasm, something that commonly escapes me when I am angry. Nor did I mean to insult your intelligence, so in turn I will look in and see what it takes to do what you do.
Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top
Let me get this strait....

If your a Republican, your either a raciest Red neck hick with no education or a millionaire.

Since I'm not a hick, millionaire or a Republican, then why did me and over 20% of my fellow Americans (that don't fall into your equation above) decide to vote for President Bush.

Maybe we are not buying the Democrats enlightened views, like those you address above. People don't like arrogance and negativism.

Over the last 20 years the Republicans have learned that you can get more support from Joe middle man by offering hope and a positive out look. This has shown to work, because the Democrat party has lost about 5-6% of the American populace every 10 years for the last two decades. It is a slow trend, but if it is not reversed there is going to be more and more millionaires/red neck hicks (in your view) and you will never understand why.

That's My Two Cents
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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top
Apology accepted. And may I say I am sorry this got out of hand. I could have been a little nicer myself. I look for only one thing in a human being. A good and honest heart. I do not care what race,color, creed,religion, or what political party one supports. I do not like liars or thieves. And there are many of those in both parties ect. And in that light, I will not be participating in this type of discussion again. There are alot more important things than bickering back and forth. It is not constructive. So, again I am sorry too. I hope you have a Great week.
Reply #29 from PolMach Forums Top

Reply #28 By: clwoods - 1/24/2005 11:41:55 PM
Apology accepted. And may I say I am sorry this got out of hand. I could have been a little nicer myself. I look for only one thing in a human being. A good and honest heart. I do not care what race,color, creed,religion, or what political party one supports. I do not like liars or thieves. And there are many of those in both parties ect. And in that light, I will not be participating in this type of discussion again. There are alot more important things than bickering back and forth. It is not constructive. So, again I am sorry too. I hope you have a Great week.


Well stated! Apology accepted as well! You have a Great week too!
Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top
If this article was a joke, then it's great!
However, it seems that some people are actually taking this article seriously. Do people really have their heads that far up their own asses?


Across the entire spectrum there are people wound so tight that a team of horses couldn't pull a thread out of their ass.

But it's fun to watch, ain't it?
Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top
If you had meant to say that you were describing 2 different types of Reps. that exist in the party, perhaps it would have been clearer.

However, sorting people into two categories is a bit simplistic.
Reply #32 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply #28 By: clwoods - 1/24/2005 11:41:55 PM

Apology accepted. And may I say I am sorry this got out of hand. I could have been a little nicer myself. I look for only one thing in a human being. A good and honest heart. I do not care what race,color, creed,religion, or what political party one supports. I do not like liars or thieves. And there are many of those in both parties ect. And in that light, I will not be participating in this type of discussion again. There are alot more important things than bickering back and forth. It is not constructive. So, again I am sorry too. I hope you have a Great week.


Bonus Rating: Trolling Insightful






Reply #29 By: DNCdude - 1/24/2005 11:52:55 PM


Reply #28 By: clwoods - 1/24/2005 11:41:55 PM
Apology accepted. And may I say I am sorry this got out of hand. I could have been a little nicer myself. I look for only one thing in a human being. A good and honest heart. I do not care what race,color, creed,religion, or what political party one supports. I do not like liars or thieves. And there are many of those in both parties ect. And in that light, I will not be participating in this type of discussion again. There are alot more important things than bickering back and forth. It is not constructive. So, again I am sorry too. I hope you have a Great week.



Well stated! Apology accepted as well! You have a Great week too!


I am very proud of both of you. This is the behavior I like to promote on my thread. In light of this, I have given both of you insightful ratings for your cordial behavior. Please, keep it up. This is an example everyone, so listen up, on people from different sides of the political spectrums getting along.

Reply #33 from JoeUser Forums Top
"I am very proud of both of you. This is the behavior I like to promote on my thread. "

A thread which you started by saying republicans are either rich or bigoted. You have no moral authority at this point to judge.

Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top

Did I say all Democrats are either asinine or deranged? No, I said that someone who makes an ASININE point that ALL republicans are either rich or bigoted would have to be DERANGED.

hard to believe that people can be so partisan that they don't see this ignorance for what it is...

Reply #35 from PolMach Forums Top
asinine


deranged


You have no moral authority at this point to judge.


No offense but neither do you, if this is true.
Reply #36 from JoeUser Forums Top
Bakerstreet, you are the only deranged person to have posted yet. Not any of the other "republicans" are. Just you. I was even tempted to delete your comments, but decided to stand up for freedom of speech.
Reply #37 from JoeUser Forums Top

You don't know me, you call me a bigot because of my political affiliation, and then when I take exception to it you say I am deranged. hrm...

I still think this is all just point whoring anyway, but you could at least make a show of having real ideas about it. I'd love to hear you back up the idea that 100 million people or so are either bigots or wealthy...

Reply #38 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ok... well you are entitled to that belief, but I don't really care about points. You could take them all away and I don't care.

Now, I may have acted hastily in saying their are two types of republicans. Clearly, this was false. On the other hand, I never attempted to categorize 100 million people. First of all, 100 million people don't even vote. But negating that, I am only including the STAUNCH, BLIND supporters of Repubican ideals. The ones who will ALWAYS vote republican. I don't know if this is you. I don't know your voting record, but I do know that I don't like being called assinine. I also don't like being called a whore, in any form.

Now, I am sorry for my harsh words. I apologize also if you feel you were incorrectly categorized. I would appreciate it if you could express to me the issues that you consider to be important and how the republican party meets those isues (and I don't want homeland security or something like that, because that is a post-9/11 thing and therefore does not apply to the entire republican party, but rather just Bush. )
Reply #39 from JoeUser Forums Top

There's almost 300,000,000 people in the US. Something like 117 million people voted in the last presidential election, and not all Republicans bother to vote in Presidential elections. 60 million voted Republican. Given that 50+ million people identify themselves as Libertarian, I think you can safely say substantially more than that consider themselves Republican.

Somthing like 160,000 actually register as Libertarian, so how you determine who is and isn't affiliated with a political party is gonna be tough. Maybe gentics? Shape of the head?

" I would appreciate it if you could express to me the issues that you consider to be important and how the republican party meets those isues (and I don't want homeland security or something like that, because that is a post-9/11 thing and therefore does not apply to the entire republican party, but rather just Bush. )"

I can do that. I have to do a Battlestar Galactica review, but I'll whip something up later tonight or tommorow.

As for apologies and all that, no offense, but you knew what you were saying when you said it. If you don't like being called something as innocuous as "points whore" you can imagine how you'd feel to be called a bigot because of your political affiliation. I would suggest re-expressing yourself, because the article above is insulting and uninspired.

Reply #40 from JoeUser Forums Top
BakerStreet fancies himself to be morally and intellectually superior, and has no qualms about sorting people in categories himself. A well-developed sense of ethics is a wonderful thing, but not when you go about like a general prat smacking people with them.

Not content to merely refute a view or two, he resorts to ad hominem attacks and questions the age/intelligence/sanity of the writer in almost every response. I figure he probably does this without even realizing it, and be assured that if he climbs off his throne to answer this response he'll call me "jesusstayscrunchy" and bring up things that happened months ago in an attempt to put me in my place.

It's a game that works for him, although I personally would have gotten tired of playing it by now.
Reply #41 from JoeUser Forums Top
He's so cute. Couldn't you just eat him up? ...
Reply #42 from JoeUser Forums Top
I will not apologize for the article Bakerstreet. I apologized for the offense it might have caused you. My intent was to express my views, not to insult people. I regret that this has happened, and apologize for it, but I will not apolgize for the article because I retain the.. though slightly modified view.

Your numbers do not add up. 50+ Million people consider themseleves Libertarians? Then how come the candidate didn't get 50+ million votes? If you have voted republican in the past 8 lections or all of the elections of your lifetime (has to include the '96 election), then you are what I consider to be a staunch republican supporter. The majority of people are swing voters.

I appreciate and am looking forward to your response to my request for what issues you consider important, etc.
Reply #43 from JoeUser Forums Top
Your numbers do not add up. 50+ Million people consider themseleves Libertarians? Then how come the candidate didn't get 50+ million votes?

Because there is no viable Libertarian candidate in any election. I've no doubt that the Libertarians could be massive if it were given half a chance. There's around 200,000 or so registered Libertarians, and yet their candidate got almost 400,000 votes, almost as much as Nadar and got bupkis in terms of press. Democrats voted Republican and vice-versa because they were outraged about the choices.

That's why your article is flawed. Frankly, I dunno who you are talking about when you talk about "Republicans" that way. Evidently it isn't anyone I know, since I don't hang out with bigots or the wealthy, and yet I know a lot of Republicans...

Reply #44 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply #43 By: BakerStreet - 1/26/2005 2:59:39 AM
That's why your article is flawed. Frankly, I dunno who you are talking about when you talk about "Republicans" that way. Evidently it isn't anyone I know, since I don't hang out with bigots or the wealthy, and yet I know a lot of Republicans...


I also am a republican and am neither wealthy nor bigoted and NONE of the republicans I know aren't either.