No wmd in Iraq

The Left rejoices

from JoeUser Forums
Ah yes the left is now Jumping with joy... There is happiness in mudville today.

Many "I told you so's" are flying.

The cia reports the search of wmd in Iraq is over.

Well my question is WHERE ARE THEY THEN.?

Instead of rejoicing, the search should be intensified, to dismiss the idea saddam had wmds is folly.

I for one want to know what happened to all those chemical weapons.

Anyone that had been through basic training {boot camp} has experenced what it is like to breathe a very mild chemical weapon
{tear gas} to think that other much more toxic chem weaps are on the loose is damn frightening.

While the left is whooping it up laughing I sure hope they do not have to experence what it is like to have your lungs burst, eyes bleed, vomit blood and become a victim of this terrible weapon.

For anyone to believe saddam had no wmds is insane. but then thats what I have been saying all along, the left is completely out of touch with the harsh realities of life.

I wonder what the left is going to say if a wmd is released here in america?

I can hear it now, well bush was asleep at the switch again, the left will just not accept any responsibility for anything.

So whoop it up while you can lefties, while the american people are in peril.

Then remember to say< well I thought all along there were wmds, Bush should have searched harder, put more people on
the case. After all I did proclaim saddam has wmds all along. At this point all "dementia" from the left would disappear, as they once again accept no responsibility for anything.
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Reply #1 from PolMach Forums Top
What's worst about this post is those like-minded to moderateman's perspective simply would not listen to the many criticism's of the wisdom in Bush policy or entertain the possiblity of a lack of tenacity of his and his administration's words. Duelfer report? Screw that! If Bush says they are there, they're there. Only now, when they officially give up the hunt, do true believers admit, "hey, it was a goof, sorry 'bout all that money and lives it cost".

What's truly telling, however, is that the hunt has ended. If the Bush administration really truly believed there were such wmd's, they would at least conduct some follow up to ascertain where and how and when the weapons were actually destroyed. Of course, they can't do that since they already knew the Iraqi's had little actual substance other than what we originally provided them with. Despite the Bush admin. evangelizing on tv everyday the thought of a mushroom cloud, scaring millions of Americans needlessly. This whole debacle simply lends more credence to the thought that the Bush admin. was reaching selectively for intel that suit their immediate needs as opposed to the more responsible and statesman-like attitude of utilizing caution and wisdom to temper assertiveness and aggression. What else are they lying about and when will true-believers become open-minded skeptics?
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
ah, well, a lot of the weapons inspectors from pre-1998 seem to think that those weapons were destroyed, and that Saddam kept up a bluff so that Iran would stay fearful of Iraq...

But is this really news? Most of us realists over here on the left have pretty much been saying there were no WMDs since well before the invasion.

But, hey, let's start a few more wars, we're bound to find some somewhere. Maybe we could invade Israel, we know for a FACT that they have WMDs.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
I beat you to it Mod... But the blame lies with both parties.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Wednesday, January 12, 2005I beat you to it Mod... But the blame lies with both parties.


I hope I did'nt step on your post.. if I did it was an honest mistake.. ok?
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
no problemo man. No smashed toes here!
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: MyrranderPosted: Wednesday, January 12, 2005


But, hey, let's start a few more wars, we're bound to find some somewhere. Maybe we could invade Israel, we know for a FACT that they have WMDs.


yes BUT are the Israelies a threat to anyone? not if there left alone... and the lets start a few more wars is kinda crass myrr I expect better than that from you.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
yes BUT are the Israelies a threat to anyone?


Yeah, they are.

lets start a few more wars is kinda crass myrr


I'm a rather crass individual. Sorry. But we went to Iraq to "disarm" them -- and, WOW, they didn't have any of the stuff we said they did.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Moderateman,
even the US government now believes that no WMD exists and have stopped looking. How much more right wing than GWB are you? Most people do believe Bush is on the right of centre. So that meaqns that the left, the centre and the right all believe that WMD didn't exist at the time of the invasion. So where do you stand? Ultra far right?

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Reply #9 from PolMach Forums Top
Is it too far beyond the realm of belief that he used the last of his WMDs on the Kurds after the first Gulf War?
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: DeferencePosted: Wednesday, January 12, 2005


all true and all good, still tho, why did not saddam just show and tell bout wmds? specially when the us military was poised on his doorstep.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: MyrranderPosted: Wednesday, January 12, 2005yes BUT are the Israelies a threat to anyone?Yeah, they are.


who pray tell? Do you think the israelies will be THE AGGRESSOR in things then use wmds?
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: SolitairPosted: Wednesday, January 12, 2005Moderateman,even the US government now believes that no WMD exists and have stopped looking. How much more right wing than GWB are you? Most people do believe Bush is on the right of centre. So that meaqns that the left, the centre and the right all believe that WMD didn't exist at the time of the invasion. So where do you stand? Ultra far right?


by political views I am a moderate republican....really.

When it comes to trusting these madmen , saddam, et al I am a radical foaming at the mouth rightwinger. k?
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: DeferencePosted: Wednesday, January 12, 2005What's worst about this post is those like-minded to moderateman's perspective simply would not listen to the many criticism's of the wisdom in Bush policy or entertain the possiblity of a lack of tenacity of his and his administration's words. Duelfer report? Screw that! If Bush says they are there, they're there. Only now, when they officially give up the hunt, do true believers admit, "hey, it was a goof, sorry 'bout all that money and lives it cost".


ok wassa mistake..... a huge mistake....I hate war and lives lost, bodies maimed, minds broken, I really do
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top

Is it too far beyond the realm of belief that he used the last of his WMDs on the Kurds after the first Gulf War?

Possible, or perhaps he destroyed them.  But then he sure fooled the rest of the world, including the UN, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Madeline Albright as well as George W. Bush.

Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Wednesday, January 12, 2005Is it too far beyond the realm of belief that he used the last of his WMDs on the Kurds after the first Gulf War?Possible, or perhaps he destroyed them. But then he sure fooled the rest of the world, including the UN, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Madeline Albright as well as George W. Bush.


yer right dr guy now if one just one from the left, while saying bush lied could at least say .. well saddam tricked everyone... left and right.. and we all fell for it.. I could at least get behind that... but the left just cannot say those words. and that is what pisses me off
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
QUOTE " I wonder what the left is going to say if a wmd is released here in america? UNQUOTE

They'll probably say "HOLD YOUR BREATH" ....

But didn't yer man ..... Colin Powell produce photographs of a "WMD" facility in Iraq - and when the USA and the "Coalition of the Willing" got to this facility all they found was a MacDonald's Burger Joint ???

If I was working in a MacDonald's Burger Joint I'd be worried if Americans came in and ordered a meal.........

Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top

But didn't yer man ..... Colin Powell produce photographs of a "WMD" facility in Iraq - and when the USA and the "Coalition of the Willing" got to this facility all they found was a MacDonald's Burger Joint ???

No, Colin Powell produced evidence they were there.  Apparently, and this is what I believe, Saddam hid the fact he had gotten rid of them (used or moved out of country) to hide the fact from his neighbors.  Without them, Iran would be less likely to not attack, or so his warped mind thought. 

He fooled us and everyone else.  When we went in, no one doubted they were there, and the inspectors could not find where he had destroyed them.  Like OBL, he underestimated Dubya and paid for that underestimation.

Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply #16 By: theknitter - 1/12/2005 6:08:03 PM
QUOTE " I wonder what the left is going to say if a wmd is released here in america? UNQUOTE

They'll probably say "HOLD YOUR BREATH" ....


lmaa thanx for the giggle...
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply #17 By: Dr. Guy - 1/12/2005 6:21:28 PM


He fooled us and everyone else. When we went in, no one doubted they were there, and the inspectors could not find where he had destroyed them. Like OBL, he underestimated Dubya and paid for that underestimation.


now if just one lefty would say that I could be content.
Reply #20 from PolMach Forums Top
all true and all good, still tho, why did not saddam just show and tell bout wmds? specially when the us military was poised on his doorstep.


the appearance of WMDs was Saddams only trump card, and it was a 3 of spades. They bought into a bluff with 1000 dead and over 10,000 wounded.
Reply #21 from PolMach Forums Top
come on whoman lighten up will ya ...no one likes war and I can see your point, bnut if this post of yours was seen by our troops imagine what they would feel.


Do you want him to lie?
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: whoman69Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2005all true and all good, still tho, why did not saddam just show and tell bout wmds? specially when the us military was poised on his doorstep.the appearance of WMDs was Saddams only trump card, and it was a 3 of spades. They bought into a bluff with 1000 dead and over 10,000 wounded.


come on whoman lighten up will ya ...no one likes war and I can see your point, bnut if this post of yours was seen by our troops imagine what they would feel.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: latour999Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2005come on whoman lighten up will ya ...no one likes war and I can see your point, bnut if this post of yours was seen by our troops imagine what they would feel.Do you want him to lie?


no latour I do not want him to ie or anyone lie for that matter.... I just want the whole truth, that the entire leftwing {the dems} thought the same exact thing bush did, THAT SADDAM HAD WMDS, how come NOT ONE OF YOU GUYS remember that? not one111 whatever happened to the dems that they are so perfect they never ever make a mistake....... its that attitude and the FACT not one dem appealed to me that made me switch parties, even tho I was registered dems since 1968....couples with the fact FACT that hanoi john kerry is a traitor and demeaned me and every vietnam vet in his 1971 speech to the congress.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
When people start throwing around names of other countries with WMD, they need to remember...

1) WMD was just one of the reasons given by Prs. Bush to go back into Iraq

and more importantly

2) None of the other nations brought up in this type of discussion continuously broke a ceasefire agreement with the U.S.

We took it seriously enough to turn over all occupied areas and assets of Iraq back to the Hussein regime and redeploy home.

The UN took it seriously enough (at least at first) to officially endorse it.

Apparently Hussein only took it seriously long enough for us to leave.

Last I checked, a broken ceasefire agreement has always been justification for a return to hostilities. If it isn't, then the ceasefire agreement isn't worth crap and we should never enter into them again.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply #1 By: Myrrander - 1/12/2005 12:29:00 PM
ah, well, a lot of the weapons inspectors from pre-1998 seem to think that those weapons were destroyed


I think the weapons inspectors are FU in the head. I mmean after all they didn't know about the upgraded 23 Iraqi high performance MIGS that were found buried in the sand now did they?