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Groupy 2.1 Release Feedback Thread

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Groupy 2.1 Release Feedback Thread

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With the Groupy 2.1 release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the product

Object Desktop members can get the release from within Object Desktop Manager 

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

For guest check-out purchase (no account), from this link: http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Groupy a better product.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

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Reply #26 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting chris535, reply 25

I am having some issues with the 2.1 update [I have done an uninstall, reboot and reinstall which has not fixed it]

I have set Groupy 2 to Integrate the Tabs. When starting some apps (like PowerPoint) which loads maximized, Groupy 2 is overlapping the window as shown and I have to restore window and then maximize for it to display correctly.


Which version of Windows are you using and do you have Groupy set to autohide tabs in any state?

Reply #27 from Stardock Forums Top

If Groupy 2 is active and ActualTools Window Manager has enabled any titlebar buttons, (most) application windows cannot be restored after maximizing, but will stay maximized.

Exact Windows version: Windows 10 22H2 19045.3208 x64

Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen:
- ActualTools Window Manager should display at least one additional titlebar button (it does by default)
- Groupy 2: my configuration is to show always the Groupy bar, on top of the window
- Start Windows calculater
- Click the maximize titlebar button
- The window will be maximized
- Click the button again to restore the old window size
- The window will stay maximized

In general it seems to work with windows, where tabs are always shown: It’s working as expected in Explorer, while TaskManager is also affected by the problem

Specific apps that the app does not work (well) with:
ActualTools Window Manager 8.15 http://www.actualtools.com/windowmanager

 

It would be nice, if I could have the best of two worlds :)

Multiplicity - Control multiple PCs using one keyboard and mouse
Reply #28 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Big--Mike, reply 27

ActualTools Window Manager

And if that is not enabled, everything is fine, yes?

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #29 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 26

Which version of Windows are you using and do you have Groupy set to autohide tabs in any state?

Windows 10 [10.0.19045.3208]

Tabs set to always visible...

Reply #30 from Stardock Forums Top

Yes, if I disable ActualTools Window Manager or if I remove all custom titlebar buttons, restoring the window size is working as expected.

Reply #31 from Stardock Forums Top

Windows 11 Version 2382 (0S Build 22631.2129)

the problem is overlapping and hepped with PDF-XChange Editor app.

 

 

Reply #32 from Stardock Forums Top

All,

Groupy 2.11 was released to beta today:

https://forums.stardock.com/521947/groupy-211-beta-feedback-thread

As always, thank you very much for your time, feedback, and support.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #33 from Stardock Forums Top

Is there any chance, you provide a direct download link to the beta executable? 
As there were some changes to the behavior of windows, I'd like to test, if my problem with ActualTools Window Manager is solved

Reply #35 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Big--Mike, reply 33

Is there any chance, you provide a direct download link to the beta executable? 
As there were some changes to the behavior of windows, I'd like to test, if my problem with ActualTools Window Manager is solved

If you purchase, Mike, and it does not meet your needs, it can be refunded in the 30 day window.

As for your issue, this MAY address it but we cannot promise anything for 3rd party app conflicts:

  • Resolved issue with window positioning, when opened, maximized on some applications

Do let us know when you do.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #36 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting sdRohan, reply 35


Quoting Big--Mike,
reply 33

Is there any chance, you provide a direct download link to the beta executable? 
As there were some changes to the behavior of windows, I'd like to test, if my problem with ActualTools Window Manager is solved



If you purchase, Mike, and it does not meet your needs, it can be refunded in the 30 day window.

As for your issue, this MAY address it but we cannot promise anything for 3rd party app conflicts:


    • Resolved issue with window positioning, when opened, maximized on some applications


Do let us know when you do.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Scratch all that, Mike.  For your help with Groupy 2 translations, I have renewed \ extended your old OD sub through 05/12/2024.

Thank you for that, again, Mike.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #37 from Stardock Forums Top

 

  • Windows Version 22H2 22621.2134

  • Groupy Version 2.11

 

  • I have noticed windows are shrinking in size by themselves.  Only when the window is maximized, the size of the windows periodically shrinks by itself as your cursor moves off the window to the groupy tab area and back onto the app. It only seems to do it on the right side and the bottom, leaving the top and left size docked to the sides of the screen. 

Affected: all programs.

 

Edit: Video Attached.  https://we.tl/t-VMCc2ojE6X

 

 

Reply #39 from Stardock Forums Top

All, 

The Groupy 2.11 Beta has been updated:

https://forums.stardock.com/521947/get;3899321

As always, thank you for your time, feedback, and support.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #40 from Stardock Forums Top

I'm using Groupy release version 2.1 and have a Startup group for Outlook 365 (64 bit) and NEO Pro (64.bit - an Outlook add-in from www.caelo.com). Closing groups → "When tabs are integrated into the title bar the close button should close the entire group" is active. Using the Startup shortcut, the two programs launch together and exit together. However, they don't minimize or restore together.

As a group:

  • If I minimize while NEO is active, NEO minimizes and Outlook remains present. If I then minimize and restore Outlook, only Outlook restores, and NEO remains minimized. If I restore NEO, the two programs restore and are grouped again.
  • If I minimize while Outlook is active, the group remains present (as if I hadn't minimized Outlook).

Thanks.

Reply #41 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Big--Mike, reply 27

If Groupy 2 is active and ActualTools Window Manager has enabled any titlebar buttons, (most) application windows cannot be restored after maximizing, but will stay maximized.

Exact Windows version: Windows 10 22H2 19045.3208 x64

Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen:
- ActualTools Window Manager should display at least one additional titlebar button (it does by default)
- Groupy 2: my configuration is to show always the Groupy bar, on top of the window
- Start Windows calculater
- Click the maximize titlebar button
- The window will be maximized
- Click the button again to restore the old window size
- The window will stay maximized

In general it seems to work with windows, where tabs are always shown: It’s working as expected in Explorer, while TaskManager is also affected by the problem

Specific apps that the app does not work (well) with:
ActualTools Window Manager 8.15 http://www.actualtools.com/windowmanager

 

It would be nice, if I could have the best of two worlds :)

The problem is fixed with the latest beta of Groupy 2, thank you very much. 

Reply #42 from Stardock Forums Top

All, 

The Groupy 2.11 beta has been updated. 

https://forums.stardock.com/521947/get;3899321

As always, thank you for your time, feedback, and support.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #43 from Stardock Forums Top

All, 

The Groupy 2.11 beta has been updated. 

https://forums.stardock.com/521947/get;3899321

As always, thank you for your time, feedback, and support.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #44 from Stardock Forums Top

Hello.

Periodically Groupy2 crashes and tabs disappear (return once Explorer is closed)

I'm on Steam so I can't try it, but is this bug fixed in the beta version?

 

Screen with missing tabs

Normal screen

 

Windows 11 22H2 (Build 22621.2134)
Groupy version: 2.1

 

Reply #45 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting kako-xx, reply 44

Hello.

Periodically Groupy2 crashes and tabs disappear (return once Explorer is closed)

I'm on Steam so I can't try it, but is this bug fixed in the beta version?

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Please try this, uninstall Groupy, reboot immediately after (important), redownload the latest version, install that version, reboot again after installation done. Retest and report back.

Thanks
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

Reply #46 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting kako-xx, reply 44

Periodically Groupy2 crashes and tabs disappear (return once Explorer is closed)

I'm on Steam so I can't try it, but is this bug fixed in the beta version?

The beta is available on Steam:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2296360/discussions/0/3810660545998698383/

If you still have issues, we would like to as you to quantify 'periodically'.  Any actual crashes of an app, we would need dumps if at all possible.  This page documents how to collect them for Start11 but the process would be the same for Groupy.

https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1347321935/Manually+Collecting+Start+Crash+Dumps

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #47 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting basj, reply 45


Quoting kako-xx,
reply 44

Hello.

Periodically Groupy2 crashes and tabs disappear (return once Explorer is closed)

I'm on Steam so I can't try it, but is this bug fixed in the beta version?



Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Please try this, uninstall Groupy, reboot immediately after (important), redownload the latest version, install that version, reboot again after installation done. Retest and report back.

Thanks
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

I followed the instructions and tried installing again, but it didn't make any difference.

Reply #48 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting sdRohan, reply 46


Quoting kako-xx,
reply 44

Periodically Groupy2 crashes and tabs disappear (return once Explorer is closed)

I'm on Steam so I can't try it, but is this bug fixed in the beta version?



The beta is available on Steam:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2296360/discussions/0/3810660545998698383/

If you still have issues, we would like to as you to quantify 'periodically'.  Any actual crashes of an app, we would need dumps if at all possible.  This page documents how to collect them for Start11 but the process would be the same for Groupy.

https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1347321935/Manually+Collecting+Start+Crash+Dumps

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Thanks, I didn't know Steam had a Beta channel. I will try this and see how it goes for a while.
If I run into any problems, I'll try to get a dump.

Reply #49 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting kako-xx, reply 48

Thanks, I didn't know Steam had a Beta channel. I will try this and see how it goes for a while.
If I run into any problems, I'll try to get a dump.

Excellent and thank you.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #50 from Stardock Forums Top

All,

The Groupy 2.11 Beta has been updated:

https://forums.stardock.com/521947/get;3899321

Also take note of the updated 'Known Issues'

https://forums.stardock.com/521947/get;3899321

As always, thank you for your time and feedback.