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Start11 2.03 Beta Feedback Thread

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Start11 2.03 Beta Feedback Thread

November 13, 2023 6:03 PM from

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With the Start11 2.03 beta release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.

Obtaining the beta:

Object Desktop members can get the beta from within Object Desktop Manager with 'show beta downloads' enabled:

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page:

https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

Reporting an issue:

Please include the following for anything found:

Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)
Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen
Screenshots and videos are very helpful. Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post. Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.
If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions. If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Software Beta Template Changelogs (hidden)

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 v2 a better product.

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Reply #76 November 18, 2023 1:30 PM from

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Quoting pelaird, reply 65

Did this get fixed as well?

Added the Registry String S11_MenuMode; tried all the values (0,1,2) with no change in the context menus.

(Tried both restarting Explorer and Restating the computer.)

pelaird

Windows 11 Pro - 22635.2700; Start11 Beta - 2.0.1.1

EDIT: Tested and it still doesn't work in 2.0.2.0

Sorry this is because of an error in the change log. The correct name is S11_MenuStyle not S11_MenuMode.

Reply #77 November 18, 2023 1:36 PM from

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Quoting Neil, reply 76

Quoting pelaird,

reply 65

Did this get fixed as well?

Added the Registry String S11_MenuMode; tried all the values (0,1,2) with no change in the context menus.

(Tried both restarting Explorer and Restating the computer.)

pelaird

Windows 11 Pro - 22635.2700; Start11 Beta - 2.0.1.1

EDIT: Tested and it still doesn't work in 2.0.2.0

Sorry this is because of an error in the change log. The correct name is S11_MenuStyle not S11_MenuMode.

Great! Works now. Probably a good idea to correct the changelog.

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Reply #78 November 18, 2023 1:46 PM from

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Quoting Neil, reply 76

Quoting pelaird,

reply 65

Did this get fixed as well?

Added the Registry String S11_MenuMode; tried all the values (0,1,2) with no change in the context menus.

(Tried both restarting Explorer and Restating the computer.)

pelaird

Windows 11 Pro - 22635.2700; Start11 Beta - 2.0.1.1

EDIT: Tested and it still doesn't work in 2.0.2.0

Sorry this is because of an error in the change log. The correct name is S11_MenuStyle not S11_MenuMode.

Not really seeing any difference between 0 and 2. What exactly should we expect from colour tinted translucent menus?

Never mind: I figured it out with help from PhoenixRising1

Reply #79 November 19, 2023 4:48 AM from

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Quoting basj, reply 69

Quoting CardcaptorRLH85,

reply 68

I don't see anyone else with the issue I'm having right now. For some reason, all Windows system icons on my taskbar (the default Windows Start button [when I have that chosen], the Task View button, and the entire System Tray) are centered at zero height. Also, some of my other icons get strangely doubled. I'm attaching a picture to show you what I mean.

I'm running beta 2.0.2 on Windows 11 23H2 (build 22631.2715).

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Please try this, uninstall Start11, reboot immediately after uninstall finished. Redownload Start11 v2.02 Beta, install it. Reboot again, retest and report back.

Thanks
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

This has solved my issue. However, I realize that I'd forgotten to mention that I also had this problem on the original release of Start11 v2 after I performed an in-place upgrade from Start11 1.4. Just in case that helps you guys keep this from happening to anyone else.

Reply #80 November 19, 2023 5:54 AM from

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Hallo Stardock Team,

ich wüßte gerne, bis wann die deutschen Übersetzungen/Sprache komplett in Start11 v. 2.0 umgesetzt sein wird - danke.

Ansonsten gefällt mir das neue Start11 v. 2.0 sehr gut !

Horst (HoWo)

Google Translation :

Hello Stardock team,

I would like to know by when the German translations/language will be completely in Start11 v. 2.0 will be implemented - thank you.

Otherwise I like the new Start11 v. 2.0 very good!

Horst (HoWo)

Reply #81 November 19, 2023 8:02 AM from

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Taskbar crashes and missing icons:

I've been using the previous Start11 V2 versions for awhile now on multiple computers; however, the current V2.02 Beta causes issues. I'm using Windows Server 2022(Basically Windows 10). When logging into to the computers where installed and the applications are being loaded with some populating the taskbar with icons in the right hand corner, I get screen flashes and the taskbar is wiped of icons several times during initial start of the desktop.

The end result is that once finished many of the normal taskbar icons are missing.

As an update I also experience background flashes during file operations which results in the open windows no longer updating contents.

Reply #82 November 19, 2023 11:22 AM from

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Quoting bryanzim, reply 81

Taskbar crashes and missing icons:

I've been using the previous Start11 V2 versions for awhile now on multiple computers; however, the current V2.02 Beta causes issues. I'm using Windows Server 2022(Basically Windows 10). When logging into to the computers where installed and the applications are being loaded with some populating the taskbar with icons in the right hand corner, I get screen flashes and the taskbar is wiped of icons several times during initial start of the desktop.

The end result is that once finished many of the normal taskbar icons are missing.

As an update I also experience background flashes during file operations which results in the open windows no longer updating contents.

That's not good.

If you check event log is there anything in there?

Also if you are able to get a dmp file from a crash that would be ideal.

Edit: also what menu style are you using?

Reply #83 November 19, 2023 1:07 PM from

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I've just seen you can play with reg value for Y offset and rounded radius noice Big bar , big radius big Y offset auto hide 🤩

Reply #84 November 20, 2023 2:13 AM from

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After an Update today and a restart Start 11 crashes every 2nd time I want to change an icon.

Still did not get 23H2.

Reply #85 November 20, 2023 6:07 AM from

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Quoting c242, reply 84

After an Update today and a restart Start 11 crashes every 2nd time I want to change an icon.

Still did not get 23H2.

I had a bad experience with ver 2.02 when I first installed it. I lost all of my icons when trying to move things around. I reinstalled 2.01 (2.0.1.1) over 2.02 (2.0.2.0) and did a restart. Everything was back and working fine. I then reinstalled 2.02 over 2.01 and did a restart. I haven't had anymore problems since.

I don't know if it's because you are in Germany, but the latest release version for Windows 11 22H2 is 22621.2715 which was released on November 14, 2023.

In order to get 23H2, You have to turn on the following. (You might have to update to 22621.2715 before this is displayed.)

Reply #86 November 20, 2023 6:19 AM from

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Quoting c242, reply 84

After an Update today and a restart Start 11 crashes every 2nd time I want to change an icon.

Still did not get 23H2.

Thats not good.

Are you able to get a dmp file from this crash?

Also which menu style are you using?

Reply #87 November 20, 2023 7:32 AM from

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Quoting HoWo, reply 80

Hallo Stardock Team,

ich wüßte gerne, bis wann die deutschen Übersetzungen/Sprache komplett in Start11 v. 2.0 umgesetzt sein wird - danke.

Ansonsten gefällt mir das neue Start11 v. 2.0 sehr gut !

Horst (HoWo)

Google Translation :

Hello Stardock team,

I would like to know by when the German translations/language will be completely in Start11 v. 2.0 will be implemented - thank you.

Otherwise I like the new Start11 v. 2.0 very good!

Horst (HoWo)

Hi,

bekomme ich denn keine Antwort ??

Horst (HoWo)

Translation :

Hi,

Am I not getting an answer ??

Horst (HoWo)

Reply #88 November 20, 2023 8:31 AM from

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Here is one of the crashes in the event viewer:

Log Name:      Application
Source:        Application Error
Date:          11/20/2023 8:08:47 AM
Event ID:      1000
Task Category: (100)
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Description:
Faulting application name: explorer.exe, version: 10.0.20348.1970, time stamp: 0xce4b8266
Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 10.0.20348.2031, time stamp: 0x7077fc45
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0000000000019daa
Faulting process id: 0x4164
Faulting application start time: 0x01da1bb2aeb48a0c
Faulting application path: C:\Windows\explorer.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
Report Id: 125fb12b-6147-4166-bd6d-9f3b75ae7119
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<EventData>
    <Data>explorer.exe</Data>
    <Data>10.0.20348.1970</Data>
    <Data>ce4b8266</Data>
    <Data>ntdll.dll</Data>
    <Data>10.0.20348.2031</Data>
    <Data>7077fc45</Data>
    <Data>c0000005</Data>
    <Data>0000000000019daa</Data>
    <Data>4164</Data>
    <Data>01da1bb2aeb48a0c</Data>
    <Data>C:\Windows\explorer.exe</Data>
    <Data>C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll</Data>
    <Data>125fb12b-6147-4166-bd6d-9f3b75ae7119</Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

I am running Modern Style with Icons.

Reply #89 November 20, 2023 9:07 AM from

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I have a dump log also but would need a place to upload since is about 900 MB.

Reply #90 November 20, 2023 9:16 AM from

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Quoting bryanzim, reply 89

I have a dump log also but would need a place to upload since is about 900 MB.

You would upload it to a cloud drive service of your choice (OneDrive, GoogleDrive, DropBox, etc) and post a shared link here

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #91 November 20, 2023 9:20 AM from

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Quoting Neil, reply 76

Sorry this is because of an error in the change log. The correct name is S11_MenuStyle not S11_MenuMode.

I have updated the CL...

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #92 November 20, 2023 9:34 AM from

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Dump no longer needed.

Reply #93 November 20, 2023 12:43 PM from

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There is a serious issue with "Refresh icons" on the Start11 menu right click menu in version 2.02

See this post: https://forums.stardock.com/524181/page/1/#3911297

Reply #94 November 20, 2023 12:56 PM from

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I am little on time at the moment, I am back to 2.01.

Reply #95 November 20, 2023 4:33 PM from

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All,

Start11 v2 Beta has been updated to 2.03:

https://forums.stardock.com/524001/get;3910016

As always, thank you for your time, feedback, and support

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #96 November 20, 2023 4:57 PM from

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Quoting pelaird, reply 93

There is a serious issue with "Refresh icons" on the Start11 menu right click menu in version 2.02

See this post: https://forums.stardock.com/524181/page/1/#3911297

This issue appears to be fixed in the 2.03 (2.0.3.0) Beta version.

Reply #97 November 20, 2023 4:59 PM from

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Quoting PhoenixRising1, reply 66

with newly released 2.02 My icons disappear (becoming completely blank) often as I make changes to the start menu.

With 2.03 So far so good. My icons have have not turned invisible while making modifications. I will post if this changes

Reply #98 November 20, 2023 10:48 PM from

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I had a similar problem. Uninstalling ExplorerPatcher seems to have fixed it.

Reply #99 November 21, 2023 4:05 AM from

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I can't remove apps from the "Suggested" or "Recently installed" sections, there's only "hide from apps" option but it's not what I want

Reply #100 November 21, 2023 4:26 AM from

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Quoting sdrohan, reply 91

Quoting Neil Banfield,

reply 76

Sorry this is because of an error in the change log. The correct name is S11_MenuStyle not S11_MenuMode.

I have updated the CL...

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

The Change Log for 11/13 still reads:

Added a new registry key to control the right-click menu style on Windows 11. It is called "S11_MenuMode" and it has 3 options. 0 = translucent menus, 1 = solid menus, 2 = colour tinted translucent menus

I even cleared the cache in my browser to make sure it wasn't a cached image.

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