Bleeding hearts decry torture

from JoeUser Forums
While watching the news I am once again shocked to see how out of touch the left is with REALITY.

They demand we play fair with a group of people bent on the total destruction of America.

This is total bull dookey!!!!

Keeping a room hot is not torture..... remember these nut jobs live and fight in the freaking DESERT.

Keeping a room cold is not torture,.. these same nutjobs live in caves.. to hide so they can keep killing innocent people..

Playing music loud while very annoying {90 decibels} is not torture {unless its babs striesand singing}

Making a person stand in an uncomfortable position is NOT torture.

Putting a hood over someones head is scarey but is not torture.

We do worse to our own american peoples. the prisons of america...

I once again find myself asking what is it with the left that they cry for our enemies so loud.... for making them uncomfortable.

They {the enemy} has no compunction letting american wounds rot while holding them prisoners, beheading people publically. even tho these people are NOT combatants.

Killing a female aid worker, that so shocked the arab world that even aljazera a terroist news org would not show the tape of her killing.

NOw let me defang some of the leftwing bleeding hearts here before I catch some kinda disease from there bleeding all over my monitor.

I do not condone hooking someone genitals to a battery... Cutting there ears off..ramming sharp objects up there fingernails.. or any form of what really qualifies as torture.. Unlike what the germans and japaneese did to us military people in ww2 and the vietnameese did in viet nam war.

We are in a fight with a people that DO NOT GIVE A FLYING frell about playing by any rules .. why does the left insist we do??
please dont bleed all over by taking some kinda american supiority stance.....The we must show the world how good we are crap....

This is A WAR for survival... get it right and get it now before its too late...
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
even aljazera a terroist news org

Just because this service is presented in Arabic, is not American, does NOT make it terrorist.
Stop looking for trouble where it does not exist my friend!
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
I wouldn't speak about being out of touch with reality if i were you modman....You can't be serious.
If you think that those methods you listed are the most extreme interrogation tactics used, that's just naive.

The thing that seperates the USA from the rest of the world is the fact we don't sink to those levels during war for the most part. There have been glaring exceptions over the years, but overall we have respected basic human rights. Why do you think the Germans ran west during the closing days of WW2? Because they knew they wouldn't stand a snowballs chance in hell if they surrendered to the Soviets who were staunch advocates of torture for intel. We all know what happens to a brutal dictatorship in the end don't we? Didn't we go over to Iraq to stop Saddam for the same reasons? (besides all those WMD's laying around that is)

If Dubya would have put a little forethought into this war he would have sent enough troops to nip this in the bud, instead he declared a premature victory and the floodgates were opened for foreign terrorists to enter the country , basically at will to perpetrate thier terrorist actions.

The blame lies at the top, and torture can't make it even. Your guy blew it bigtime. The deaths caused by the terrorists are on his head. What we need to do is send more troops over there and finish them off once and for all.

Face it. Torture is UN-AMERICAN.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: ManopeacePosted: Friday, January 07, 2005even aljazera a terroist news org Just because this service is presented in Arabic, is not American, does NOT make it terrorist.Stop looking for trouble where it does not exist my friend!


gonna have to disagree with that opinion mano They help promote terroist activaties period....... thats why there banned in iraq ... for there obviousl support of terrorisim and anti american stances...
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005I wouldn't speak about being out of touch with reality if i were you modman....You can't be serious. If you think that those methods you listed are the most extreme interrogation tactics used, that's just naive.


since I accually fought in a war I DO KNOW WHAT GOES ON,,,, interagation wise... and while I condone what I said about those particular methods I do NOT condone real torture...

Now clean Up my screen here and get the blood off from your bleeding heart.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005


The thing that seperates the USA from the rest of the world is the fact we don't sink to those levels during war for the most part.


bullshit........ sorry to burst your bubble by we really get down and dirty as anyone does....
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ah, so by the gist of your article, the Right is Pro-torture?

You guys like torture?

8th ammendment doesn't mean shit? Hey, why not? The First ammendment doesn't mean much to the right either. As a matter of fact, the 2nd ammendment is the only one that the right really seems willing to defend. And, of course, the "fags bad, breeders good" ammendment president homophobe wants to pass. You'll prolly have that one tattooed on your upper arm.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
gonna have to disagree with that opinion mano


disagree you may...but you are wrong! They might very well be banned in Iraq, they are NOT banned in Israel or most other countries.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005


Dubya would have put a little forethought into this war he would have sent enough troops to nip this in the bud, instead he declared a premature victory and the floodgates were opened for foreign terrorists to enter the country , basically at will to perpetrate thier terrorist actions.The blame lies at the top, and torture can't make it even. Your guy blew it bigtime. The deaths caused by the terrorists are on his head. What we need to do is send more troops over there and finish them


yes by all means take this oppertunity to BASH BUSH good show ol chap..... typical leftwing lunacy strikes again.....
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: MyrranderPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005Ah, so by the gist of your article, the Right is Pro-torture?You guys like torture?8th ammendment doesn't mean shit? Hey, why not? The First ammendment doesn't mean much to the right either. As a matter of fact, the 2nd ammendment is the only one that the right really seems willing to defend. And, of course, the "fags bad, breeders good" ammendment president homophobe wants to pass. You'll prolly have that one tattooed on your upper arm.


ouch myrr..... read my post again word by word then tell me what I said in reality... not what you read into this k?
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
typical leftwing lunacy strikes again.....


stop already Mod...that's no way to argue!
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: ManopeacePosted: Friday, January 07, 2005gonna have to disagree with that opinion mano disagree you may...but you are wrong! They might very well be banned in Iraq, they are NOT banned in Israel or most other countries.


we are just going to have to AGREE TO DISAGREE ok??? I like you and respect your opinions but You are not gonna sway my opinion on this k?
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: ManopeacePosted: Friday, January 07, 2005typical leftwing lunacy strikes again.....stop already Mod...that's no way to argue!


nope the left takes any oppertunity to bash MY president and I am tired of it..
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
You are not gonna sway my opinion on this k?


Of course it is! 2 Jews=3 opinions
See you tomorrow... Shabbat Shalom Bro!
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
Mod is right and everybody else is wrong.

And what war did YOU fight in Mod...I'm curious? I grew up on military bases (Dad was a Line Officer 1st MEF) Gramps fought in the Pacific in WW2 I have seen what war can do. I have also seen what torture can do. Face it man, you are so out of touch here.

Just admit your guy blew it and we need to call in the cavlary to clean it up and finish them off. Because that's what it's gonna take to end this mess. Oh i forgot...The right doesn't make mistakes...My bad!
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Also, turnabout is fair play Mod...Same thing you said to Myr about reading what you want to see, but 180 it on yourself.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: ManopeacePosted: Friday, January 07, 2005You are not gonna sway my opinion on this k?Of course it is! 2 Jews=3 opinions See you tomorrow... Shabbat Shalom Bro!


big smile here be well stay safe today and everyday...
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005Mod is right and everybody else is wrong. And what war did YOU fight in Mod...I'm curious? I grew up on military bases (Dad was a Line Officer 1st MEF) Gramps fought in the Pacific in WW2 I have seen what war can do. I have also seen what torture can do. Face it man, you are so out of touch here.


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Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005Also, turnabout is fair play Mod...Same thing you said to Myr about reading what you want to see, but 180 it on yourself.


did not I said what I said and stated specific things I condone and things that I do not condone...
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005Mod is right and everybody else is wrong.


glad you see the errs of your way ... giggle giggle..... I do not think what anyone does is ALWAYS RIGHT bush made mistakes so did rumsfeld,,,,,,
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Semper Fi Mod I salute ya. But that don't mean i agree with ya...

What i meant was when you told Mod he was reading what he wanted to see. You did the same thing to my post.
We fight wars to WIN, not declare victory then fight pitched battles with the new enemy we let sneak in because we "won" the war and didn't need to stay vigilant. As a Vietnam era vet, you should know this. My dad served three tours in Vietnam, (in fact he was there the day i was born in 1968 during the Tet offensive.) He told me once that the only time you should fight a war is when you are fullly prepared to win. You fight it once or don't fight it at all. I hate to say it, but in a way i'm glad he's not around to see what is going on today.

Because our government appears to have learned nothing from that war. Even though the military claims otherwise.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005Semper Fi Mod I salute ya. But that don't mean i agree with ya... What i meant was when you told Mod he was reading what he wanted to see. You did the same thing to my post.We fight wars to WIN, not declare victory then fight pitched battles with the new enemy we let sneak in because we "won" the war and didn't need to stay vigilant. As a Vietnam era vet, you should know this. My dad served three tours in Vietnam, (in fact he was there the day i was born in 1968 during the Tet offensive.) He told me once that the only time you should fight a war is when you are fullly prepared to win. You fight it once or don't fight it at all. I hate to say it, but in a way i'm glad he's not around to see what is going on today.Because our government appears to have learned nothing from that war. Even though the military claims otherwise.


again gonna have to AGREE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU... I return the semper fidelis to ya... This is what america {freeworld} is about people disagreeing and exchanging ideas.... I love this kinda exchange,,,,, thank you for standing strong by what you believe.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top

Playing music loud while very annoying {90 decibels} is not torture {unless its babs striesand singing}

I heard it was a LOT worse!  They also played Barry Manilow!  I think that qualifies as cruel and unusual in itself!

Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
As a matter of fact, the 2nd ammendment is the only one that the right really seems willing to defend.


Of all the Amendments the second is certainly my favorite because, while I do love my brother, I do not unconditionally trust him to protect the individual from government overreaching.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
I gotta agree with Guy here....Isn't Manilow against the Geneva Convention?

Hit makes a good point too.

I always wanted to serve. But a blown left ACL and a bad surgery prevented me from joining.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005Playing music loud while very annoying {90 decibels} is not torture {unless its babs striesand singing}I heard it was a LOT worse! They also played Barry Manilow! I think that qualifies as cruel and unusual in itself!


Oh MY GOD now that should be against the geneva conv.... what horror , what cruelity.. I am shocked....