Start11 v2.06 Beta Feedback Thread

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With the Start11 v2.06 beta release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the beta:

Object Desktop members can get the beta from within Object Desktop Manager with 'show beta downloads' enabled:

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page:

https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

Reporting an issue:

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 v2 a better product.

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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top

Start11 2.06 Changelog (Released 02/28/2024)

02/28/2024

General release

  • Platforms

    • Stardock and Steam

02/26/2024

  • Version updated:
    UI: 2.06
    Start11Config: 2.0.6.4

  • Platforms: Stardock and Steam

Changes

  • A fix for the blank universal app icons when new accounts.  

  • Resolved issue with page not translating in all places

  • Resolved issue introduced in earlier betas when removing a universal app from the recent apps list on Win7/Modern menu styles

  • Win7/Modern menus use the old UWA popup menu for universal apps now, in10/Win11/App/Launcher/Pro menus use the new

  • New universal apps menu filtering tweaked slightly

  • Added registry key to hide > on Win7/Modern menus so jumplists do not show.  Create this in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8  called  S11_HideJumpListOnWin7ModernMenus = 1

  • Resolved overlapping tooltips on tray expansion when the taskbar is at the top of the screen on Windows 11

  • Resolved universal apps popup menu being empty sometimes

  • Removed incorrect right-click menu on universal apps list

Language Updates

02/21/2024

  • Version updated:
    UI: 2.06
    Start11Config: 2.0.6.3

  • Platforms

    • Stardock and Steam

Changes

  • Resolved '&' showing in the right-click file properties menu on some systems

  • Added translation support for (page 1) etc on pinned menu

  • Resolved software re-adding pinned items group when the page only contained read-only groups

  • Resolved extra All Apps link showing in certain edge case situations when using Win11/Win11 Pro/Launcher menu styles.

  • Resolved UK English showing on US installs incorrectly

  • Resolved issue with everything search results showing white text with Win7 menu style and dark taskbar with accent color used on the taskbar when using Start10 style search

  • Resolved issue with Start11 search mode for apps not being aware of accents.  This has been changed to match the rest of the search and all accents are now ignored entirely by default.  Creating the registry key S11_AlwaysStripAccentsInSearch and giving it a value of "0" will match accents but in a case-insensitive way now.

  • Resolves issue with an incorrect version of English appearing in the config menu.

Language Updates

02/15/2024

  • Version updated
    UI: 2.06
    Start11Config.exe 2.0.6.2

  • Platforms

    • Stardock and Steam

Changes

  • Resolve a crash on search when not using 3rd party Everything app

02/14/2024

Changes

  • Version updated
    UI: 2.06
    Start11Config.exe 2.0.6.1

  • Further tweak to sync pins logic to prevent constant syncing issues for some people.

  • Resolved issue with everything search results using Start10 style search when in dark mode having black text

  • Added support for TrafficMonitor taskbar integration when using an enhanced taskbar.  When using non-enhanced mode the taskbar buttons will go under it if the taskbar is full, this is a limitation in how that utility works on Windows 11 with or without Start11.  With an enhanced mode taskbar, this will not happen.

  • Adjusted combined taskbar buttons in Win10 style to stop the line at the bottom of multiple items merging together

  • Detects SAB handling taskbar and will disable all Start11 taskbar features to ensure compatibility

  • The last mouse-highlighted item on the start menu is correctly reset on the menu reopen now

  • Resolved wrong text color in some situations on mouseover of all programs list when very slightly off the selected folder

  • Resolved a small resource leak with tile images in some situations

  • Resolved some small potential memory leaks

  • Further tweaks to sync pins logic for triggering

  • Added option for autohide to reserve 1 pixel of screen space if people encounter issues

  • Removes improper shortcuts that were installed with Start11 2.05

    • ModernMix.lnk

    • Stardock Start11.lnk

Laguage Updates

02/09/2024

  • Version updated
    UI: 2.06
    Start11Config.exe 2.0.6.0

  • Beta released on Stardock and Steam

  • NEW * Added toggle for autohide on taskbar right-click menu

  • NEW * Added new option to set a tab as the default tab to show in a group regardless of the last tab open

  • NEW * Added universal apps, all apps, and steam apps as options for quick access shortcut menu links

  • Resolved issue with right-click menus on taskbar showing separators one menu item lower than it should

  • Added string registry key to disable the above HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8  S11_ShowAutoHideOnTaskbar = 1

  • Added string registry key to use Win32 menus on right click on the taskbar to allow third party extension of the menu. Use HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8    S11_UseOldRightClickMenus = 1

  • Resolved issue with some pinned items on Win10/11/Apps/Launcher/Pro menus not showing Jumplists when they can on right-click

  • Adjusted small mode taskbar to better position overlay icon

  • Adjusted small mode taskbar with Win10 style buttons to ensure the selection indicator line is always visible

  • Improved automatic detection of Touch mode taskbar

  • Resolved excess rounding of tile images when using Win10 style

  • Resolved alpha channel issue when resizing some tile images smaller

  • Resolved issue with some groups not correctly showing in the Pin to submenu

  • Improved drag & drop of icons in groups

  • Stopped read-only groups from allowing you to drag icons over each other when shift is held down

  • Option to open on all apps page now works on Windows Pro and Windows Launcher styles

  • Resolved "Use a custom menu background" option showing as disabled on open of config even when enabled

  • Resolved issue with custom accent color impacting Win10 item text on mouseover

  • Resolved issue with some custom accent colors causing invisible icons on mouseover on quick access shortcut list, all programs list folders, shutdown button

  • Windows 10 style more button links shown in search results now look like buttons matching the look on the other styles

  • Icons will now swap to dark options (where provided) when a custom accent colour is in use that requires it on mouseover

  • Resolved issue with taskbar shortcuts that have been deleted by the user or an uninstaller incorrectly (vs being unpinned) showing as unremovable white icons on the taskbar in enhanced taskbar mode.  The icons will now remain and they can be removed by right click unpin for all new cases and old ones will simply no longer show at all.

  • Swapping taskbar touch mode / not no longer requires an explorer restart

  • Resolved issue with custom menu background not correctly painting after menu swaps from one dpi screen to another

  • Stopped all apps list on Windows App style menu from taking mouse focus when a menu overlapped that window sometimes

  • Tweaked Start11 autohide mode to no longer reserve any space at the bottom of the screen.  This does mean the very bottom pixel of a maximized app isn't clickable, but this shouldn't be an issue as click targets should never be so small.

  • Tweaked overlay icon on taskbar buttons to be slightly bigger to match Windows 11 unless using small taskbar size

  • Resolved issue with taskbar thumbnail popups not always showing again after a primary monitor swap

  • Resolved issue with right-click menus on taskbar showing separators one menu item lower than it should

  • Added toggle for autohide on taskbar right-click menu

  • Added string registry key to disable the above HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8  S11_ShowAutoHideOnTaskbar = 1

  • Added string registry key to use Win32 menus on right-click on the taskbar to allow third-party extension of the menu. Use HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8    S11_UseOldRightClickMenus = 1

  • Resolved issue with some pinned items on Win10/11/Apps/Launcher/Pro menus not showing Jump lists when they can on right-click

  • Resolved hang issue when Win11/App/Pro/Launcher start menu has no groups that are not read only. This could have happened in other situations but this was the particular one found.

  • Resolved issue with Import settings on login Business edition feature not working correctly in all situations

  • Resolved issue with restore settings in config not telling Start11 to reload the groups if the menu mode was the same 

  • Also resolved an issue with the experimental load tile images option loading white images for apps like MS word etc.

Language localization updates

Chinese - Simplified:
https://github.com/StardockCorp/Stardock-Software-Localization/commit/d908c8e33bbd4c8b2715560c3250346496cd50cd

Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

Known issues

While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.

  • Some new lines have yet to be noted in the en.lng file, and thus, will also not have been translated.  This will be updated before release.
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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

***Reserved***

Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top

If anyone is using the force touch mode override for the taskbar, we would be very interested in hearing if going back to automatic now works perfectly.

Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top

  • NEW * Added new option to set a tab as the default tab to show in a group regardless of the last tab open

Thank you very much for this feature. :grin:  

This is so awesome! Works like a charm. :beer:  

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 

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Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting pelaird, reply 5

 


    • NEW * Added new option to set a tab as the default tab to show in a group regardless of the last tab open

 


Thank you very much for this feature. :grin:  

This is so awesome! Works like a charm. :beer:  

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 

I would also like to see a Default/pinned group. Groups that display on "All" pages. Would be nice for those of us who create a page for each desktop to have a group of links common  to all.

Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting sdrohan, reply 1

Tweaked Start11 autohide mode to no longer reserve any space at the bottom of the screen.  This does mean the very bottom pixel of a maximized app isn't clickable, but this shouldn't be an issue as click targets should never be so small.
This broke bringing the taskbar up from autohide when Microsoft Edge is maximized. This doesn't seem to be an issue with any other window but Microsoft Edge. It could also be a problem with other Chrome-like browsers, but I didn't test.

I've gone back to version 2.05 for the meantime until this issue is fixed.

Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

Subject:  Group Width for all styles, its only available on the windows 10 style

Hi there, 

For the start menu, I only see in the Windows 10 Style a Group Width option, but on all others not.

For full screen start menu's I assume it's not always assumable you want a full width for each group.

I miss here really the option to set a width in the group so you can craft your "blocks" and sets of icons.

or am I overlooking something here?

Thx

 

Reply #9 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting trparky, reply 7


Quoting sdrohan,
reply 1

Tweaked Start11 autohide mode to no longer reserve any space at the bottom of the screen.  This does mean the very bottom pixel of a maximized app isn't clickable, but this shouldn't be an issue as click targets should never be so small.

This broke bringing the taskbar up from autohide when Microsoft Edge is maximized. This doesn't seem to be an issue with any other window but Microsoft Edge. It could also be a problem with other Chrome-like browsers, but I didn't test.

I've gone back to version 2.05 for the meantime until this issue is fixed.

I just checked here and cannot reproduce this.  MS edge and Chrome both work just fine when it is maximized.

You are not using F11 fullscreen mode are you?

Reply #11 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Agonzanetta, reply 10

Hello,

Where can I find a download link of the v2.06 Beta, if i am no 'Object Desktop member'? 

It should be available under my downloads on your store account (store.stardock.com)

Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 9


Quoting trparky,
reply 7






Quoting sdrohan,

reply 1


Tweaked Start11 autohide mode to no longer reserve any space at the bottom of the screen.  This does mean the very bottom pixel of a maximized app isn't clickable, but this shouldn't be an issue as click targets should never be so small.

This broke bringing the taskbar up from autohide when Microsoft Edge is maximized. This doesn't seem to be an issue with any other window but Microsoft Edge. It could also be a problem with other Chrome-like browsers, but I didn't test.

I've gone back to version 2.05 for the meantime until this issue is fixed.



I just checked here and cannot reproduce this.  MS edge and Chrome both work just fine when it is maximized.

You are not using F11 fullscreen mode are you?

No, standard maximize mode; not full screen.

Reply #13 from Stardock Forums Top

  Hi -- I think I found a bug/annoyance in this beta version:

  • I am using Win 11 23H2
  • Start11 V.2.06 -- Windows Pro Style
  • When I click on the Start Button -- All Apps screen is shown (not as in previous version) See below:

  • Click on the the "Back" button, the normal menu comes back:

  Otherwise, so far no problem.

 

  Cheers

Reply #14 from Stardock Forums Top

  Hi Neil:

  Just want to add the Automatic Detection of Touch Screen is now working properly.  Bravo.

 

Reply #15 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting troispuits, reply 13

  Hi -- I think I found a bug/annoyance in this beta version:

 

    • I am using Win 11 23H2

 

    • Start11 V.2.06 -- Windows Pro Style

 

    • When I click on the Start Button -- All Apps screen is shown (not as in previous version) See below:

 

    • Click on the the "Back" button, the normal menu comes back:

 


  Otherwise, so far no problem.

 

  Cheers

Go to Start Menu > Configuration > Advanced options, an then turn off "Start menu should open showing all programs list."

Reply #16 from Stardock Forums Top

Steam quick access list is empty, do you need to do something to populate it?

Reply #17 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting djc5166, reply 16

Steam quick access list is empty, do you need to do something to populate it?

No, do you have any steam installed games?

Also do the universal apps and all apps ones work?

Reply #18 from Stardock Forums Top

Universal and all apps is populated, I have steam games installed, but my steam libraries are not on C:

Reply #19 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting djc5166, reply 18

Universal and all apps is populated, I have steam games installed, but my steam libraries are not on C:

Are those steam games being listed in the all apps list?

They have to have startmenu shortcuts created to show.

Also if you open the OS start menu are they in all apps there?

Reply #20 from Stardock Forums Top

Using the 2.06 beta through Steam, and I’m using the OldRightClickMenus registry tweak, and it seems to be working flawlessly! My thanks for including it!

Reply #23 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Putridumx, reply 22

Unable to translate "Recent documents" in start menu


Is the PC language set to English or something else?

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #24 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting sdrohan, reply 23

Is the PC language set to English or something else?

Looks like Polish to me, Sean.

Reply #25 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting sdrohan, reply 23


Quoting Putridumx,
reply 22

Unable to translate "Recent documents" in start menu



Is the PC language set to English or something else?

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

there are no "Recent documents" in all language files for example in Polish translation should be "Recent documents"="Ostatnie dokumenty", in english should be "Recent documents"="Recent documents" etc.