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Start11 v2.0 Release Feedback Thread

Start11 v2.0 Release Feedback Thread

With the Start11 v2.0 release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the product

Object Desktop members can get the release from within Object Desktop Manager 

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

For guest check-out purchase (no account), from this link: http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 2.0 a better product.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

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Reply #26 Top

Quoting santtos_alex, reply 25

Hello

I bought some month ago Start 11 version 1.4 and now after the update my license is not recognized.
Can I ask why ?

Because licenses are for the version you purchased.  So a 1.x license works for all 1.x versions, a 2.x license works for all 2.x versions.

There is an upgrade discount available for previous owners if you wish to upgrade.

Reply #27 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 18


Quoting DrJBHL,



Quoting Neil Banfield,




Quoting DrJBHL,






Absolutely love it. Venturing a suggestion...add the ability to color groups with gradients. :)



You can create a png image and use that as the background.  If you turn off the autotinting the colours will remain as they were in the file.



Wow! I meant a gradient in a tab or a group, not the whole start menu...sorry I didn't specify. If it helps, I was referring to the images here https://forums.wincustomize.com/523617/page/2/#3909237 and making them similar to the wall by adni18. On a separate note, the app is evolving beautifully. :thumbsup:  

 

You can set an image on a tab or a group,  It is called background texture under the group appearance menu.

I'm learning something new every day about Start11v2. The Dev's have really outdone themselves on this one. For the life of me, I can't understand why there are so many complaints about having to pay for this UPGRADE!

Love it! Love it! Love it!

Reply #29 Top

Quoting santtos_alex, reply 28

Well... I can understand a new license like from Start10 to Start11, but from 1.x to 2.x is now nice.
Thanks for the answer

It really is a massive upgrade if that helps.  More in fact than between Start10 and Start 11.

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Reply #30 Top

For those who are hung up on the naming convention of the product and confusing UPDATE with UPGRADE, no one is forcing you to pay for this UPGRADE! If you don't want to UPGRADE, just stick with version 1. As Neil said, this is a massive UPGRADE, and in my opinion, it is very underpriced for what you get.

Reply #32 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 29

It really is a massive upgrade if that helps.  More in fact than between Start10 and Start 11.

I personally find the extensions in v2 really comprehensive, which easily justifies a new licence price for this new major version. Especially as this is really very low and (fortunately) not a monthly licence fee!

 

So thank you very much for organising this in this way. I was happy to be able to pay for a new one-time licence because it also gave me more important functions (e.g. backup my settings).

Reply #33 Top

Quoting santtos_alex, reply 25

Hello

I bought some months ago Start 11 version 1.4 and now after the update my license is not recognized.
Can I ask why ?

Because it's a new product (that's why it's called Start11 v2.0).
In order to use it, you'll have to upgrade:

https://www.stardock.com/products/start11/

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Reply #34 Top

Quoting pelaird, reply 27

For the life of me, I can't understand why there are so many complaints about having to pay for this UPGRADE!

Love it! Love it! Love it!

Despite all evidence to the contrary there is still a hard core that believes that everything on the internet should be free, that if you paid for whatever in the past you never have to pay again no matter how it's changed, that there really is such a thing as a free lunch and that whatever it is, it's always someone else's job. ;)

Reply #35 Top

Just discovered an oddity with 2.0.0.6. If you hover over a shortcut on the Start11 menu (Windows 10 Style) until the name of the shortcut appears, and then click the shortcut, the name stays on the screen after the Start11 menu closes until you move your mouse over the app or window that opens.

Short Video: https://1drv.ms/v/s!AlPnZU3br_UOiIsJifsIZo6Pym6eHQ?e=QPYd7C

pelaird

EDIT 11/12/2023: Fixed in 2.0.1.0; Thanks to the Dev's!

Reply #36 Top

Quoting XPERIANCE620, reply 10

Start11 v2.0 Menu is always transparent on my Windows 10 (10.0.19045.3636):

Startmenu

If I set transparency too 100% or 11 % it doesn't change at all:

Transparency 100%

If I enable Mica Startmenu is solid:

Mica Enabled


If I disable Mica then the startmenu is for one time in the correct transparency settings:
Mica disabled, 1 time startmenu shows correct transparency

On the further attempts to open the startmenu it stays like in the first picture. Only switching between Mica on / off shows for one time the correct startmenu.

I had reinstalled Start11 v2 already and used the full removal batch script. Then I rebooted before the reinstall but the behavior doesn't change. Furthermore I use Curtains for Windows theming.

Have you disabled OS transparency settings?

Reply #37 Top

Quoting santtos_alex, reply 25

Hello

I bought some months ago Start 11 version 1.4 and now after the update my license is not recognized.
Can I ask why ?


Hi,

Du brauchst eine neue Lizenz, da  Start 11 v.2.0  eine neue, eigenständige Version ist.

Du kannst höchstens beim Support nachfragen, ob Du eine kostenlose Lizenz bekommst, da Du erst vor kurzem eine Lizenz erworben hast. Wenn das noch nicht lange her ist, könntest Du Glück haben.

Gruß und viel Erfolg,
Horst

Google Translation :

Hi,

You need a new license because start 11 V.2.0 is a new, independent version.

You can at most ask the support whether you get a free license because you have only recently acquired a license. If that wasn't long ago, you could be lucky.

Greetings and good luck,
Horst

Reply #38 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 36

Have you disabled OS transparency settings?

Transparency effects are on in Windows Settings -> Personalization -> Colors -> Transparency effects.

And this problem didn't exist on the latest Start11 v1.

Reply #39 Top

In Object Desktop, I'm now showing both V1 and V2 are installed.  What would be the safe way of uninstalling V1 at this point. I'm just concerned that uninstalling V1 might yank the rug out from under V2 in terms of settings and content.

 

Reply #40 Top

Quoting djMot, reply 39

In Object Desktop, I'm now showing both V1 and V2 are installed.  What would be the safe way of uninstalling V1 at this point. I'm just concerned that uninstalling V1 might yank the rug out from under V2 in terms of settings and content.

 

They share the same directory so I wouldn't worry about it.  Leave it as is.

Reply #41 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 40


Quoting djMot,

In Object Desktop, I'm now showing both V1 and V2 are installed.  What would be the safe way of uninstalling V1 at this point. I'm just concerned that uninstalling V1 might yank the rug out from under V2 in terms of settings and content.

 



They share the same directory so I wouldn't worry about it.  Leave it as is.

Okay, so I guess that confirms the settings and content conflict between the two.  For as much as I am okay with just leaving something be, you just know someone in the same position will end up uninstalling without asking first and lose all their hard work in setting up V1 and V2.  Maybe planning ahead for these kinds of frustrations wouldn't be such a bad idea?

Reply #42 Top

Windows 11 23H2 Deutsch Neueste ISO von Microsoft heruntergeladen neu installiert Es funktioniert einfach nicht Start11 v2 mit der neuen Taskleiste und der neuesten Microsoft-Version Deutschland

Reply #43 Top

Quoting TheDukest, reply 8

I'm gonna retry the update procedure tonight. It happens with rounded border yeah. Didn't test it on the not rounded one. Hope the release version is based on pixel and not screen height 

The issue seems to be on a secondary monitor.  It isn't a screen height thing, it is purely the secondary isn't doing things correctly when rounded mode is off.

Will be fixed in the next update, thanks for letting us know.

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Reply #44 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 43


Quoting TheDukest,

I'm gonna retry the update procedure tonight. It happens with rounded border yeah. Didn't test it on the not rounded one. Hope the release version is based on pixel and not screen height 



The issue seems to be on a secondary monitor.  It isn't a screen height thing, it is purely the secondary isn't doing things correctly when rounded mode is off.

Will be fixed in the next update, thanks for letting us know.

https://forums.stardock.com/523854/get;3909218

Is this similar to what I described here? This sounds like its related.

Reply #45 Top

Quoting RSRAZOR, reply 42

windows 11 23h2 german latest iso downloaded from microsoft reinstalled it just doesn't work start11 v2 with the new taskbar and the latest microsoft version germany

I also have the German Win 23H2 (10.0.22631.2506) and even a version higher than the ISO. I cannot confirm the problem, Start11 v2 2.0.0.6 runs smoothly except for the minor bugs mentioned in the forum.

Reply #46 Top

Hi all! I bought Start11 v1, but I didn't use it since I was not satisfied because of some lacks and problems.

Now, Start11 v2 works very well and looks pretty nice, but I want to report a problem related to the animations.

I noticed this problem with Start11 v1. I notice it continues / persists also with Start11 v2 and it seems no one saw it.

The taskbar items has a really bad flickering animation during restore and minimizing state by mouse clicking.

I recorded a video at 60 FPS, but my laptop screen is 144 FPS, so the flickering is more bad on 144 FPS.

On the first video part I presented the good animation that only exists because the mouse cursor is not involved in this action, then, secondly the bad flickering caused by mouse click on the item from taskbar.

https://youtu.be/pBSDKWGLNOM

System info: Edition: Windows 11 Home, Version: 22H2, OS Build: 22621.2506, Experience: Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22677.1000.0 - SSD: 500 GB, Video card: RTX 2060 Mobile.

Reply #47 Top

Quoting Georgian_RO, reply 46

Hi all! I bought Start11 v1, but I didn't use it since I was not satisfied because of some lacks and problems.

Now, Start11 v2 works very well and looks pretty nice, but I want to report a problem related to the animations.

I noticed this problem with Start11 v1. I notice it continues / persists also with Start11 v2 and it seems no one saw it.

The taskbar items has a really bad flickering animation during restore and minimizing state by mouse clicking.

I recorded a video at 60 FPS, but my laptop screen is 144 FPS, so the flickering is more bad on 144 FPS.

On the first video part I presented the good animation that only exists because the mouse cursor is not involved in this action, then, secondly the bad flickering caused by mouse click on the item from taskbar.

https://youtu.be/pBSDKWGLNOM

System info: Edition: Windows 11 Home, Version: 22H2, OS Build: 22621.2506, Experience: Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22677.1000.0 - SSD: 500 GB, Video card: RTX 2060 Mobile.

I suspect thats being caused by the mouse state changing.  We will investigate.

Reply #48 Top

Many thanks, Neil Banfield for taking in account this problem. I would like to add another thing. It's a suggestion for the start menu. If the mouse cursor is over the edge on the menu, the user can resize the menu. This is a cool idea, but sometimes I accidentally resized it. I recommend to switch / hide this feature by lock menu / unclock menu.

Reply #50 Top

First of all, it's awesome to have the Taskbar pins / Pin folder menu option! That's exactly what I've been missing since migrating to Win11.

I upgraded to v2 last night after reading this feature was part of the release and started trying this feature out today and it works great!

Only thing I'm noticing is there is no 'Right-Click' menu for the created folder icons in the Taskbar. Would be great to change the icon or add a name to keep track of what the various folder menus are.

Thanks!

 

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