Start11 v2.0 Release Feedback Thread

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With the Start11 v2.0 release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

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Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 2.0 a better product.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top

Start11 2.0.6 Changelog (Released 11/08/2023)


11/08/2023

  • Release UI version 2.0 (Start11Config.exe version 2.0.0.6)

  • Resolves crash issue with launching apps from submenus on pinned taskbar items

  • Resolved issue with adding a folder as a group / tab causing a 30 second hang

  • Resolved issue with very slow Start11 configuration window when using ExplorerPatcher

  • Resolved issue with wrong icon showing when you have a pending update in the shutdown menu

  • Resolved potential crash issue after launching an application from the start menu

  • Resolved the non WinX menu animating down when right clicked on the start button instead of up

  • Tweaked DisplayFusion detection for their secondary monitor taskbars

  • Stopped FancyZones dragging window being detected as a fullscreen application for taskbar state

  • Stopped Microsoft XBox gaming overlay being detected as a fullscreen application for taskbar state

  • Added registry keys to replace the displayed username or mask the user picture.  These are S11_MaskUserIcon set to 1 (REG_SZ value) and S11_OverrideUserName set to whatever you want the new name to be.  These are stored in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8

  • Resolved issue with pinned folders not working if they were filtered folders instead showing access denied
    11) Changed icon on Start11_64.exe

  • Fixed installer issue where PinMenu.exe shortcut was created in All Programs \ Stardock (confusing that it was the main exe).

  • Resolved standard Win11 start button being clipped when using some rounded taskbar horizontal offsets - Needs enhanced taskbar enabled

  • Added in support for some lang strings it was not loading up on the menu

  • Speeded-up animations for right-click menus

  • Clicking between the shutdown and sign-out menu should now work

  • Initial import of Win11 pinned menu items now handles pinned websites correctly rather than making lots of MS Edge shortcuts

  • Resolved issue with rounded taskbar causing painting problems with left/right taskbars on Windows 10.  Rounded mode only supports horizontal taskbar

  • Resolved issue changing between non-max to maxed state not changing rounded taskbar state unless another setting was also changed

  • Resolved Windows App style image in config appearing darker than other thumbnails

  • Removed beta text from UI

  • Tweaked center taskbar on Win10 logic

  • Resolved white bar on the start button page

  • Added translucency to right-click menus when on Windows 11 when not using a skin that skins them

  • Resolved menus which should animate upwards animating down instead when too big for the screen

  • Resolved sign out menu overlapping sign-out button when using Win11 style menu with a taskbar at the top of the screen

  • Resolved/reduced custom start button clipping when using rounded taskbar horizontal offsets

11/06/2023

  • Start11Config.exe 2.0.0.5

  • Resolved issue with blur state on maximized windows not overriding to off correctly

  • Enhanced options for rounded taskbar and moved to their own section to avoid UI clutter

  • Resolved issue on Win11 when clicking parts of the config UI to bring it to the top not working

  • Fix painting of restart explorer button thats painting white corners on Win11 incorrectly

  • Resolved issue with not being able to resize the taskbar when using Win10 style buttons on Win11

  • Adjusted settings reload logic to prevent overlapped reloads

  • Added prompts for explorer restarts for features which need it

  • Some UI tidy up

  • Resolved issue with Enhanced mode autohide on Windows 11 not always resetting maximized window area

  • Resolved issue with Win10 style menus incorrectly picking the Windows 11 style text positioning for items in tabbed groups

  • Resolved issue with all apps list not always refreshing when apps were installed or uninstalled

  • Reduced frequency of reloading main menu contents when changes are made to things which are not on the menus

  • Resolved issue with changes to fences causing a refresh of the Start11 menu when there are no fences on the pages

  • Resolved issue with recent documents not showing

  • Resolved issue with some folders not showing contents as a pinned group

  • Resolved a memory and resource leak caused by right click menus

  • Resolved issue with rapid opening of the right click taskbar menu causing actions to happen more than once if selected

  • Resolved reset button for rounded corners settings not resetting correctly

  • Resolved vertically centre taskbar buttons causing a shift when using rounded taskbar buttons

  • Resolved issue with custom colour button in UI being enabled after toggling use Mica effect checkbox incorrectly sometimes

  • Resolved issue caused by new rounded corners mode which caused a looping issue when a fullscreen non maximized window was open

  • Removed double prompt for deletion from a popup folder menu

11/03/2023

  • Config now correctly paints left-hand icons when in dark mode

  • Resolved issue with alpha on maximized mode taskbar not saving correctly

  • Resolved issue with Win10 style button progress bars not painting correctly

  • Added option to make taskbar button backgrounds more solid, ideal for when using very transparent taskbar

  • Tweaked rounded corners on client area content of configuration window

  • Added options to control the rounded taskbar radius and offsets from screen borders

  • Resolved issue with disabling autohide in Start11 config not turning it off

  • Resolved issue with Start11 autohide mode not working with rounded taskbar correctly

  • Added animations to the rounded taskbar

  • Resolved being unable to use the delete option from taskbar popup menus

  • Filtered folders no longer take full path into consideration when filtering 

  • Resolved issue with dark icons being inverted incorrectly when on a dark background

  • Resolved issue with rounded TB going away when not using Enhanced taskbar in S11

  • Resolved issue with toggling Win10/Win11 style taskbar buttons needing an explorer restart.  
    Note: The progress bars on this are still painting as a line rather than a full background, this should be fixed next build.

  • Resolved issue with launching task manager from the taskbar menu locking up the taskbar initially

  • Added new Windows 10 style taskbar buttons

  • Added mode to always combine pinned items but unpin everything else until there is no space

  • Added extra large taskbar mode

  • Added font face and size override control to taskbar

  • Added options to hide the start button on the primary and secondary monitors when on Win11 with enhanced Taskbar enabled

  • Added options to control if a pinned item should show on all monitors, just the primary, just the secondary or automatic based on OS setting

  • Added Start11 autohide mode.  Requires Win11 22H2 or later

  • Added new options to control blur, color, rounded corners, and transparency of the taskbar when maximized window vs normal state

  • Shadow text tweaked to improve visuals

  • Resolved the issue of not being able to view the hidden items list for All apps on the Win10 and Win App style menus

  • Resolved issue with Win11 not saving the correct virtual desktop page for opening a page when on a specified virtual desktop

  • Resolved issue with open menu on this page for current desktop menu item not always showing on all menus (bar Win7/Modern which do not have pages)

  • Tweaked painting of page picker icons as current page one would sometimes paint incorrectly

  • Resolved issue with folder icons not painting an icon when in align left mode

  • Resolved issue with being unable to resize Win Pro menu from right hand side when using narrow mode

  • Resolved issue with hiding recent apps not sticking after restart for Win Launcher/Pro/Apps menu styles

  • Resolved issue with a right click on the top taskbar causing the menu to appear partially offscreen

  • Resolved issue with new search box for apps in some styles not scaling font correctly in mixed dpi setups

  • Resolved issue with inverted text colour on a tabbed group also applying to + and filter icons in the group header

  • Resolved issue with missing color palette choice when clicking on appearance menu link rather than opening via mouseover

  • Adjusted text shadows so DPI is taken into account

  • Added UI option to override Start11 detection of the touch mode taskbar in Win11 22H2 and later should the taskbar contents be misaligned

Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

Known issues

While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.

  • Language localizations are not yet complete
  • The rounded taskbar might have some issues with original Win11 for multiline taskbar and we are still investigating the flicker of system tray icons when using the experimental center mode
Fences - Organize your desktop icons today!
Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

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Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top

The auto hide feature seem to use a % of the screen height for detection  instead of  pixel , its a problem since on my 4k monitor (43 inch at 100% scaling ) the task bar show up when the mouse is high so the feature is completely useless since I cant access the bottom part or the app .  

 this is where the task bar show on my 4k monitor and 

 

 where it detect on my 1920x1200 monitor ( scaling 125% )

 

 version of start 11 

Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

Thanks for the FancyZones tweak, and great job on the context menus!

Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting TheDukest, reply 5

The auto hide feature seem to use a % of the screen height for detection  instead of  pixel , its a problem since on my 4k monitor (43 inch at 100% scaling ) the task bar show up when the mouse is high so the feature is completely useless since I cant access the bottom part or the app .  

 this is where the task bar show on my 4k monitor and 

 

 where it detect on my 1920x1200 monitor ( scaling 125% )

 

 version of start 11 


Are you using the rounded taskbar mode?

Also you seen to be using an older version of Start11 so I would recommend an update too to the release version.

Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

I'm gonna retry the update procedure tonight. It happens with rounded border yeah. Didn't test it on the not rounded one. Hope the release version is based on pixel and not screen height 

Reply #9 from Stardock Forums Top

I just downloaded Start11 v2.0 to try the new rounded taskbar feature. I have Windows 11 Pro 23H2 and I use auto-hide taskbar, but was disappointed to find rounding doesn't work whatsoever in that mode 😞 Will this be corrected?

Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top

Start11 v2.0 Menu is always transparent on my Windows 10 (10.0.19045.3636):

Startmenu

If I set transparency too 100% or 11 % it doesn't change at all:

Transparency 100%

If I enable Mica Startmenu is solid:

Mica Enabled


If I disable Mica then the startmenu is for one time in the correct transparency settings:
Mica disabled, 1 time startmenu shows correct transparency

On the further attempts to open the startmenu it stays like in the first picture. Only switching between Mica on / off shows for one time the correct startmenu.

I had reinstalled Start11 v2 already and used the full removal batch script. Then I rebooted before the reinstall but the behavior doesn't change. Furthermore I use Curtains for Windows theming.

Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top

While I have witnessed the following issues on my primary Windows PC (Version 10.0.22635.2700 - Yes Beta), I have also witnessed these very same issues on my work machine which is running 22631.2506 (Non-beta):  (None of these issues are using the rounded taskbar.)

- Opening the start menu causes the taskbar to flash; however only when there aren't any additional windows on the screen.  (I tried with different menu styles, however it was consistent.)

- Sometimes when closing the start menu (usually after opening/closing in rapid succession), the start menu collapses in front of the taskbar.

- When using the snipping tool, after taking a screenshot, the snipping tool hides, however if you re-run it, it re-opens and the picture that you snipped is in the window.  (I thought this was a Windows bug and ignored it for the last year, however after uninstalling Start 11, I found the snipping functionality works fine, so it must be something with S11.)

All these issues with reproduced in 2.0.0.5.

(I have not installed today's release build yet.)

Reply #13 from Stardock Forums Top

Setup:
W11 Pro 23H2
1920x1080 (100% scaling) Primary monitor (right)
3840x2160 (100% scaling) Secondary monitor (left)

Enable enhanced taskbar + Start 11 autohide mode (disable windows auto-hide taskbar) - NOT using rounded taskbar

Causes the entire desktop to be unusable except the top left quadrant of the 3840x2160 screen. All icons get shifted there, cannot select/drag anything outside of this quadrant. Becomes basically unusable.

Reply #14 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting dcomo1, reply 12

While I have witnessed the following issues on my primary Windows PC (Version 10.0.22635.2700 - Yes Beta), I have also witnessed these very same issues on my work machine which is running 22631.2506 (Non-beta):  (None of these issues are using the rounded taskbar.)

- Opening the start menu causes the taskbar to flash; however only when there aren't any additional windows on the screen.  (I tried with different menu styles, however it was consistent.)

- Sometimes when closing the start menu (usually after opening/closing in rapid succession), the start menu collapses in front of the taskbar.

- When using the snipping tool, after taking a screenshot, the snipping tool hides, however if you re-run it, it re-opens and the picture that you snipped is in the window.  (I thought this was a Windows bug and ignored it for the last year, however after uninstalling Start 11, I found the snipping functionality works fine, so it must be something with S11.)

All these issues with reproduced in 2.0.0.5.

(I have not installed today's release build yet.)

 

Are you running a nVidia card?  546.01 driver set has a problem with transparency and its been throwing up all kinds of crap.  IF you do have an nVidia card  using the mentioned driver try installing 546.08 Hotfix and see if that makes a different.  

Reply #15 from Stardock Forums Top

Absolutely love it. Venturing a suggestion...add the ability to color groups with gradients. :)

Reply #16 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 15

Absolutely love it. Venturing a suggestion...add the ability to color groups with gradients. :)

You can create a png image and use that as the background.  If you turn off the autotinting the colours will remain as they were in the file.

Reply #17 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 16


Quoting DrJBHL,
reply 15

Absolutely love it. Venturing a suggestion...add the ability to color groups with gradients. :)



You can create a png image and use that as the background.  If you turn off the autotinting the colours will remain as they were in the file.

Wow! I meant a gradient in a tab or a group, not the whole start menu...sorry I didn't specify. If it helps, I was referring to the images here https://forums.wincustomize.com/523617/page/2/#3909237 and making them similar to the wall by adni18. On a separate note, the app is evolving beautifully. :thumbsup:  

 

Reply #18 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 17


Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 16






Quoting DrJBHL,

reply 15


Absolutely love it. Venturing a suggestion...add the ability to color groups with gradients. :)



You can create a png image and use that as the background.  If you turn off the autotinting the colours will remain as they were in the file.



Wow! I meant a gradient in a tab or a group, not the whole start menu...sorry I didn't specify. If it helps, I was referring to the images here https://forums.wincustomize.com/523617/page/2/#3909237 and making them similar to the wall by adni18. On a separate note, the app is evolving beautifully. :thumbsup:  

 

You can set an image on a tab or a group,  It is called background texture under the group appearance menu.

Reply #20 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting eshloraque, reply 19

On a full screen start page, the task bar doesn't remove the rounded edges


A good point as it does fill the screen so it should.  Will get that fixed for a future update.

Reply #21 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 18

You can set an image on a tab or a group, It is called background texture under the group appearance menu.

Thanks, Neil.

Reply #23 from Stardock Forums Top

Hallo,

nachdem ich mir Lizenzen für Start 11 v.2 gekauft habe, würde mich interessieren, bis wann die deutsche Übersetzung komplett ist.
Nach der Installation habe ich festgestellt, daß da noch einiges nur in Englisch ist.
Danke für eine Antwort

Gruß,
Horst



Google Translation :
Hello,
after I bought licenses for Start 11 V.2, I would be interested to see until when the German translation is complete.
After the installation, I found that there is still a lot in English.
Thanks for an answer.

Greetings,
Horst

Reply #24 from Stardock Forums Top

If you do a screenshot (print-key), no full screen windows, the margin of the rounded task bar decreases. If you don't do the screenshot, but press ESC or close instead, the taskbar goes to no rounded corners. After moving the mouse a little bit, it goes back to rounded corners.