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More torture please, and more complaining about same please

More torture please, and more complaining about same please

With all of the fuss about Alberto Gonzales' nomination to be Attorney General, and the Democratic grilling that is going on now in Congress over it, I've reached that conclusion (it wasn't difficult at all) that former Sen. Zell Miller was right, Democrats, especially liberal ones, want us to fight wars with spit balls.

Personally, I'm disappointed we aren't applying more torture tactics in the on-going fight against terrorists.

The enemy in this fight is one that is fighting without rules. They're not constrained by standards of human decency, and they certainly aren't signatories to the Geneva conventions.

They can -- and do -- use and mis-use women, children and other seemingly innocent lives in their battle of hatred against all things U.S.A. related. They have no moral lines to worry about crossing, and they have no concern that others will be shocked or horrified at the measures they go to. Instead of being shocked or horrified, their target audiences are left cheering, with their morale boosted, because they know they are striking at us where it hurts, and we can do nothing in return because our moral values and standards of human decency won't allow us to.

Well, I say it's time to really toss off the chains and shackles we've put ourselves under. We should clearly and unequivocally state that we will use ANY AND ALL MEANS short of murder and whole dismemberment of any suspected terrorists that we may capture to obtain information about future terrorist activities and plans. We should make it clear that captured terrorist combatants may be detained permanently, without a right to access to the U.S. legal system, and during that period may have food and water withheld, may not be granted any special diet, may not other wise benefit from their period of being detained, and may literally lose a finger or hand if necessary in order that those digits and/or limb may be sent back to family members who will quickly spread word to the terrorist's compatriots that the U.S. means business in this fight, and we will stop at almost nothing in order to achieve success.

We need to raise the stakes, and show these terrorists that they are fighting a fight that they can't win. We need to convince them that if they behead a kidnapping victim that they very well may see a group of detainees losing their fingers and hands. We need to show them that they can be fed pork products until they are so unclean as to never be accepted by Allah.

Bad cop versus good cop. It's time to be bad cops that get the job done until such time as we can go back to being the good cops we normally are.

Finally, I really hope that we get more complaining about our use of torture tactics. I hope that Democrats continue to decry our tactics and try to tie our hands behind our backs. I hope they are shown to be the ones that would dis-arm at all cost, and allow us to be attacked again. As people wake up and see that these appeasers are dead-wrong and that their friends are neighbors may wind up dead because of it, it will continue to serve the purposes of the Republican party, and for that, I say thanks.
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Reply #26 Top
It is crying, whining, just make friends with them and they'll leave us alone people that let Adolph Hitler run throughout Europe, let Saddam Hussein and his regime rape, pillage and torture, and have let terrorists like (may he burn in Hell) Yassir Arafat ruin the chances for peace in the middle-east.


I didn't say make friends with them, I said maybe we should look to find the root of the problem. Adolf Hitler- Root of the Problem= He felt that the blonde hair blue eye race was superior, he admited this, further how could we be the root of the problem with saddam hussein torturing his own people. We are the root of the problem of terrorism against us howerver. Now I am not saying ok lets sit back and let it happen: NO, but we do need to show compassion and not play into the hands of the terrorist masterminds who want us to commit horrible acts like torturing people so they can recruit more matyrs.
Reply #27 Top
We are the root of the problem of terrorism against us howerver.


There is good reason that you can not prove this wild accusation: It is not true. The root of modern terrorism is no different from what causes rubbernecking at a car wreck. With terrorism you don't even need to go outside, you'll find it on prime time TV.

As Peter Jennings said when covering a hijacking incident: "They were at the center of the universe."

Likewise, take the quote from a leader of the Algerian FLN: "Is it better for our cause to kill ten of our enemies in a remote village where this will not cause comment, or kill one man in Algiers where the American press will get of the story the next day."

The Howard Dean & Michael Moore types wash their hands in the blood of many fallen heroes. With friends like you, who needs enemies?
Reply #28 Top
terpfan,
torture is wrong. Success at any cost is wrong. It's not political, it's just morally wrong.

Paul.